ok guys stop falling for it. Looks like irrespective of the situation on the ground the contract should have been cancelled any way. Whom are these ppl fooling, document very clearly states that not much work was done since 2016. It should have been cancelled long time back. In fact we should fire the guys on why they dint cancel the contract when there was no progress.
Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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In 1969 China took on a nuclear super power over the Damansky island, they persisted with the attacks even though they got a beating from the soviets. Eventually China got back the island only after the collapse of the soviet union, but they had earned the respect of the Soviets and Americans. You cant become a great power until you are prepared to make sacrifices.
Babus are scrapping bottom of the barrel to find something to show as action.
Looks like I am back to 1999 -
Intel failure, reluctant to attack.
I agree, this is now becoming laughable.
But then, he or they probably get paid to do precisely this
Look at the pro BJP media, instead of asking govt tough questions, they are busy with their kangaroo shows attacking even sillier congresswallas.
Lets see how long they will man the ridge... Its not Tiger hill.. The chinese sitting over the ridge can be taken care ofif shots start being fired..
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we knew every thing they were doing but still did nothing. Well either we are totally incompetent to protect ourselves or absolutely careless.
chinese are doing a siachen on us. Need to force them out or it will set a dangerous trend.
Days after clash, China frees 10 Indian soldiers
Three days after clashes in the Galwan Valley of Ladakh left 20 Indian soldiers dead, the Chinese on Thursday evening released 10 Indian Army personnel, including a Lieutenant Colonel and three Majors, from their custody.
A security source told The Hindu that all 10 persons were released around 5 p.m. after an agreement was reached at the Major General-level talks on Wednesday evening and they were returned unharmed.
Separately, the Army clarified in a statement that there were “no Indian troops missing in action”.
‘Soldiers were armed’
In another development, External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar said the Indian troops, who were outnumbered and attacked by the Chinese side, carried arms.
“All troops on border duty always carry arms, especially when leaving post. Those at Galwan on June 15 did so. Long-standing practice (as per 1996 & 2005 agreements) not to use firearms during faceoffs,” Dr. Jaishankar said on Twitter, in response to a tweet from Congress leader Rahul Gandhi.
Article VI of the 1996 agreement between India and China on “Confidence-Building Measures (CBMs) in the military field along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China border areas” says, “Neither side shall open fire, cause bio-degradation, use hazardous chemicals, conduct blast operations or hunt with guns or explosives within two kilometers from the line of actual control. This prohibition shall not apply to routine firing activities in small arms firing ranges.”
Commenting on the 1996 agreement, former Northern Army Commander Lt. Gen. H.S. Panag said these agreements apply to border management and not while dealing with a tactical military situation. “Lastly when lives of soldiers or security of post/territory threatened, Commander on the spot can use all weapons at his disposal including artillery,” he said on Twitter.
The third round of talks at the Major General-level were held in the Galwan area. Specific outcomes from Thursday’s meeting were not immediately known, but a source said the talks were positive and there would be more meetings in the coming days. The effort was to reduce tensions on the ground and implement the consensus agreed on June 6 for de-escalation, the source added.
The Army had stated that both sides had disengaged from the site of the clash. However, both sides continue to retain a large number of troops in the general Galwan area following the build-up along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) after the violent scuffle at Pangong Tso on May 5 and the standoff since.
In the first combat fatalities in 45 years along the LAC, 20 Indian soldiers were killed in a clash after they were attacked by Chinese troops. About 80 Indian troops were also injured and all of them are said to be stable.
The Chinese PLA Western Theatre Command spokesman Senior Colonel Zhang Shuili said on Tuesday that the clash in the Galwan Valley had led to casualties on both sides, but so far China has not revealed the number of any dead or wounded.
The Foreign Ministers of the two countries held a telephone conversation on Wednesday in an effort to reduce tensions following the killing of the Indian soldiers
Three days after clashes in the Galwan Valley of Ladakh left 20 Indian soldiers dead, the Chinese on Thursday evening released 10 Indian Army personnel, including a Lieutenant Colonel and three Majors, from their custody.
A security source told The Hindu that all 10 persons were released around 5 p.m. after an agreement was reached at the Major General-level talks on Wednesday evening and they were returned unharmed.
Separately, the Army clarified in a statement that there were “no Indian troops missing in action”.
‘Soldiers were armed’
In another development, External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar said the Indian troops, who were outnumbered and attacked by the Chinese side, carried arms.
“All troops on border duty always carry arms, especially when leaving post. Those at Galwan on June 15 did so. Long-standing practice (as per 1996 & 2005 agreements) not to use firearms during faceoffs,” Dr. Jaishankar said on Twitter, in response to a tweet from Congress leader Rahul Gandhi.
