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vstol Jockey said:
Please trust my words, firstly, Pakistan has no nukes deliverable by missiles, secondly there is no pen in Pakistan which can be used to sign the death warrant of 22 crore Pakistanis and finally there is no finger which will push the launch button. I have been proven right after we did Balakot.

All Pak Generals get huge amount of land after retirement in Punjab. Do you think they will let it become dry by fighting with India? What about their own existance and future? Long back I had written here that the best way to dismember Pakistan is to send in our IBGs into Pak Punjab and dismember them with strike Corps in Sindh. CSD is a very dangerous tactices. PA will be forced to commit its reserves very early which will not be able to shift their positions. If the reserves and strike Corps are committed in the begining of the war, they become easy meet in their build up areas. Taking out bridges and other obstacle clearances can confine them to a very small area to be taken out by arty & air power. Pak has nearly no Railways, they have no fuel and they have no heavy transporters. They had build up there narrative that India will forever live in the fear of their nukes. Modi has demolished that narrative. he has challenged them to come and fight within nuke umbralla and not at sub prime level. This is new India. Jo ghar main ghuss kar Marega.
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There are several reasons why Pakee nuke threats are BS.

1) We can carry out an invasion during a certain time of the year w/ certain wind patterns to defeat nuclear fallout.
2) We can choose to attack along their rivers, they won't dare nuke that
3) Our troops/formations can hug theirs (and it anyhow won't take long for us to cut the distance - to the point where nukes become impossible/pointless)
4) They would never risk fallout/impact on Punjab
5) India & friends are always tracking nukes and would likely unleash massive pre-emptive strikes to take care of most of them ahead of time
6) I've also heard doubts about Pakistan's ability to effectively miniaturize nukes for tipping missiles, and their devices are apparently not well tested either
 
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RATHORE said:
There are several reasons why Pakee nuke threats are BS.

1) We can carry out an invasion during a certain time of the year w/ certain wind patterns to defeat nuclear fallout.
2) We can choose to attack along their rivers, they won't dare nuke that
3) Our troops/formations can hug theirs (and it anyhow won't take long for us to cut the distance - to the point where nukes become impossible/pointless)
4) They would never risk fallout/impact on Punjab
5) India & friends are always tracking nukes and would likely unleash massive pre-emptive strikes to take care of most of them ahead of time
6) I've also heard doubts about Pakistan's ability to effectively miniaturize nukes for tipping missiles, and their devices are apparently not well tested either
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In next five months, we are going to shoot up five more satellites in orbit for military purposes. These will be in addition to over 15 we already have. China and Pakistan must realise that after ASAT test, Chinese shifting their satellites to help Pakistan will not be an option. WE WILL SHOOT DOWN EVERY SATELLITE WHICH WORKS AGAINST US, EVEN IF IT IS FROM CHINA. Its written very clearly in steel.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
WE WILL SHOOT DOWN EVERY SATELLITE WHICH WORKS AGAINST US, EVEN IF IT IS FROM CHINA. Its written very clearly in steel.
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I doubt that's the purpose sir, unless left with no other option India is not going to strike Chinese satellites as China is also capable of destroying ours.

The move is aimed more as deterrence that Chinese don't get any funny ideas and start shooting our satellites as we didn't have capability to strike back. They will help Pakistan and there is nothing much we can do about it.

These satellites passes every 2 hour or so over any area under coverage and we can safely assume they capture images everytime they pass over. How will we know these images are shared with Pakistan or not? We can't prove or conclusively to even threaten China. ASAT is life insurance policy not death warrant though can be used as one in desperate times.
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
I doubt that's the purpose sir, unless left with no other option India is not going to strike Chinese satellites as China is also capable of destroying ours.

The move is aimed more as deterrence that Chinese don't get any funny ideas and start shooting our satellites as we didn't have capability to strike back. They will help Pakistan and there is nothing much we can do about it.

