Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

Chain Smoker said:
River of Sorrow

It strange and true that the Chinese have a bitter history of fighting and losing soldiers midstream the rivers against their adversaries.

The recent Galvan incident near Patrolling Point 14 overlooking Galwan River was somewhat similar to Sino Russin border Skirmish on Amur river in South Siberia. The icy frozen river was witness to Russians and Chiese troop indulging in hand to hand fight in 1969 in which so many Chinese soldiers were beaten to death and thrown into in the river by the Russians.

In Galwan the Chinese perhaps had that institutional memory at the back of their mind and may have wished to redeem themselves of that horrible memory least realizing that the ledge they were standing on throwing stones from top on Indian soldiers would collapse taking down more than 50 Chinese into icy Galwan killing many of them.

Here again The Chinese instead of redeeming themselves from Amur shame agin got into bad side of Indian soldiers again to remain shut and calm about their massive casualties.. and maybe another shame.
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Some chinese bodies should have floated down to Shyok river .. Are there any rumours floating about it.. or about pics of the bodies..
 
The Chinese have brought in more units at each of the standoff points in Ladakh. They have also buffered up their reserve areas across the LAC. Their PLASSF is busy launching preliminary cyberattacks (DDOS) against critical Indian infrastructure.
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Just filter ALL traffic coming from ANY chinese IP. simple. No need for any computer in India to talk to anything in China. Let them get through the trouble of getting hosts in non Chinese countries where we can legally take them out.
 
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randomradio said:
It depends on what you consider a response. If you are talking about war, then what is the objective?
The same with economic and diplomatic offensive. What are the main objectives?

In case GoI does respond effectively, their way of doing it may not suit with your taste either. It might be extremely effective, but you may consider it as not enough.
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If you think the answer to mutilated bodies of soldiers are spin-doctoring, diplomatic speak while our leaders wear new new towels everyday and do mitroooo, I have nothing to say.

At the end of day, power emanates and projects from very simple things. Physical force is the be all, end all. We may become 10000 trillion economy, but if we aren't ready to show force, we are just lambs for the taking. GoI has tried every avenue till now, did it stop anything?

There's no effectiveness of all this MEA haberdashery. This all talk of an elusive solution that isn't military but will miraculously effect Chinese is hocus pocus.
 
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jetray said:
Next they will come with big dump trucks and try to bull doze us. I suggest we be one step ahead of them and also be more creative.

I think we should take vantage point and keep big boulders ready and roll them when they approach.
Give cover using sling shots.
Throw shit or rotting carcass at them, yeah you heard that right.
build catapults which throw stones.
Use massive water pumps to fire water jets at them.
Use big speakers and blare shitty bollywood songs 24/7.
Get some tibetan mastiffs and let them lose after keeping them hungry for a day. Infect them with rabies for more effect.
Do some voodo black magic and splash rotten sauce all over the place.
Start dynamiting the entire area, claim it is normal construction.
Set up animal traps and trap them.
Open a camp for xinjianj refugees right across the line.
capture few of them and use them as sheilds.
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Instead of army, CRPF from kashmir would more suited to handle these barbarians. We need to adopt guerilla tactics, hit & run and then ambush them.

No doubt for every thing we do they will have other plans to open a front elsewhere. Either we need to guess their next move or we need a surprise element , normal response wont be much useful.
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Shitty bollywood music :D
 
AbRaj said:
Idiots are running this country.
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MoD and MEA babus sitting pretty with their salaries and cushy lives. If wars really start in earnest, won't military take a more frontal space? Won't their postings and standings hurt?

Before Chinese, a certain other class of red tapers need some love from dandas and gangajal.
 
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Sanglamorre said:
If you think the answer to mutilated bodies of soldiers are spin-doctoring, diplomatic speak while our leaders wear new new towels everyday and do mitroooo, I have nothing to say.

At the end of day, power emanates and projects from very simple things. Physical force is the be all, end all. We may become 10000 trillion economy, but if we aren't ready to show force, we are just lambs for the taking. GoI has tried every avenue till now, did it stop anything?

There's no effectiveness of all this MEA haberdashery. This all talk of an elusive solution that isn't military but will miraculously effect Chinese is hocus pocus.
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I don't think you've understood my point. I'm all for a short skirmish or even a limited war. I had already pointed out that we can take and hold Aksai Chin.

