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Arsalan123 said:
Peace is not weakness and will never be.obviously there is a concept in India under bjp that it can defeat pakistan.you want war at all costs and members here basically said the same thing.it is useless now to talk about peace.you only want war.
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Pakistan has still not forgotten about balakot airstrikes and shot down of its f-16. Recent episode of ISPR showcasing IAF bombing kartarpur sahib in 1971 gives the underlying frustration and contempt for IAF. Your armed forces opened a museum with mannequin of abhinandan. They are livid on audacity of IAF to strike deep inside Pakistan and then 1 pilot in mig21 had courage to cross LoC alone against BARCAP of f-16s.

PAF and DG ISPR actions feels like they want to rub reputation of IAF into ground, since 27 Feb. This is classic human reaction to feel threatened and insulted by lower being when Pakistan has been fed upon songs and praises of PAF since eternity.

So don't preach peace here when your armed forces are clearly showing signs they aren't over Feb events and want one more round. Only a loss of face has pulled you back till now.
 
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Cole_phelps said:
Pakistan has still not forgotten about balakot airstrikes and shot down of its f-16. Recent episode of ISPR showcasing IAF bombing kartarpur sahib in 1971 gives the underlying frustration and contempt for IAF. Your armed forces opened a museum with mannequin of abhinandan. They are livid on audacity of IAF to strike deep inside Pakistan and then 1 pilot in mig21 had courage to cross LoC alone against BARCAP of f-16s.

PAF and DG ISPR actions feels like they want to rub reputation of IAF into ground, since 27 Feb. This is classic human reaction to feel threatened and insulted by lower being when Pakistan has been fed upon songs and praises of PAF since eternity.

So don't preach peace here when your armed forces are clearly showing signs they aren't over Feb events and want one more round. Only a loss of face has pulled you back till now.
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And why shouldn't they?
Just like Indians are fighting for their land so is Pakistanis. Indians see oppurtunity to inflict damage to Pakistan any ways, Pakistanis do the same. It's a thousand years war and it's not going to end with Balakot.
 
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Cole_phelps said:
Pakistan has still not forgotten about balakot airstrikes and shot down of its f-16. Recent episode of ISPR showcasing IAF bombing kartarpur sahib in 1971 gives the underlying frustration and contempt for IAF. Your armed forces opened a museum with mannequin of abhinandan. They are livid on audacity of IAF to strike deep inside Pakistan and then 1 pilot in mig21 had courage to cross LoC alone against BARCAP of f-16s.

PAF and DG ISPR actions feels like they want to rub reputation of IAF into ground, since 27 Feb. This is classic human reaction to feel threatened and insulted by lower being when Pakistan has been fed upon songs and praises of PAF since eternity.

So don't preach peace here when your armed forces are clearly showing signs they aren't over Feb events and want one more round. Only a loss of face has pulled you back till now.
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We have come to pray, won’t tolerate any political propaganda: Sikh pilgrims in Kartarpur
A bomb that had been put on display in a glass case just next to the gurdwara building became a sore point for devotees. A notice board put up next to it said that the Indian Air Force (IAF) had attempted to bomb the Gurdwara Darbar Sahib in 1971.
Written by Man Aman Singh Chhina |Kartarpur, Lahore |
Published: November 12, 2019 7:48:44 am






The bomb is displayed next to the ‘Khoo Sahib
“We have come here on a pilgrimage and to observe the birth anniversary of the Guru. We have no desire for any propaganda, nor will we tolerate any,” says Prithi Singh, who has come from Canada to Pakistan for the 550th birth anniversary celebrations of Guru Nanak.

Such sentiments were echoed by numerous Sikh pilgrims who came from across the globe to witness the historic celebrations in Kartarpur. While many praised Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan and former Punjab minister Navjot Singh Sidhu, whom they credited for the opening of the Kartarpur Corridor, they were all unequivocal in their sentiments that there should not be any “dirty politics” in the Guru’s name.


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“It will be disappointing if the Pakistan government or any of its agencies use the corridor to foster trouble in Punjab. The Sikh community is giving them fulsome praise for their opening of the border but no Khalistani propaganda will be tolerated. I have not seen any such activity till now either in Nankana Sahib nor in Kartarpur,” said Manjeet Singh from Ludhiana.
We have come to pray, won’t tolerate any political propaganda: Sikh pilgrims in Kartarpur

@arsalan @safriz looks like Pakistan got a tight slap and reply from Sikhs....☺☺
You people tried it on Sikh soldiers not to fight against Pakistan but got bullets from them and now got this reply from Sikhs. Want to still try?....😏😏
 
lcafanboy said:
We have come to pray, won’t tolerate any political propaganda: Sikh pilgrims in Kartarpur
A bomb that had been put on display in a glass case just next to the gurdwara building became a sore point for devotees. A notice board put up next to it said that the Indian Air Force (IAF) had attempted to bomb the Gurdwara Darbar Sahib in 1971.
Written by Man Aman Singh Chhina |Kartarpur, Lahore |
Published: November 12, 2019 7:48:44 am






The bomb is displayed next to the ‘Khoo Sahib
“We have come here on a pilgrimage and to observe the birth anniversary of the Guru. We have no desire for any propaganda, nor will we tolerate any,” says Prithi Singh, who has come from Canada to Pakistan for the 550th birth anniversary celebrations of Guru Nanak.

Such sentiments were echoed by numerous Sikh pilgrims who came from across the globe to witness the historic celebrations in Kartarpur. While many praised Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan and former Punjab minister Navjot Singh Sidhu, whom they credited for the opening of the Kartarpur Corridor, they were all unequivocal in their sentiments that there should not be any “dirty politics” in the Guru’s name.


