INS Vikrant (IAC1) & INS Vikramaditya - News & Discussions

The Navy has already confirmed to go ahead with the IAC-2 on the lines of the IAC-1 commissioned as INS Vikrant.

Admiral R Hari Kumar confirmed by saying, “Initially we will go for the repeat order with improved capabilities and in the meantime, we will go for study of larger carriers. Because the third aircraft which will come in and by the time it will be commissioned by that time the life of INS Vikramaditya may end.” He was speaking with the media on the sidelines of Aero India 2023.

The earlier plans, as per the Chief of Naval Staff were that “the IAC 2 should be bigger than IAC 1 in size. The size of INS Vikrant is 44,000 tonnes and we wanted the IAC2 to be around 65,000 tonnes.” The decision for the repeat order of IAC 1 is based on multiple factors including construction time, the cost involved and the trajectory of indigenization of the aviation assets also.

Admiral Hari Kumar said, “When we have to design a new aircraft carrier, it will take time and we have to bring new technologies because the present arresting, landing through catapult system is being changed now. For new design, the ship-building facility will have to be upgraded. So we thought if we went for the repeat order the work would start soon.”
The Navy has already confirmed to go ahead with the IAC-2 on the lines of the IAC-1 commissioned as INS Vikrant.

Admiral R Hari Kumar confirmed by saying, “Initially we will go for the repeat order with improved capabilities and in the meantime, we will go for study of larger carriers. Because the third aircraft which will come in and by the time it will be commissioned by that time the life of INS Vikramaditya may end.” He was speaking with the media on the sidelines of Aero India 2023.

The earlier plans, as per the Chief of Naval Staff were that “the IAC 2 should be bigger than IAC 1 in size. The size of INS Vikrant is 44,000 tonnes and we wanted the IAC2 to be around 65,000 tonnes.” The decision for the repeat order of IAC 1 is based on multiple factors including construction time, the cost involved and the trajectory of indigenization of the aviation assets also.

Admiral Hari Kumar said, “When we have to design a new aircraft carrier, it will take time and we have to bring new technologies because the present arresting, landing through catapult system is being changed now. For new design, the ship-building facility will have to be upgraded. So we thought if we went for the repeat order the work would start soon.”
That makes TEDBF requirements to atleast a 100 along with 26 Rafales.

If MRBCF doesn't happen, then 120 minimum.
 
The Navy has already confirmed to go ahead with the IAC-2 on the lines of the IAC-1 commissioned as INS Vikrant.

Admiral R Hari Kumar confirmed by saying, “Initially we will go for the repeat order with improved capabilities and in the meantime, we will go for study of larger carriers. Because the third aircraft which will come in and by the time it will be commissioned by that time the life of INS Vikramaditya may end.” He was speaking with the media on the sidelines of Aero India 2023.

The earlier plans, as per the Chief of Naval Staff were that “the IAC 2 should be bigger than IAC 1 in size. The size of INS Vikrant is 44,000 tonnes and we wanted the IAC2 to be around 65,000 tonnes.” The decision for the repeat order of IAC 1 is based on multiple factors including construction time, the cost involved and the trajectory of indigenization of the aviation assets also.

Admiral Hari Kumar said, “When we have to design a new aircraft carrier, it will take time and we have to bring new technologies because the present arresting, landing through catapult system is being changed now. For new design, the ship-building facility will have to be upgraded. So we thought if we went for the repeat order the work would start soon.”

That makes TEDBF requirements to atleast a 100 along with 26 Rafales.

If MRBCF doesn't happen, then 120 minimum.
I'm happy with the progress regarding the IAC-2 but IN should also start focusing on the LHD program. It has been on the back burner for far too long. Only one RFI was released and since then no new development has been noticed. Hope, IN understands the importance.
 
I'm happy with the progress regarding the IAC-2 but IN should also start focusing on the LHD program. It has been on the back burner for far too long. Only one RFI was released and since then no new development has been noticed. Hope, IN understands the importance.
If LHD is coming as a too complex/costly endeavour, perhaps we should go for a small 5-6000 ton LST to beef up the amphibious capability.
 
If LHD is coming as a too complex/costly endeavour, perhaps we should go for a small 5-6000 ton LST to beef up the amphibious capability.
Where's the money babuji ? Between critical needs to be met like MRCBF , to the upcoming forever P-75 I , to the SSNs , to the IAC-2 , to the MCMVs , to the NUH not to mention ongoing requirements like the Sea Guardian drones we're importing or additional nos of P-8i & on & on .

Forget about it this decade. Whatever happens will be in 2030 or later . For all you know we may build it all ourselves with our own designs & outside consultancy .
 
I'm happy with the progress regarding the IAC-2 but IN should also start focusing on the LHD program. It has been on the back burner for far too long. Only one RFI was released and since then no new development has been noticed. Hope, IN understands the importance.
Yes, we need more CVs for sure but I honestly can't see it happening until we have a bigger economy which can support the MIC better. Personally I would prefer if a CATOBAR of 60k-70k tonnes is designed and built next. Get a solid design and a proper air-wing and then we can start building a carrier fleet of 3/4. This would be a natural progression along with solid GDP growth which also makes it realtistic goal. But, like @_Anonymous_ said; not in this decade.
 
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Yes, we need more CVs for sure but I honestly can't see it happening until we have a bigger economy which can support the MIC better. Personally I would prefer if a CATOBAR of 60k-70k tonnes is designed and built next. Get a solid design and a proper air-wing and then we can start building a carrier fleet of 3/4. This would be a natural progression along with solid GDP growth which also makes it realtistic goal. But, like @_Anonymous_ said; not in this decade.
A repeat carrier order, the quickest realistic way to get a new AC for us, will either not be ready or be really touch n go for this decade anyway despite what CSL says. The upgrade in spec we want for a catobar version, lots of backend programs are still in R&D phase. So you have choose your priority, what is best for you.
 
I'm happy with the progress regarding the IAC-2 but IN should also start focusing on the LHD program. It has been on the back burner for far too long. Only one RFI was released and since then no new development has been noticed. Hope, IN understands the importance.

There has not been any update or call since August, if you mean the LPDs then this was what they shared back then, probably will proceed in new fiscal year hopefully.

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A repeat carrier order, the quickest realistic way to get a new AC for us, will either not be ready or be really touch n go for this decade anyway despite what CSL says. The upgrade in spec we want for a catobar version, lots of backend programs are still in R&D phase. So you have choose your priority, what is best for you.
Where was there ever talk of a CATOBAR version ? CSL said they could deliver a replica of INS Vikrant in 5 yrs . IN never commented on the CATOBAR version at all . Instead they've talked about Electric Propulsion for the upcoming AC. The technologies for CATOBAR are being developed & aren't expected before the end of this decade based on what I recall from what I've read on this some time back.
 
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Where was there ever talk of a CATOBAR version ? CSL said they could deliver a replica of INS Vikrant in 5 yrs . IN never commented on the CATOBAR version at all . Instead they've talked about Electric Propulsion for the upcoming AC. The technologies for CATOBAR are being developed & aren't expected before the end of this decade based on what I recall from what I've read on this some time back.
Oh I was replying to the comment above, and we all probably want a catobar AC asap. But that is probably 2 decades away as things are.
 
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As the way things are progressing it seems every IN aircraft carrier will have a separate fighter aircraft embarked on it like Mig-29k for INS Vikramaditya, Rafale for IAC-1/2 and TEDBF for IAC-3 (props to such planning and strategy).