Infantry Combat Vehicles of Indian Army

Nikhil said:
This is the might of Indian Pvt sector a junk APC with pathetic build quality by all world standard LOL....DRDO have to been roped in to give these loosers some breath of fresh air but Military is already looking for foreign option....I hope OFB come with better IFV design at least.
Before:
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After DRDO involvement... improvement yes! but crap want change into gold.
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Now compare this to Russian boomerang a state owned enterprise product of Russian industry superior in both build quality and level of high end technology it offer's.
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The Kestrel was always DRDO designed TATA built. DRDO was roped in ? for what ? It was their project/design from the beginning. The first photo was the early prototype the next is a later model. Also notice how the second model shows a Elbit built turret ? Another private company in case you are wondering.

Also comparing the Russians with us is laughable. How many years have the russians been building APCs for ? That experience counts for nothing ? How much money did the Russians put in to that project ? Its multiple times higher than ours. Crawl, walk and run. That's the progression. If you are so afraid of taking the first step how do you plan of getting to the next ?
Nikhil said:
So adani ambani are new innovator of pvt defence industry... nothing to do with crony capitalism.
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Weird kind of crony he is, all the allegations and still nothing proven in the courts.

Citing one example of private company to judge the nature of the entire pvt. sector. Nice ! A word of advice : Never do market surveys by yourself. The end result will not reflect reality.

Going by your procedure of judging the entire spectrum by one example I should judge all PSUs by the OFB and their ineptness to come up with one modern assault rifle. Never mind the other PSUs doing great work. Since the OFB is horrible all PSUs must be horrible too right ?
 
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Gautam said:
The Kestrel was always DRDO designed TATA built. DRDO was roped in ? for what ? It was their project/design from the beginning
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That's right - Kestrel aka WhAP is designed by VRDE. Tata is just the production agency.

For in-house D&D of heavy armoured vehicles like IFVs Tata has tied up with General Dynamics, but with MoD dilly-dallying with FICV project this JV is fruitless so far.
 
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Deathstar said:
Bess from Battlefield 1 looks better than this
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And this is a WW1 era tank
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Serious question.
Can we revisit the design of this tank. I seriously liked it.
An armour protection for the upperside of track on both the sides.
The side machine guns can be replaced by ATGMs
The main machine gun by BMP2s gun.
Probably 2 man fighting vehicle which will be light weight and agile.
It can be used in conjunction with armoured columns for shoot and scoot.
What do u think @Gautam
 
Deathstar said:
Serious question.
Can we revisit the design of this tank. I seriously liked it.
An armour protection for the upperside of track on both the sides.
The side machine guns can be replaced by ATGMs
The main machine gun by BMP2s gun.
Probably 2 man fighting vehicle which will be light weight and agile.
It can be used in conjunction with armoured columns for shoot and scoot.
What do u think @Gautam
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The good thing about a lot of these older designs is their low weight and mobility, that brings us to the problem with them. The lack of weight is largely due to lack of protection, what was sufficient in WW1 or 2 won't be enough for present battlefields. If you up-armour these old IFVs they won't be agile anymore. Consider the following : The BMP's gun, that is the Shipunov 2A42 auto cannon can be fed in two different ways. One is a belt/chain fed mechanism(as seen on some Russian attack helicopters) the other is a link-less rotating feeder as seen on BMPs. The belt/chain feed allows you to reduce the size and weight of the weapon package but it brings in and element of unreliability, the link less feed will make the gun package larger but very reliable. The 2A42 will have to be chain fed to be fitted on to that tiny tank.

This is one of the many challenges that designers faced in designing IFVs, thus the IFVs around the world grew larger in size with time. The only way we can go back to those smaller sizes of WW1 now is if we go unmanned. That's just my take.
 
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Gautam said:
The good thing about a lot of these older designs is their low weight and mobility, that brings us to the problem with them. The lack of weight is largely due to lack of protection, what was sufficient in WW1 or 2 won't be enough for present battlefields. If you up-armour these old IFVs they won't be agile anymore. Consider the following : The BMP's gun, that is the Shipunov 2A42 auto cannon can be fed in two different ways. One is a belt/chain fed mechanism(as seen on some Russian attack helicopters) the other is a link-less rotating feeder as seen on BMPs. The belt/chain feed allows you to reduce the size and weight of the weapon package but it brings in and element of unreliability, the link less feed will make the gun package larger but very reliable. The 2A42 will have to be chain fed to be fitted on to that tiny tank.

This is one of the many challenges that designers faced in designing IFVs, thus the IFVs around the world grew larger in size with time. The only way we can go back to those smaller sizes of WW1 now is if we go unmanned. That's just my take.
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Unmanned , now thats a good suggestion i feel. Just like manned unmanned teaming for aircrafts. This can be for tanks. Such unmanned FVs can be the first line of engagement with approaching armoured columns. They can take as manyy as possible tanks using their ATGMs.
Can target CAS , Helis before they could engage attack our tanks.
In my opinion Shoot and Scoot ability will be very effective for such systems.
 
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OFB, DRDO working on futuristic infantry combat vehicle

By Press Trust of India | Kolkata
Last Updated at March 17, 2020 21:36 IST


The Ordnance Factory Board (OFB), in collaboration with DRDO, is developing a futuristic infantry combat vehicle (FICV) for the Army, which may see the light of day in three to five years.

The Army at present has the infantry personnel carrier with a 30 mm gun - the BMP II.

The FICV will have advanced features that were in the drawing board stage a few years back, OFB Chairman Hari Mohan told reporters at a press conference here.

Mohan said the OFB and Defence Research and Development Organisation, which were earlier working separately on the FICV, are now joining hands to develop it.

"It is an evolving product; features will keep developing for the FICV," he said.

"Depending upon interaction with Army officials... when the product comes to an acceptable stage and the Army gives its nod, production will start. It will be tentatively named Mark I," Mohan said.

While Mark I of FICV is expected in three to five years, Mark II may be visible in the horizon in five to 10 years, the OFB chairman said.

He said the biggest advantage of the FICV is almost everything is being developed within the country.

"There may be some very small sub-systems which we will be importing now...," Mohan said.

An OFB official said the new FICV will have enhanced firepower, including an auto grenade launcher with a range of 1,500 metres and anti-tank guided missile capability, which launches missiles at a range of 4,000 metres with automated command.

It will also have a gun control system integrated with a thermal imager fire control system, the official said.

Mohan said with the Union government focusing on export of defence products, the OFB is aiming at Rs 500-crore worth of exports in the next two to three years.

"Defence exports stood at Rs 15 crore-20 crore two to three years back. It rose to Rs 240 crore last year," he added.

(This story has not been edited by Business Standard staff and is auto-generated from a syndicated feed.)

OFB, DRDO working on futuristic infantry combat vehicle
 
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