Even rudram 2 with lower range is hypersonic. In current scenario of dense AD, hypersonic speed is not an overkill.
Nope, that's just terminal phase, Very short time.
There were so many missiles that do this in cold war times. Nothing special.
Here is north korean:
Indrani is saying it's developed from K-15 not that's it's pralay is without booster. Ofcourse it is, it's a missile with similar characteristics. Thus taking stuff from already proven missile is the way to go.
All air to air missiles will be derived from Astra. But you cannot say SFDR is Astra with new propulsion. Its a new missile that is designed for different requirements.
R2 is air launched at high altitude & all we got is peak speed in a poster. A ground launch canisterised missile would be different to its predecessor if it sheds an important part like the first stage booster. Even with range factor, I can not see Pralay keeping Shaurya profile.
Is R2 hypersonic ? That's quite a revelation. Why do we have Brahmos then since mission profile matches ?
You guys are simply over analysing a simple issue. Pralay in depressed trajectory is still bound to have the characteristics of a BM , hence it's flight pattern which is a function of it's mission profile has been described as quasi ballistic which by it's very definition will be hypersonic either throughout it's flight or in it's mid to terminal phase .
The only unique feature is it's manoeuvrability like ATACMS. Nobody seems to be discussing that .
All of it because they showed peak speed being 5.5M which is probably like for small duration, and terminal speed was not revealed, just shown as supersonic. R2 got both arm & ground attack role with different seekers so nature of the enemy structure to destroy & reach of it will be via jets only, angle of attack will be different for each role. Brahmos is way more heavy so use will probably depend on target profile and can be ground launched as well.
Yeah that is because I have not seen its flight path shown clearly like R2, but I am guessing they will use good maneuvering trajectory & keep BM characteristics.
Debate started due to no clear info on whether its propulsion is hypersonic itself like Shaurya, because if it is it will almost certainly need the large booster to go up first. Since it does not have that, it can still keep Shaurya like maneuver ability flight path at lesser speed to evade AD but will need to do 80 deg angle of attack/top attack to be fully effective like gravity induced BM.
A true quasi ballistic trajectory I think allows for both top attack, as well as 40-45deg attack, in the latter case terminal speed will be slightly lower. You need maneuver ability when your speed is not too much subsonic supersonic below 1.8-2.5 mach, if you got hypersonic speed you are reaching your target way before enemy ad can react.
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Yes, both are similar not same. Even the elimination of booster first stage would affect speed/altitude/range etc.
However the width of K-15/Shaurya and Pralay is the same at 0.74m. So they are very very similar if not the same. Indranil and India Today article both explicitly alluded this fact too.
Oh they use the same dia rocket motor that is why. DRDO Veda also uses the 2 meter dia motor (Daisy II ?) like the Agni but likely different application.
Read the tweet by Indranil. He explicitly said that Pralay is developed from Shaurya by removing the first stage(for lesser range/lower cost etc.). This tweet clears it all:
(NOTE: I disagree with him here as both Pralay and Shaurya are two stage missiles. I think difference is only the booster and its omission in Pralay like I previously said).
Rest all are independent missiles which serve different purposes. But to defeat Chinese PLA formations we need Pralay and to destroy their military and other non-military critical infra we need Shaurya(with conventional warhead). Both are absolutely essential in huge numbers to defeat the Chinese.
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I do not doubt that part, this is how same airframe can serve multi purpose development & spring into variants. I am just not sure its flight characteristics remains the same & unaffected. Not just range/speed that would be affected. Same terminal guidance can be used, but mission profile would dictate a slower paced tactical missile is created to serve quick deployment. Enemy formations/troop housing can be time critical targets where Pralay can do great job.
Pralay replaced solid fuel Prithvi -3 because IA was not happy with its slow burn rate. Pralay has high energy solid propellant which makes it much faster than conventional solid fuel missiles.
The best explanation of Pralay was done way back in 2018 by our respected Prasun Da. Let me quote him to explain what is Pralay and why it's important for us plus how IA intends to use it:
Link: From Prithvi To Pralay
Conclusion: Pralay= Game-Changer.
Whole threads in timeline all are good. I hope people would no longer be sad about no atgm any more 
Shaurya is with SFC . We desperately need a 750 kms , 1000 kms , 1500 kms 2000 kms & 2500 kms conventional BM . Why aren't we going in for it inspite of having it in our inventory is beyond me.
While the 2000 & 2500 kms would possibly suffice in a few hundreds ( say 250 each ) the others are required in numbers of at least 1000 -1500 per item at the very minimum .
The 2000 & 2500 kms conventional BM would be purely for deterrence to signal to China that if they target the mainland we have the wherewithal to retaliate , whereas the others would definitely have a huge part to play in our abilities to waging war .
It could be that they have specific nuke delivery role penciled in for it? I mean in the event of such a situation, you will need something that the enemy will have no or little idea about to engage and shoot it down aka you will be firing something with 100% probability of successful strike. We do not have any imported weapon system that can do this role yet, unless we buy nuke delivery capable french air launched missile with Rafale.
I’m not sure about the utilities of 750-2500 km BMs. Are there any valuable targets in that range?
Check out for how far Chengdu is for a start from say Assam or AP or even Lanzhou or say Kashgar & Urumqi are from Leh . Why these places in China? Coz they're vital air bases of the WTC of Chinese Theatre Commands.
The reason being all our front line or even main bases are within 4-500 kms of the LAC in many cases. Whereas the same is located in the hinterland as far as China is concerned & they'd definitely be targeting our bases in a war.
We need missiles upto 1500 kms in numbers for actual use. Beyond that upto 2500 kms would be needed to signal deterrence . But I fear we're going to do nothing of the sort. They're already operating with a defensive mindset convinced that building up infrastructure on the LAC & bringing in forces en masse would be deterrence enough. They've not or refuse to consider what happens if the Chinese aren't deterred.
Those of you followed the previous programs, what is RTRS rocket motors & where is it used? it does mention P-AD in the designation.
Something like this:
To study interception of high velocity( read supersonic) aerial targets on ground via a high speed rail track. Looks like we've this facility too. Nice
Yeah I knew TBRL has rail sledge but do not know why it is used. Attached sow , 35 being made, 2 for testing so batches of 11 will be supplied.Something like this:
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To study interception of high velocity( read supersonic) aerial targets on ground via a high speed rail track. Looks like we've this facility too. Nice