Its a free country, so feel free to criticize him. Only expect others to criticize you too and don't whine about it.
I am frankly not interested in your personal opinion about Modi or anyone for that matter. I am amazed that you think, anyone would be interested.
We want a civil, rational debate. That has never been the case here. There has been little constructive criticism of Modi, if any, mainly just attacks. We have been routinely attacked as Sanghis and characterized as saffron bigots frothing at the mouth, sort of the way you just did. From the very beginning there was a troll, Guy Next Door, who has somehow escaped a permanent ban over 2 separate forums in spite of nonstop trolling. Then there was his defender, bonobashi, who would enable him and provide him cover while condescending to other users and claiming the moral high ground about how he wanted a clean, civil blog etc etc. And now there's Doc, who is frankly a totally changed man after his stay at the Green Place, and has practically flipped 180 degrees since I last met him.
@Superkaif The problem is criticism is hardly accepted from other "loyalists". Even @vsdoc claim himself as congress "loyalist", BJP walas are neither hard to find.
Loyalist don't discuss, loyalist serve the political purpose. No healthy debates can happen between bakhts, loyalists and commies.
Political orientation is fine, but behaving like their advocate seldom helps.
You could have said that if there was any 'criticism' when instead there has been nothing but 'venom and personal jibes and attacks' at Hindus from the usual suspects. A truly neutral observer would surely see that. A lot of people here have disagreed with Modi (including myself) and calmly explained their PoV but those sh**bags haven't ever attempted any such thing. There is no reason to not pay them back in the same coin.
Sure, because there are no inherent differences between Islam and Hinduism, or a completely artificial state like Pakistan vs. a historical entity like India right?
Tell me, how many countries that started where India did, became even remotely functional democracies? Why are they unable to introduce democracy to the Middle East, to this day? Does it strike you that maybe, just maybe, in spite of your gross mischaracterizations and unfair taunts, there's something inherently peaceful, tolerant and democratic about Hinduism?
Maybe that's why we never persecuted Jews like the rest of the world, maybe that's why we sheltered Muslims and Christians (including having one of the world's oldest mosques), or took in Parsis. Maybe that's why in spite of spending most of our history fighting one wave of invaders or the other, we never became like them - only becoming more assertive where it was necessary to maintain survival, and continued to maintain a peaceful, composite land for all?
The simple truth is, for too long Hindus have lived as if they were a minority in India, constantly being the whipping boys for Congress's step motherly treatment and having to walk on eggshells. And they've finally woken up to this and become more assertive, and that perhaps is what scares you, maybe because you'd prefer Hindus to live indefinitely with their heads bowed - though I don't know why.
Just remember, while Hindus are in the majority, and remotely assertive in India, everyone other than the Islamists is safe. The day Hindus start rolling over and dying the way you seem to prefer, India will end up just like Persia, and then there will be around a billion of us looking for boats and the nearest refuge.
Sigh.
The dharam khatre mein handbook verbatim.
Heard it in the recent past from a Sindhi senior of mine. I never understood how guys who smoke pot in industrial quantities can go so radical.
The killings have started.
We won't need 70 years. We are much bigger and more diverse.
Cheers, Doc
@RATHORE and others, Stop engaging the trolls, their side lost the elections. so they can only troll here. Do not give oxygen to these trolls, that Mega troll who used to open 10 threads a day here has lost his relevance and oxygen after the admins took action and his trolling strategy was nullified. Do the same with the other trolls, make them ir-relevant.
Translation: Let's have a sanghi echo chamber.
Cheers, Doc
Tell me what part of what I said isn't borne out by history...? Is there anything I claimed or referenced in my comment which isn't rooted in historical fact, or which lacks historical precedent?
But either way, time will prove you wrong. People acted the same way before/during 2014, as if the sky would fall and rapture would occur if/once Modi and BJP came to power; the fear mongering gets very old, very fast.
We're confident in our tradition which goes back thousands and thousands of years - which makes us a unique, inherently peaceful, democratic and secular nation in the entire world; and no amount of your fear mongering or unfair, exaggerated India & Hindu bashing will change that.
Set a bet and a date Doc, you're going to owe me something in the future.
My people and our faith already owe India and the Hindu people a lot.
We shall continue to repay our debt of gratitude by fighting any attempt to mutate the values of this civilization using a template Persians know firsthand only too well.
Too bad if we need to speak up against some deviant Hindus to do just that.
Our loyalty would accept no less.
Cheers, Doc
That's an admirable sense of loyalty, but you've frankly got the wrong target. I hope you realize that in this conflict you're ending up on the same side as Islamists and various other fifth columnists. Think long and hard whether that's the side you wanna be on.
Condition of communist parties is no better than their spokesperson. This gentleman has reduced himself to a laughing stock and does not even realize that!! What an ....
No neo Nazi wannabe psychos running amok with their Uttam santan eugenics and teary eyed peacocks.
In bipolar politics, this is inevitable, but I hope you realize that by sticking to the left, you've got your own groups of loonies and idiots. And that includes the Islamic equivalents of "teary eyed peacock" types. At least the "teary eyed peacock" people love the country and are loyal to the national interest, that's more than can be said about their Islamic equivalents who talk about Jihad and carving out more Pakistans in the future, or various other groups that constitute the leftist rainbow coalition that you are unfortunately a part of.
Nonetheless, the global trends are clear, most of the world is sensible enough and alert enough regarding this unholy alliance of Islamists, leftists and various other groups; and they have resoundingly picked the right wing over that, even if they had to occasionally pinch their noses in the process.
Our Muslims are descended from the same Hindus who gave us place on their land.
It's taken me 10 years to realise where and with what my fight is.
Cheers, Doc
Sure, and if they all knew, accepted and acknowledge that; and behaved accordingly, do you really think there would be any problems? My fight isn't with those who are cognizant and accepting of these facts, and who act accordingly. But there is a delusional mindset prevalent amongst sub-continental Muslims (of which Pakistan is the greatest example and biggest proof) which makes that impossible, and if anything, lays the ground for future carving out of more Pakistans as well once the demographics are conducive.
Even Arnab Goswami is irritated with "Sanghi Trolls" today. Used the term like 20 times in 5 mins.