Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

janme said:
This is from today from another source, it seems that it is true that we has lost control of finger 4.
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janme said:
The real question is that who is responsible for such a monumental failure?. Modi must take tough decisions now , Now is the real time to end the monopoly of OFB and other PSU's, if not now then when?. This is the least he could do for now.
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janme said:
Will it be wrong say that IA was the aggressor here and tried to change the status quo even though our infrastructure was less than satisfactory and Chinese were able to overwhelm us since they have better infra,it seems to me Chinese planned this properly and waited for 4 years in response to IA actions and executed it too and unwilling to budge now, isn't this a major blunder on part of Indian army?
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janme said:
@RISING SUN Chinese controlling area between F4 and F8 is not a big deal(yes it's a loss for us) , we only used to patrol it during winter time when there used to be no Chinese presence, now what has happened is that we have lost control of finger 4 too, if true then I think they have a direct line of sight to DBO road and also they will be able to dominate our positions too, Don't be surprised if we lose the remaining fingers in few years the same way.
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desperate bid here to claim that India lost finger 4 and can only patrol until Finger 2.

this by only believeing sources which say finger 2 is lost but there are a lot of sources to say IA dnt lose any positions. they went over to galwan valley on LAC side and dismantled chinese observation posts along with their semi permanent Tents.

but, hey, it doesnt matter. lets spread the news that we lost until finger 2 cos it fits someone's narrative.
lets not listen to any news on the contrary and keep harping on only those"sources" that say we lost finger 2.

and then lest build an entire narrative on how Modi lost Indian territory and who is to blame and what not.
 
randomradio said:
I haven't seen any information that the 72 Div has been raised for the MSC though. Or even if any other existing division has been connected to the MSC. I guess time will tell.
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MSC was created by reassigning the troops from sahayaks and new recuitment with transfer of experienced guys from other formation to make it a fighting fit unit.
 
S. A. T. A said:
PLA guys are at unfair disadvantage, the IA guys tower head and shoulder above their PLA counterparts.
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Well that tall guy was one of the reason this whole brawl started if you watch 5 min video. Hot headed Chinese met passive aggressive Indian who kept fingering PLA and both landed blows on each other, neither party was satisfied, they wanted more.

Sense prevailed and it was over. That's why arms were banned on LAC.

Classic case of fight between Aries and Scorpio, turned into fight between countries.:D
 
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vstol Jockey said:
There is differemce between LAC-Line of Actual Control and the Claim line. Our Claim line is as per our map. LAC is actual ground position on any particular date as no date hase been assigned to LAC. So it is a fluid line which can change any day. LOC is clearly demarcated as per 1972 Shimla Agreement but no such exercise was done for LAC ever.
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So why the resolution passed in Indian parliament of retaking the aksai chin was not fulfilled if the LAC is not a demarcated line.

See I told you, that PM Modi's statement ' no chinese inside Indian territory' will be picked and now it is. Al though no specific comments but we all know what MMS is pointing.
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_Anonymous_ said:
What do you mean by my so called act? Aren't you a citizen of this nation?
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I am showing you the line of the resolution passed. Did India ever work upon it? Resolution passed in Indian Parliament and the actions of Democratic Republic of India are contradictory to eachother.
_Anonymous_ said:
There's no LAC for unlike the LoC, it's not been demarcated on the ground.
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So? this means India could have easily gained some territory in Aksai Chin. And if it is not feasible what the point of resolution? LOL. Hawa baazi??
_Anonymous_ said:
Ditto for the Chinese. Since there's no LAC, both sides are either expected to maintain the status quo or seize more territory as China is obviously attempting to do.
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Who stopped India?? Any law?
_Anonymous_ said:
There's only the official map of India in which Aksai Chin is depicted as part of India which is under the administration of the PRC atm & which not only this GoI but it's predecessors & successors were / are obliged to retake just as they were / are obliged to retake PoK.
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That is exactly I am trying to write. There is NO LAC what India claims is Aksai Chin and Chinese are Inside Indian territory.
_Anonymous_ said:
So, please explain what's your definition of two versions of the LAC when there's no unanimity on the one that exists.
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I don't believe that there exist any LAC. Two version or three version are only temporary and verbal
settlements as per trust that they won't come in and you don't go to their posts.
TERRITORY which contradicts PM Modi's statement that they are not inside. I may understand what he actually meant, but these lines will be picked and it has happened.

_Anonymous_ said:
Why don't you read up a li'l instead of faffing out here & embarrassing us with your ignorance since you've clearly transcended that thick line between respectablity & ludicrousness long ago, without any trace of embarrassment or consciousness of it whatsoever? In rare cases, it's the sign of a realised soul. Then there's the likes of you & others of your ilk.
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What is there to read? When there is no agreement as such. Koi bhi kahin bhi ghu jaye baap ki zameen hai!
vstol Jockey said:
MSC was created by reassigning the troops from sahayaks
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Massive recruitment took place during 1962, 18-19 years old kids joined from all over Sikkim, Himachal, Uttarakhand , Ladakh, Arunachal and later became part of MSC.

And I am afraid similar will happen due to lethargy and in the end , kar chaley hum fida jaan aur tan sathiyo ab tumahre hawale vatan sathiyo( may God forbid)
 
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nair said:
I dont think they planned to kill a Col, Unless they were looking for a definite war, Sh!t happens in war, and even though we havent declared one, we were literally into one, so i dotn think they planned to kill CO, but ended up doing that.
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It makes no difference whether they intended to or not...

Point is moot.
As a soldier you have to be aware & discipline if paramount.
That Chinese soldiers took actions that lead to death of our Col, directly or indirectly, shows their lack of respect & discipline.

Either case, India is absolutely right in abandoning every rule of engagement, since Chinese have already abandoned it.

It's better India takes the aggressive approach here & continue to hammer Chinese...
CCP clowns think that they can frighten us with their shiny toys...unfortunately for them wars are not won by using shiny toys.

No need to fear these lizards, just swat them where you find them.
 
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