Article VI of the 1996 agreement between India and China on “Confidence-Building Measures (CBMs) in the military field along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China border areas” says, “Neither side shall open fire, cause bio-degradation, use hazardous chemicals, conduct blast operations or hunt with guns or explosives within two kilometers from the line of actual control. This prohibition shall not apply to routine firing activities in small arms firing ranges.”
Commenting on the 1996 agreement, former Northern Army Commander Lt. Gen. H.S. Panag said these agreements apply to border management and not while dealing with a tactical military situation. “Lastly when lives of soldiers or security of post/territory threatened, Commander on the spot can use all weapons at his disposal including artillery,” he said on Twitter.
The third round of talks at the Major General-level were held in the Galwan area. Specific outcomes from Thursday’s meeting were not immediately known, but a source said the talks were positive and there would be more meetings in the coming days. The effort was to reduce tensions on the ground and implement the consensus agreed on June 6 for de-escalation, the source added.
The Army had stated that both sides had disengaged from the site of the clash. However, both sides continue to retain a large number of troops in the general Galwan area following the build-up along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) after the violent scuffle at Pangong Tso on May 5 and the standoff since.
In the first combat fatalities in 45 years along the LAC, 20 Indian soldiers were killed in a clash after they were attacked by Chinese troops. About 80 Indian troops were also injured and all of them are said to be stable.
The Chinese PLA Western Theatre Command spokesman Senior Colonel Zhang Shuili said on Tuesday that the clash in the Galwan Valley had led to casualties on both sides, but so far China has not revealed the number of any dead or wounded.
The Foreign Ministers of the two countries held a telephone conversation on Wednesday in an effort to reduce tensions following the killing of the Indian soldiers
exactly, we need shut our mouths first and work on enhancing our capability. Every time amit shah or rajnath singh spend humongous time to win some local elections it comes at the cost of national governance. These ppl are not growing up to national tasks but still stuck in petty politics.
really bad, govt claimed no one was missing now these ppl have been held captive.
if they dont win the petty politics, then the petty politicians will be at helm.
anyone remember mayawati's "we want 'majboor' govt at center" ??
the likes of mayawati, "netaji" - mulayam singh, Rahul - still want to play the petty politics.
as an opposition, they should be the first to say boycott chinese products and put pressure on the govt as to why they havent taken the step of boycotting chinese products.
we will soon hit the bottom of barrel, instead of setting high standards now they are competing with congress turds.
you need to put your best resources at the center to tackle governance. If modi or rajnath singh need to campaign in every stupid local election then leadership has failed to create leaders who can take it forward.
1 Lt. Colonel
3 Majors
6 Other soldiers
Stayed captive for 3 days and yet this man kept on with talks with CM.
From top to bottom, army to politicians, doing us proud, one captive at a time. Stayed 3 days in custody but bc nobody acknowledged.
I hope they didn't abduct Bipin Rawat himself and we find it tomorrow, or maybe COAS coming out of Chinese camp after serving them whole night.
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This explains a bit. Govt was trying to get those 10 out without further embarrassment. This is why Modi put the all party meet and address to the nation after a few days. God knows the deal made to secure their release.
Now they are back. We would have conceded something for their safe return. I am unsure of any military action in the short term. Maralo BC
Now they are back. We would have conceded something for their safe return. I am unsure of any military action in the short term. Maralo BC
Looks like there will be no retaliation.. Modi and Indian Army would have promised future good behavior by Army for getting the soldiers released..
So, this whole concept of patrolling an area without dominating it.. is leading to embarrassment
Let me know if Indian Army is able to patrol Galwan valley again.. I will admit that i am wrong..
a"source" told the hindu that 10 ppl were held captive.
what source? I have tons of sources that claimed 43 chinese were killed. ppl dont want to believe that unless corroborated by the chinese, but want to believe 10 of our soldiers were held captive.
did the army say their personnel were held captive?
After all those barbs and tirades against Nehru's alleged shortcomings as a leader, one would have thought that the BJP has learnt from Nehru's now well documented shortcomings on foreign policy front, particularly on China. You are right Modi and Nehru both were victims of their Hubris and self importance. Nehru perhaps could claim it was justified, but Modi. PM Modi is increasingly seeming 'cut to fit' that Nehru jacket. Life is full of ironies.
how do you know Modi and Army promised good behavior in echange of personnel released?
how do you know they were held captive in the first place
if you believe that from "sources" how do you react to 43 chinese being killed from "sources"
the usual rants and trying to justify Nehru. LOL. based on made up sources.
I pay as much attention to these news items as I paid to earlier ones regarding 45 chinese killed. Neither of them have any evidence and all sources are un-named.