These satellites passes every 2 hour or so over any area under coverage and we can safely assume they capture images everytime they pass over. How will we know these images are shared with Pakistan or not? We can't prove or conclusively to even threaten China. ASAT is life insurance policy not death warrant though can be used as one in desperate times.
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I wish to draw your kind attention to what is calle "Hostile Act". Chinese will be very scared of doing it next time. You don't have to act, marely an act of sending a message does the job.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
The pleading before EC to count VVPAT first and later do counting of EVMs was a ploy to gain time to stich up an alliance for UPA-3 by selling India. Luckily, EC refused it. This shows how badly UPA are far from the mood of the nation and how the Lutyens Mafia has lost relevence.
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I cant believe the cadres of congress let their high command contemplate to that level. I was under the impression their minions are mere stupid opportunists without much foresight. I've a member in my extended family who is actually a prominent person in rank in Kerala Congress. What should I think of these people. It is not noble to wish ill for your own family, but I don't know anymore...

I hope Modi does not spare their High Command atleast.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
The pleading before EC to count VVPAT first and later do counting of EVMs was a ploy to gain time to stich up an alliance for UPA-3 by selling India. Luckily, EC refused it. This shows how badly UPA are far from the mood of the nation and how the Lutyens Mafia has lost relevence.
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EC itself is a sellout. Who are they going to stop India being sold to?
 
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Hi guys, I loosely followed the political in India these past few weeks (but was traveling a lot so not really). I was under the impressions that Modi would return with heavy opposition instead of the clean sweep that is being reported.

My question to voters in India:
Why did the opposition fail so badly, and what do you think they should do going forward?

For Everyone:
What specific policies do you think this new LS should push through? What is the absolute 'do or die' agenda for this administration?
 
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Ginvincible said:
Hi guys, I loosely followed the political in India these past few weeks (but was traveling a lot so not really). I was under the impressions that Modi would return with heavy opposition instead of the clean sweep that is being reported.

My question to voters in India:
Why did the opposition fail so badly, and what do you think they should do going forward?

For Everyone:
What specific policies do you think this new LS should push through? What is the absolute 'do or die' agenda for this administration?
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Make every Indian live with dignity.
 
Ginvincible said:
Hi guys, I loosely followed the political in India these past few weeks (but was traveling a lot so not really). I was under the impressions that Modi would return with heavy opposition instead of the clean sweep that is being reported.

My question to voters in India:
Why did the opposition fail so badly, and what do you think they should do going forward?

For Everyone:
What specific policies do you think this new LS should push through? What is the absolute 'do or die' agenda for this administration?
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Even I expected some anti-incumbency voting and a coalition govt.
What opposition ? congress should stop calling themselves as main opposition party, if not for the alliance with regional parties congress would not have got more than 40.
 
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Shameless drama is being played out in karnataka. JD(S) won a single seat in Hassan by grandson of deve gowda. Now the smart guy wants to vacate the seat in favor of his grand father.
 
Ginvincible said:
Hi guys, I loosely followed the political in India these past few weeks (but was traveling a lot so not really). I was under the impressions that Modi would return with heavy opposition instead of the clean sweep that is being reported.

My question to voters in India:
Why did the opposition fail so badly, and what do you think they should do going forward?

For Everyone:
What specific policies do you think this new LS should push through? What is the absolute 'do or die' agenda for this administration?
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The main opposition party is basically ruled by a family. The prime minister candidate of Main Opposition party comes from a family that had prime ministers in the last 3 generations (Great grandfather = 1st prime minister, Grandmother =prime minister, Dad =prime minister, Mom,= president of party for more than 2 decades.)

In order to have complete control over the party, they made sure that many prominent peoples won't get to the top of the leadership and those who do is basically supporters of the family. Together with that, massive corruption in their last government. Peoples now feel much contempt for the party. Only option for congress to come back is to get rid of the family dynasty and bring some other leaders.
 
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Bad thing about present political situation is that there not even a distant leader for opposition they can pin their hopes on.

While BJP has plenty of leaders that came from ground, clean and uncompromising, strong some even sharp, Congress if full of sycophants, dynasts and dim young leaders. Not just congress there is no other party that can produce a single leader, all of them infested with sycophants, corrupt and dynasts.

Some spectacular failures were Kejriwal and Akhilesh. Nitish Kumar and Jay Panda already in BJP camp. Mamta Baghdidi is at another level, even in South there is nobody that can be hope for opposition. The best they came out with was Kanhaiya, Jignesh and Hardik who exposed themselves as some petty trolls.

Any other leader I am missing, that can carry India forward or create healthy competition for India?
 
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