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Indian Political Discussion
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Ya but Arya Samaj is relatively new. Many do not even consider them mainstream.
ISKON at least here in Pune is seen as a western-centric cult, forget mainstream.
Ghar Wapsi is reversion. In effect, someone of Indian origin who is not currently a Hindu, being now invested into Hinduism.
I've read about older times when warring tribes were absorbed into Hinduism to replace the original Vedic Kshatriyas who had been suppressed and marginalized and finally destroyed/disbanded as a caste by the Brahmins.
Now these were definitely not Indic bloodlines. But I guess over 2000 odd years they've inter bred and now are considered Indic. I'm referring to the Agni Kul Rajputs.
So are there clear laws about bloodlines in Hinduism, or can anybody become a Hindu.
And if the latter (I'm guessing, by your last statement), how? Are there some ancient references and rituals prescribed for the same?
And how are they then fit into the current existing structure in terms of caste?
Cheers, Doc
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Arya Samaj was stared in 1875 and that is pretty old to me. They are Vedic hindus practicing vedic principles.
ISKON is pretty mainstream and has more than 300 centers in India. It has more than 10 million followers in India.
I have never heard of any Waring tribes being absorbed into Hinduism. Same with Agni Kul Rajputs.
There are clear bloodlines in Jathi and sometimes in Gotra, but not in Hinduism.
Once can become a Hindu, but one cannot claim a Jathi lineage. However, one can be adopted into a specific gotra by initiation. This happens during his upanayana samskara / gayatri deeksha by his guru. His guru's gotra becomes his gotra.
Existing system of castes only refer to their Jathi's. Not to their Gotra.
So anyone who is India gets converted, will continue to be in his same jathi.
My point was in comparison to how old Hinduism was, 1875 and 1966 are hardly old. The Rajneesh movement is probably as old as the Hare Krishna movement.
Anyways, this is a pure religious discussion so let's stop it. Thanks for your efforts in answering. Appreciated.
Cheers, Doc
I think you inquiry was directed at discovering bloodlines in Hinduism, not about the religion itself.
Which is why I mentioned Gotra, which started out with the lineage of a particular guru. Prominent gotras are Gautama, Bharadwaja, Vishvamitra, Jamadagni, Vashista, Kashyapa, Atri. and Agasthya. But they are not blood lineage, they are Guru Lineage. Each guru had his particular school where one of the 4 vedas was given more importance than the other. Some had a mix of vedas more suited to that society. Before Veda vyasa there as no separate vedas, so each guru and his gotra taught only a particular part of the vedas and only the specialists studied the entire vedas.
Veda Vyasa was 5000 years ago, so I am talking about gurus and lineage who are older than 5000 years.
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#FuturePM
This is EPIC.
He thinks ITI guys trains Barbers
...... and apparently barbers have this amazing network where they share details of their secret assignments. 
If a 50 year old man talks such nonsense, there is only one word to describe him. MORON.
He seems to be getting dumber with age. I never thought that was possible.
This is what happens when Indians marry Italians.
.......... stick to marrying Indians and at least your kids won't be dumb.
There was a time not long back when muslims in old city would support pakistan in ind vs pak cricket match and raise the pak flag and celebrate if they win. Those acts have reduced of late and are no where to be seen now. What they think doesnt matter today they are limited to just 7 mla seats cornered in ths old city while they rest if hyderabad is ever expanding.
RaGa is what you get when you mix and breed Muslim+Parsi+Italian blood. They all have history of inbreeding.
Parsis yes. Small community. Mixing with the native population would make us lose what we came here to protect. Would be stupid, even if it were not against the tenets of our ancient faith.
Italians I do not know.
But where did Rahul ji get Muslim blood from?
The other obvious question though would be - what is the difference in the blood of an Muslim Indian and a Hindu Indian? They are the same people, same blood.
Or are you working on the assumption that every Muslim Indian received some foreign invader genes along with his faith gratis?
Cheers, Doc
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@vstol Jockey
Did you know that in terms of community-wise breakup, in large parts of India, and the whole of the south, Hindus have a higher rate of consanguineous marriages in India than Muslims do?
Both uncle-niece as well as cross-cousin.
That India is one of the very few remaining countries in the world where first-cousin marriages still take place.
And that with few exceptions, caste endogamy is obligatory within the varna and jati, which the gotra and sapinda have attempted to negate over time?
So much for your Muslim and Parsi jibe.
You should stick to planes buddy. And weird shaped axes.
Cheers, Doc
Did you know that in terms of community-wise breakup, in large parts of India, and the whole of the south, Hindus have a higher rate of consanguineous marriages in India than Muslims do?
Both uncle-niece as well as cross-cousin.
That India is one of the very few remaining countries in the world where first-cousin marriages still take place.
And that with few exceptions, caste endogamy is obligatory within the varna and jati, which the gotra and sapinda have attempted to negate over time?
So much for your Muslim and Parsi jibe.
You should stick to planes buddy. And weird shaped axes.
Cheers, Doc
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