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India selects IAI/Elta Systems radar and EW suite for Tejas LCA Mk 1A
Rahul Bedi, New Delhi - Jane's Defence Weekly
10 December 2018
India's state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has signed a deal with Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI)/Elta Systems for 83 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars and an equal number of electronic warfare (EW) suites to be fitted onto the Mk 1A variant of the indigenously developed Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA).
Industry sources told Jane's that the deal for ELM-2052 fire control radars and pod-mounted ELL-8222WB (wide band) self-protection jamming pods was "quietly" signed in late October after IAI/Elta emerged as the lowest bidder for the two compatible systems.
The IAI/Elta products were selected over systems fielded by rivals Thales and Saab, which had also responded to HAL's December 2016 request for quotation for AESA radars and EW suites.
India selects IAI/Elta Systems radar and EW suite for Tejas LCA Mk 1A | Jane's 360
Rahul Bedi, New Delhi - Jane's Defence Weekly
10 December 2018
India's state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has signed a deal with Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI)/Elta Systems for 83 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars and an equal number of electronic warfare (EW) suites to be fitted onto the Mk 1A variant of the indigenously developed Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA).
Industry sources told Jane's that the deal for ELM-2052 fire control radars and pod-mounted ELL-8222WB (wide band) self-protection jamming pods was "quietly" signed in late October after IAI/Elta emerged as the lowest bidder for the two compatible systems.
The IAI/Elta products were selected over systems fielded by rivals Thales and Saab, which had also responded to HAL's December 2016 request for quotation for AESA radars and EW suites.
India selects IAI/Elta Systems radar and EW suite for Tejas LCA Mk 1A | Jane's 360
Same radar as on the Jaguar DARIN-3 upgrade. Glad it wasn't a completely different system.
Personally I was counting on either the 2052 or modified RBE-2AA winning the competition (although 2052 was clearly the more realistic option given we already use 2032 MMR on Mk-1). Those were the only 2 systems which would have offered a great capability + having a degree of commonality with other IAF aircraft.
No, it didn't waste any time. We don't even have FOC yet.
And it's all cheaper now because of the tender.
Not for Rafale in India, since an order for LCA, not only had increased commonality in the fleet, but also the possibility to reduce costs, by increasing the RBE 2 production numbers.
Standard procedure to gain more benefits, but it took far too long (nearly 2 years?).
Exactly, easy to upgrade from EL 2032, compatible to integrated AAMs, increased commonality in the fleet..., it was the logical choice. The only issue was, that it includes US parts, which makes it dependent on US approvals. We saw that in the already, where they blocked Israel to supply the radar to Saab for the Gripen NG TD.
However, they shouldn't have limited the MK1A to 1 supplier for radar and EW, but maximised the benefits by making 2 separate deals out of it.
This dude is clueless about i-Derby ER
http://aviationweek.com/paris-air-show-2015/i-derby-er-all-new-performance-0
PARIS: Tejas likely to be armed with Derby
Let me share something very important here. Meteor is the worst missile for BVR combat with fighters. US, Russia and Israel have the tech to develop one but have refused to do so. Why?
The initial burnout of the motor gives out over 1200*F temp which can be detected from over 50NM by modern day MAWS. USAF has chosen a tactic to fire AMRAAM-D from over 165KMs and break off by 135KMs. Why? To ensure that initial burnout is beyond the detection range of MAWS and after that the missile cruises loosing its kinetic energy slowly. During that phase it will not be detected by the MAWS.
Using a dual pulse motor to extend range wherein the missile goes thru initial boost where it can be detected at launch and then using duel pulse to complete the end game is better than having a missile which has its backside on fire thruout and will be detected by MAWS from very large distances giving enough warning to the target to either vacate or accelerate away from the NFU of the approaching missile.
Meteor is good for only HVTs which are slow but useless for fighters. I will put MICA NG as the best BVR missile with dual pulse motor.
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Russia is developing a ramjet version of R77, Israel is using rocket boosters for Derby or Python V, Japan is developing a ramjet AAM with tech support from the Europeans, China and even DRDO have similar developments too.Why? Because they understand, that speed is the crucial advantage to increase kill probability, not extending maximum range.
And the fact that France itself puts it's hope on Meteor, while MICA NG is just a modernisation to arm Mirage 2000s in future, should tell you something too.
Both types of missiles can complement each other though.
Also, from what I've heard, the Meteor will sustain its speed no different from any regular missile during cruise phase, but accelerate during endgame just like a dual pulse motor would. The only difference is the Meteor's endgame can be much larger than a missile with solid rocket motors, thereby increasing the NEZ.
Basically, the initial burn time for both Meteor and solid rocket is more or less the same. The cruise profile is similar. And the Meteor's endgame is superior, which is where we see the real difference.
MICA-NG will be the primary BVR missile of the Rafale and M-2000.