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vsdoc said:
The pappu thing is a hauvva.

If a Parsi is still not Indian enough after 13 centuries, poor Sonia and her kids don't stand a chance.
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What is this nonsense? Seriously? What huge discrimination have you faced in India for being Parsi that you keep making these bizarre taunts? And FFS, cut the victimhood narrative, Sonia and her kids had their goddamn way with this country and treated it as their bloody personal estate along with their merry band of sycophants.

What is this bullshit imaginary victim complex that you are busy creating?

If anything Modi was the victim and the underdog, do you have any kind of idea about what sort of a wringer he was put through for years regarding 2002 and other incidents from his tenure in Gujarat; all in the hopes of "fixing" him because your poor damsel in distress, victim of Indian racism Sonia and her developmentally challenged child identified him as a threat early on?
 
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Arvind said:
Yes yes, had it been the father to son transfer of throne, I too would have hailed the Yuvraj.

Go and sleep doc. You are projecting a very abhor-able picture of Indian society, which it is not. In fact its opposite to what you have quoted.
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I have to sleep now. But you know what I said is true. Bad as it sounds, that's what happens in many Indian households. And with a resurgent Sangh led Hindutva wave, the foreign vidhwa and her half breed bacche angle is definitely there. Which is sad because Sonia was the obedient Indian bahu while Maneka was the rebel. Sonia wore Indian clothes and always carried herself like a Hindu lady. And has always maintained that she is a Hindu. And even today, when she is dying, she remains in India.

Good night.

Cheers, Doc
 
vsdoc said:
If a Parsi is still not Indian enough after 13 centuries, poor Sonia and her kids don't stand a chance.
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Where was Sonia Gandhi born?
Parsi not an Indian -> red herring argument.

Sonia was not born an Indian, Rajiv Gandhi is Indian.
Rahul Gandhi decides to spend his holidays outside India and his family (nani) is outside India where he went to play holi during the time of election results.
 
vsdoc said:
I have to sleep now. But you know what I said is true. Bad as it sounds, that's what happens in many Indian households. And with a resurgent Sangh led Hindutva wave, the foreign vidhwa and her half breed bacche angle is definitely there. Which is sad because Sonia was the obedient Indian bahu while Maneka was the rebel. Sonia wore Indian clothes and always carried herself like a Hindu lady. And has always maintained that she is a Hindu.

Good night.

Cheers, Doc
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And then you say you're not a Gandhi Parivaar loyalist. FFS. This shit is painful to read, it's like it's coming straight from Aiyar, Tharoor, Ramesh, Diggy or Chidambaram.
 
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vsdoc said:
Sonia was the obedient Indian bahu while Maneka was the rebel. Sonia wore Indian clothes and always carried herself like a Hindu lady. And has always maintained that she is a Hindu.
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She was born and raised a Catholic in Italy. Can you show me proof that there was any conversion involved?
wearing Indian clothes doesnt make someone Indian, else Justin Trudeu can also be the next PM candidate.
she carries herself like a Hindu Lady -> what exactly is a "hindu lady" and what has that got to do with Rahul Gandhi being the PM?

Rahul Gandhi has seldom carried himself as a eminent politician. his oratory skills are subject is constant mockery and provides comic material. he has been in public life for well over a decade and hasnt been able to come up with one cohrerent policy in either interviews or rehearsed speeches.

Tharoor has been very articulate and cogent in his speeches. its not his english that gets him the high praise - its his arguments and his ability to convince others with his clear, logical arguments.

for a politician to win, he needs to convince others to join him or inspire others to work with him towards a goal that he sees.
Rahul has been unable to do either.
 
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A mother and son who ran India for ten full years with ZERO accountability but full power and created corruption records, who still hold a national party under tight hereditary control and have access to more money than 99.999999% Indians ever can imagine must be poor victims of bad Hindus because they are secular with better genes and colour.

The sob story is so bizarre, only a troll with serious issues could have come up with it.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
The division of Andhra was done by an act of Parliament which accepted to give special status to Andhra minus Telangana. Now how can BJP insist on the recommendation of Finance Panel to deny Andhra the special status? Who is our FM and why has he given such a stupid advice to NaMo? Who is superior? parliament or Finance Panel? Jai Ho.
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Can you provide a link to that act of parliament that gave AP "special status" and provide details of what that "special status" involved ?
 