All I'm doing is asking you what you think should be our objective. Economic, political and military. Do you want us to retaliate all along the border? If so, how far do we go?

Do you want complete economic sanction, like what we did with Pakistan? Do you want us to build alliances against China? Do you want something else done instead?
 
randomradio said:
I don't think you've understood my point. I'm all for a short skirmish or even a limited war. I had already pointed out that we can take and hold Aksai Chin.

All I'm doing is asking you what you think should be our objective. Economic, political and military. Do you want us to retaliate all along the border? If so, how far do we go?

Do you want complete economic sanction, like what we did with Pakistan? Do you want us to build alliances against China? Do you want something else done instead?
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Be a part of an active alliance against China and keep hitting them on LAC
Whenever they intrude

Actively boycott their products

Raise Tibet issue and establish Relations with Taiwan
 
randomradio said:
I don't think you've understood my point. I'm all for a short skirmish or even a limited war. I had already pointed out that we can take and hold Aksai Chin.

All I'm doing is asking you what you think should be our objective. Economic, political and military. Do you want us to retaliate all along the border? If so, how far do we go?

Do you want complete economic sanction, like what we did with Pakistan? Do you want us to build alliances against China? Do you want something else done instead?
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Oh.
Militarily, we should hold Aksai, but also make a dash towards Lhasa and Manas Sarovar. If doesn't matter if we can hold Lhasa as long as we can establish permanent threats not too far from the city. Basically, I'm asking for a strip of land held by us surrounding Nepal and Bhutan. Any more, and we'll seriously stretch our supply lines.

Diplomatically, I'm not sure building alliances is going to help seeing how a lot of countries will get antsy due to the dependency on Chinese. Quad is a nice ideas, but will it translate to anything more? I have serious doubts. But what I think should be done is reiterate our support for one China policy, but for RoC. Declaring PRC illegal occupation and therefore not a govt will open up more military, and sub conventional options. Total ceasura on diplomatic relations with PRC.

Sub conventionally, use that land strip to settle Tibetans. Use their self immolation urges to bombing Chinese. Create a refugee influx into China with that land as staging area. When Chinese retaliate, mount pressure on the now illegal (by GoI locus standi) PRC occupationists killing poor Tibetans. Also, cutting off Nepal is going to be helpful immensely.

Economically, create a irregular force/black ops to regularly hassle Chinese vessels and blame it on piracy. Make owning a Chinese object a matter of shame and disgust. Current government has some... Organisations at their disposal that can incessantly churn out sinophobic content. Use that.
 
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For those who waiting for military action, they going to be disappointed becoz neither China or India won't do any aggressive action becoz ot will escalate the issue further, so most likely going to happen is rants in twitter and talks on LAC to achieve normalcy, agi. Like 28th feb our reluctance to change sop and rules of engagement caused 20 lives this time, look at the Chinese mela weapon's they used i don't think it's a just clash it's preplanned one, if we do t change our mind set and roe we going lose more i. Future


Ps: am not a troll but if my criticism feel like one thats on u.
 
shaxm said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1273503549499092994

what exactly are these guys still discussing?
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How to stagger number and manner of how the violence took place. GoI is trickling information so the public doesn't go apeshit and demand actual, strong non-diploeconomic actions from Modi against his jhula partner. Rest assured you'll hear more disturbing details in coming days.
 
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rone said:
For those who waiting for military action, they going to be disappointed becoz neither China or India won't do any aggressive action becoz ot will escalate the issue further, so most likely going to happen is rants in twitter and talks on LAC to achieve normalcy, agi. Like 28th feb our reluctance to change sop and rules of engagement caused 20 lives this time, look at the Chinese mela weapon's they used i don't think it's a just clash it's preplanned one, if we do t change our mind set and roe we going lose more i. Future


Ps: am not a troll but if my criticism feel like one thats on u.
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The present intrusion itself will not be solved without force

And future intrusions will be stopped
With Force

Banner drills are dead
 
Sanglamorre said:
Won't their postings and standings hurt?
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No.

That's not how Administrative services are designed. You won't even know Indian Defence Secretary's name even when he holds immense power.

Sorry to rain on parade where we are manufacturing new enemies when we run out of blaming politicians, congress, army, communists and all by calling them dabba wala or whatever clownish names.

They don't stand to lose a damn thing if war breaks out infact they get elevated among peers, can sway emergency purchase for commissions and all.
 
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