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“It will be disappointing if the Pakistan government or any of its agencies use the corridor to foster trouble in Punjab. The Sikh community is giving them fulsome praise for their opening of the border but no Khalistani propaganda will be tolerated. I have not seen any such activity till now either in Nankana Sahib nor in Kartarpur,” said Manjeet Singh from Ludhiana.
We have come to pray, won’t tolerate any political propaganda: Sikh pilgrims in Kartarpur

@arsalan @safriz looks like Pakistan got a tight slap and reply from Sikhs....☺☺
You people tried it on Sikh soldiers not to fight against Pakistan but got bullets from them and now got this reply from Sikhs. Want to still try?....😏😏
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It’s cute how Pakistan feels charging INR 1400 per head to worship at one of their holiest site will endear them to the Sikhs.
Already there is resentment on this item. Not everyone has rhe means to shell out 5-6000 plus other expenses for a family visit.

They could have gotten some goodwill but their greed takes precedence over logic.
 
Pakistan is trying to earn foreign exchange at India expense, to undertake activities against India.
$20 per person, average expected 5000/day regular pilgrims across corridor = $100,000 a day, a $1mil every 10days

Its about time, we too start charging Pakistan pilgrims $20 till Pakistan revokes, I know many visit Ajmer and another holy places in India on regular basis. This can be made part of Pilgrim Visa from tourists from Pakistan..
Also can introduce $50 per medical tourist visa applicants from Pakistan.. It still be cheaper for them to get medical treatment here, after that Tax ..

$20 is nothing but a Jizya It needs to be responded in kind
 
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screambowl said:
we can never manage 1.3 billion with current system. It's illogical.
just let them do whatever they want and that's the only system.

yes if India had more resoures and more export trade then something can be changed. And that's only possible if you make yourself felt present in the world among PUBLIC NOT GOVERNMENTS of different countries.
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Even if we manage 5% of the population say 50 million in an efficient manner we will have better results like a gold medal in olympics. Countries like israel or european countries which are far more smaller make better products than what India does.
 
jetray said:
Even if we manage 5% of the population say 50 million in an efficient manner we will have better results like a gold medal in olympics. Countries like israel or european countries which are far more smaller make better products than what India does.
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That will never happens due to UPSC and government is selecting trash! And when same people handle security issues Mumbai 26/11, Kargil, and Pulwama happens.

Bharat sarkar mein bina approach se ek kaam nahi hota. 70% paisa khany k liye baithe hue hai. MEA, HRD, Health, Defence, Development authorities, all are big corrupts. There is no need to fight against Pakistan majority of govt babus are not less than Pakistanis.
 
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Jaymax said:
Meanwhile in Pakistan

They sure dream big :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1194994726644191238
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Pakistan and its minister keep giving Jahil Solutions to its Jahil awam, how much incompetent and how much topi can population take - just like Pak Agriculture minister, who when faced with a locust problem said
just like donkey meat, they are considering locust as meat substitute.
What great electoral promise, "the breakfast is flying towards you, go eat it" after grass ofcource.
 
Jaymax said:
Meanwhile in Pakistan

They sure dream big :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1194994726644191238
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They want to win fight in Kashmir.. Without internet how can they? 😂
They can only hide their losses which already they are doing but winning needs internet.

Don't worry India will provide free Jio Sim once we have physical jurisdiction. Kashmiri s can rejoice basic human right of Internet very soon.

After grass, locusts, internet & Twitter to be made basic human need in Pakistan.
 
Arsalan123 said:
Too much overconfidence.it is clear that almost all members here wants war and no peace.

Wrong assumption.everyone here wants a final solution.we wanted it since independence.
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It's not how you put it. See basically Pakistan is saying give us something from the part of Kashmir you have, there is nothing in return you can offer. Our stand is we are unwilling to compromise. In response you field jihadis train them and openly encourage training, recruitment, and financing to them. Now, all we are saying is if you send terrorists we will act proactively and we will not limit our actions to just terrorists but people supporting them. Where do you see warmongering in it?
 
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Arsalan123 said:
Peace is not weakness and will never be.obviously there is a concept in India under bjp that it can defeat pakistan.you want war at all costs and members here basically said the same thing.it is useless now to talk about peace.you only want war.
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Peace is not weakness agreed, we practiced it for over few decades, but reality it you speak about peace but your actions do not follow that, just look at recent FATF report, you are basically doing nothing against terrorist.
 
screambowl said:
And why shouldn't they?
Just like Indians are fighting for their land so is Pakistanis. Indians see oppurtunity to inflict damage to Pakistan any ways, Pakistanis do the same. It's a thousand years war and it's not going to end with Balakot.
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Which land belongs to Riasat-e-Pudina that they are claiming their rights on?

Yes it helps us if Pakistan believes it is fighting for its land and rights. Just like "The Monkey trap". But i believe they have given up on Kashmir, at least some have even in deep state.

Yes we are eyeing Pakistan's territory including Kartarpur and we believe it can be done.

Pakistan is cultivating its oversees citizens and lobbying in order to counter-balance growing Indian might. Protests and pity, that's Pakistan's plan and it's not called fighting.
 
India conducts night test fire of Ballistic missile Agni-II from Abdul Kalm Island off Odisha coast – Indian Defence Research Wing
 
Mod Note- NEVER POST DIRECT LINKS TO FILE FROM PAKISTANI SITES.
First get it scanned on virus total and then download yourself, get the content and paste that. Never the direct link.

This Discussion shows that While Pakistan Has managed to Absorb the Human and Material losses and also the Affront to Its Honour and Dignity by Indian aggression
BUT the Cost of a Prolonged Tense Situation with Red Alerts and CAPS
And constant state of Operational Readiness will HURT them a lot
 
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