Itachi said:
Dumbest statement.. But the probability of SI demanding to be an independent country cant be over ruled if the central govt which is mostly north indian keeps on neglecting the south while draining our resources.
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Lokayukta Justice Vishwanath Shetty stabbed, Congress leader blames Justice Shetty for attack on himself

Lokayukta Justice Vishwanath Shetty stabbed, Congress leader blames Justice Shetty for attack on himself

In a shocking lapse of security, Karnataka Lokayukta Justice Vishwanath Shetty was stabbed in his office, following which he has been admitted to the hospital with injuries. The accused has now been taken into custody.
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#Visuals from the Karnataka Lokayukta office in Bengaluru: Lokayukta Justice Vishwanath Shetty was stabbed. The accused has been taken into custody by the police. pic.twitter.com/C7KkXCtSZs​
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Karnataka Chief Minister Siddaramaiah reaches Bengaluru's Mallya Hospital to meet Lokayukta Justice Vishwanath Shetty who was stabbed by a man at his office.​
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One of the eyewitnesses has claimed that the accused stabbed the Lokayukta thrice with a knife, following which the latter fell on the floor.

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One person attempted to murder the judge.He hit him 3 times with his knife.The judge fell on the floor. So you can see what kind of security Siddaramaiah govt has provided us. Situation is very bad: Eyewitness Jay Anna on Lokayukta Justice Vishwanath Shetty stabbed in Bengaluru.​

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JUST IN: Shameless defence by Congress; Congress leader pins blame on Karnataka Lokayukta; 'Justice Shetty should have been more careful'
14:48 - 7 Mar 2018

BJP MP Rajeev Chandrasekhar hit out on Congress for the lapse of security.

So msg frm Congress is - as long @siddaramaiah is in govt “everyone” incldg #LokAyukta shd be “careful” bcoz no one is reaponsble or doing anythjng abt #LawAndOrder in #Namma #Bengaluru @OfficeOfRG #SiddaramaiahInAction#ReclaimingBengaluru #KarnatakaElections2018 https://twitter.com/shilpaaganesh/status/971321361938477056 …​

According to Home Minister of Karnataka Ramalinga Reddy, the accused is a contractor from Tumakuru and he complained to the Lokayukta regarding some tenders and he assaulted the judge when he was alone.


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My head boggles. The part that is still not numbed by the extreme partisanship of this government.

I'm wondering where things went so wrong though with fellow Indians that they remain silent, silently (or vocally) even condone.

Seriously guys, do you really not think this goes beyond the pale.

I'm reading the headlines. My blood is boiling.

PM, Shah warn of strict action.

Directives and missives sent to state governments.

Why?

Because statues and friggin busts have been vandalized.

How many such warnings and directives were uttered by these two men when Indians were and are being lynched for eating cows or marrying women of a different faith?

A government for busts, statues, cows and Hindus.

Cheers, Doc
 
Itachi said:
Dumbest statement.. But the probability of SI demanding to be an independent country cant be over ruled if the central govt which is mostly north indian keeps on neglecting the south while draining our resources.
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Please Post in detail how North is neglecting South and draining resources? Each Indian State sends it's Representatives to Parliament & they can raise their Voice There.

Those who wish Independence from Indian Dominion will get bullet in their Forehead.
 
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Parul said:
Please Post in detail how North is neglecting South and draining resources? Each Indian State sends it's Representatives to Parliament & they can raise their Voice There.

Those who wish Independence from Indian Dominion will get bullet in their Forehead.
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South Indian states pays almost 30% of tax revenue to centre with a population of just 20% and centre gives back only 18% to SI states. This disparity is because the centre says states with more population and which are backward should get more money from centre. Even today the tfr of women in UP and Bihar is 3.1 and 3.3 where as that of SI states is less than 1.9. So for forseeable future SI has to forego its rightful share bcz NI states couldnt control there population explosion. Do you know in the last 20 yrs no major railway line was built in SI. There is a reason why SI states depend on road transport for long distance travel.

Lets not start about the representatives in LS. The central govt which is north dominated went back on promises made by the previous govt on the floor of the house to a South Indian state. SI will see there representation cut if seat reorganition is implemented in 2026 for parliament. This was supposed to happen in 2005 but congress postponed it to 2026, not because of love towards us but because they have govts in SI. Bjp will go ahead with the plan bcz they know there base is in north. SI will be punished because of there patriotism towards the union and bcz they did all right.

Somewhere I read that after independence population of MP was just 30% more than that of kerala, today MP population is almost 210% of kerala. In 2026 if there is redistribution of seats, MP will send more than double the number of representatives to centre than kerala. A model state on all social Indicators will see its voice and influence gradually reduce in central politics bcz they did the right thing in Interest of the nation. This is the same fate for all SI states.
 
