Kashmir : Counter Terror Operation Updates and Discussions

Gautam said:
Don't we need the usual video/audio drama of "ISIS" claiming responsibility ? Don't we need a face for ISIS in India ? and wouldn't the "ISIS" need a convincing motivation ?
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How many faces of ISIS have you seen in France? In Europe? In Australia?

ISIS is a "mesh" of terrorism. Any god damn random face can be ISIS face. And if you are short of faces, lots can be generated... Here are few face generatedd :


If you want you can generate any random face complete with a message and talking...

ISIS has no central face. There are too many faces. Plus Kashmiri have many times flown that black flag itself. Practically, any face can be ISIS now... And they are known to be brutal.

Gautam said:
What you are suggesting isn't that far off from the Ikhwans of the 90s, except for truck bombs and stuff. Why were they dismantled in the first place ?
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I don't know what is that. Care to elaborate?
 
Shajida Khan said:
ISIS has no central face. There are too many faces. Plus Kashmiri have many times flown that black flag itself. Practically, any face can be ISIS now... And they are known to be brutal.
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Point made. That video freaked me out.
Shajida Khan said:
I don't know what is that. Care to elaborate?
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If you know nothing then this is a good starting point.
Ikhwan (Kashmir) - Wikipedia
Its a good enough summary, just don't believe everything word by word. Now there are many versions of the story but to me it seems that they were disbanded largely because of public pressure. Pressure largely built up by the same bunch of people in the media who now sing songs of how Buhran Wani was a "headmaster's son". They are still active by the way just less in number and more incognito.

However, using them to stage large scale bombings would mean they can't operate incognito anymore. I don't know, may be getting them to do sniping will be better.
 
vstol Jockey said:
@Falcon, @Narendar Singh, I have seen many videos wherein the terrorists join the funeral of dead terrorists. Why can't we take out these guys thru sniper action. We now have NSG in the area. At least depute their guys to do this job. Kill these guys thru sniper strikes.
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Not exactly a great idea sir.

They are Indian citizens, they will be taken out when they act against the nation - they are being taken out in that precisely.
 
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Falcon said:
They are Indian citizens, they will be taken out when they act against the nation - they are being taken out in that precisely.
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This is precisely our problem, sir. Kashmir is our land alright. Kashmiri? When they don't think that they are Indians then why do we keep on insisting them to be one.
 
Gautam said:
However, using them to stage large scale bombings would mean they can't operate incognito anymore. I don't know, may be getting them to do sniping will be better.
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No one needs to go "out of" covers. Just let ISIS own all of those acts.
Gautam said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1109418286427578370
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Well, here you are... Indian Army has been branded to be Child-Killer without any shred of evidence. And you were bothering for "Log Kya Kahenge". Its never Log Kya Kahenge, its always Logon ko Kya Dihkana hai.
 
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My personal take:

Had the Kashmiri's resorted to violence immediately in aftermath of the signing of Instrument of Accession against Union of India, I would have accepted the violence as a freedom struggle. That all those who are picking up the gun in name of 'azadi' or 'self determination' were born as Citizens of India, given records of same and use passports of same, indicates that they are Indians.

Now any Indian taking up the weapon and renouncing citizenship of India and claiming to be citizens of Pakistan or Kashmir, as per our own citizenship act, means is no more an Indian. What is required to be done is to de-register the said people from citizenship roster - immediately. We are not concerned with the fact that there is no independent State of Kashmir, merely with the fact that the citizenship is being renounced. And to force a citizenship on a citizen who does not want to be a citizen, is travesty of all laws of a nation that calls itself as a legal nation.

Further. After the de-registration , anyone who raises a voice/weapon, should not be given the protection of law of the nation, and simply dealt with under provisions of waging war against the union of india.
 
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Falcon said:
My personal take:

Had the Kashmiri's resorted to violence immediately in aftermath of the signing of Instrument of Accession against Union of India, I would have accepted the violence as a freedom struggle. That all those who are picking up the gun in name of 'azadi' or 'self determination' were born as Citizens of India, given records of same and use passports of same, indicates that they are Indians.

Now any Indian taking up the weapon and renouncing citizenship of India and claiming to be citizens of Pakistan or Kashmir, as per our own citizenship act, means is no more an Indian. What is required to be done is to de-register the said people from citizenship roster - immediately. We are not concerned with the fact that there is no independent State of Kashmir, merely with the fact that the citizenship is being renounced. And to force a citizenship on a citizen who does not want to be a citizen, is travesty of all laws of a nation that calls itself as a legal nation.

Further. After the de-registration , anyone who raises a voice/weapon, should not be given the protection of law of the nation, and simply dealt with under provisions of waging war against the union of india.
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I don't know. Picking up weapons is an end state of something which starts much earlier. Participating in these funerals, paying heed to known terrorists, throwing stones on armed forces... Lots of steps in between.
 
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Shajida Khan said:
Well, here you are... Indian Army has been branded to be Baby-Killer without any shred of evidence. And you were bothering for "Log Kya Kahenge".
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Point made sir, but you see its not me saying "Log Kya Kahenge", its our leaders. Perception alone makes them go weak in the knees, its unlikely they will take any such proactive measures at all.
 
Funerals of terrorists shouldnt be allowed in the first place.Why allow this rockstar in death treatment.Do it as we did it in the 90s.Shoot the dogs and dump them in the jhelum or some unmarked grave.
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
The killing of a 12-year-old boy in Kashmir has prompted local voices to decry militant tactics
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  • Strange people Kashmiris, they respect terrorists when they attack others, dread them when turn on them.
  • Inform on those terrorists and then cry for them in funeral.
  • Don't want to give taxes to India but demand every possible privilege, even more than Indian on our tax money.
  • Gives shelter to snakes and when they bite them cry.
  • Want tourism money but support stone pelters creating havoc.
  • Act religious yet feed their children with haram money.
  • Claim they dont want to be harmed yet take their children at the dangerous places where bullets fly, pelt stone and then try hardest to somehow get the child injured for money and propaganda.

Is this proximity with Pakistan that they have turned into this strange animals or something else?
 
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