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Itachi said:
Bjp will go ahead with seat readjustment bcz they know there base is in north.
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This really is the crux of the so-called Hindu polarization.

The schism between north and south will only deepen under the BJP and its Sangh derived ideology.

The schism between Dalits and the upper castes will deepen as well, as they realize their numbers and the power they wield.

Hindutva is a double edged sword, and it will be used to cut both ways.

Cheers, Doc
 
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vsdoc said:
This really is the crux of the so-called Hindu polarization.

The schism between north and south will only deepen under the BJP and its Sangh derived ideology.

The schism between Dalits and the upper castes will deepen as well, as they realize their numbers and the power they wield.

Hindutva is a double edged sword, and it will be used to cut both ways.

Cheers, Doc
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Not to forget the mindset of NI to impose hindi on SI. On a debate in fb southies were trying to explain northies abt how significant there language is to them and how they cant expect SI to learn hindi just bcz majority in north speak or understand hindi. Sadly most of them werent ready to respect our feelings, some were even making comments that those that cant speak hindi should leave India. This mindset is evident with people migrating to SI. Most times I felt that northies that come here expect us to learn hindi in order to converse with them. There is a limit to the rhetoric of Hindi, Hindu, Hinduatan. If people push it hard they will destroy this nation.
 
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Itachi said:
Not to forget the mindset of NI to impose hindi on SI. On a debate in fb southies were trying to explain northies abt how significant there language is to them and how they cant expect SI to learn hindi just bcz majority in north speak or understand hindi. Sadly most of them werent ready to respect our feelings, some were even making comments that those that cant speak hindi should leave India. This mindset is evident with people migrating to SI. Most times I felt that northies that come here expect us to learn hindi in order to converse with them. There is a limit to the rhetoric of Hindi, Hindu, Hinduatan. If people push it hard they will destroy this nation.
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This is just the start buddy.

Like the frothing loony tunes running amok now about beef and love jihad and teary peacocks and flying chariots and bronze age nuclear bombs and perfectly engineered fair skinned babies (remember the crack the BJP guy made about how nobly they had been tolerant in living with the southies?)

These loony tunes running amok now were always there. Barely seen or heard under the secular regimes. The BJP has just made it ok now for them to spread their crap around.

Similarly the anti south sentiment with regard to skin color and language has always been there, but suble and kept under wraps (the madrasi thing ....).

Now increasingly under the BJP you will see and hear what they really feel.

Cheers, Doc
 
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South Indian states pays almost 30% of tax revenue to centre with a population of just 20% and centre gives back only 18% to SI states. This disparity is because the centre says states with more population and which are backward should get more money from centre. Even today the tfr of women in UP and Bihar is 3.1 and 3.3 where as that of SI states is less than 1.9. So for forseeable future SI has to forego its rightful share bcz NI states couldnt control there population explosion. Do you know in the last 20 yrs no major railway line was built in SI. There is a reason why SI states depend on road transport for long distance travel.

Lets not start about the representatives in LS. The central govt which is north dominated went back on promises made by the previous govt on the floor of the house to a South Indian state. SI will see there representation cut if seat reorganition is implemented in 2026 for parliament. This was supposed to happen in 2005 but congress postponed it to 2026, not because of love towards us but because they have govts in SI. Bjp will go ahead with the plan bcz they know there base is in north. SI will be punished because of there patriotism towards the union and bcz they did all right.

Somewhere I read that after independence population of MP was just 30% more than that of kerala, today MP population is almost 210% of kerala. In 2026 if there is redistribution of seats, MP will send more than double the number of representatives to centre than kerala. A model state on all social Indicators will see its voice and influence gradually reduce in central politics bcz they did the right thing in Interest of the nation. This is the same fate for all SI states.
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Tamilnadu held so many important central minister posts last 2 decades but all they did was corruption and regional parochial politics.

For such awesome intelligent states, you sure do elect good politicians. Stop blaming the north if ur own politicians won't use their rightful place in India for your development.

Btw I'm from the state that contributes the most to India. And south Indians come to my state and do regional favoritism. And to me any talk of separatism is poison.

And yes about the time MP population was comparable to Kerala, even then there was separatism talk in the South.
 
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Notsuperstitious said:
Tamilnadu held so many important central minister posts last 2 decades but all they did was corruption and regional parochial politics.

For such awesome intelligent states, you sure do elect good politicians.
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Check your facts, TN is the most industrialized state in India and ranks second in revenue collection (was ranked 3rd befored bifurcation of AP).

These are the 5 most industrialised states in India

One has to give credit to TN, for all the corrupt politicians that it produces they sure take care of the interests of the state.
 
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