Keyword is said.In this case, it doesn't seem to be working. We have said that we won't be allowing any land to be gobbled up by the Chinese.
Keyword is said.In this case, it doesn't seem to be working. We have said that we won't be allowing any land to be gobbled up by the Chinese.
Keyword is said.
Abhinandan's capture was an event which happened way late in the chain. Most of the stuff that I mentioned happened way before.Abhinandan's Capture followed up by US's intervention did.
Because it hasn't till date? OR more precisely, it has been forced not to implement. Remember, we did sign a treaty with China in 1993 legitimizing LAC. Before it, it was never accepted. Funny thing : we didn't even demarkate what LAC is.What makes you think that IA will prevent it from being implemented in case of eventuality?
Abhinandan's capture was an event which happened way late in the chain. Most of the stuff that I mentioned happened way before.
Here is the bummer: Islamabad is within the artillery / unguided Rockets range from Indian LoC. Why do you think Pakistan is still able to dare operate inside Indian territory?I disagree. Indian OP was against a 'non-military' target. OP . SwiftRetort was an attempt to hit one of our military base.
That alone should have been enough as they had the intent to hit our army base. I cannot simply imagine why we didn't push through despite this.
And US intervention was the only thing that stopped it.
Here is the bummer: Islamabad is within the artillery / unguided Rockets range from Indian border. Why do you think Pakistan is still able to dare operate inside Indian territory.
Because it hasn't till date? OR more precisely, it has been forced not to implement. Remember, we did sign a treaty with China in 1993 legitimizing LAC. Before it, it was never accepted. Funny thing : we didn't even demarkate what LAC is.
Actually, it cuts both sides if used properly but thats not what is happening. LAC is moving closer and beyond Chinese claims.
Fear. You do terrorist attack and we drop rockets on your capital.What exactly will you achieve by using unguided artillery on Islamabad?
Umm... here is the trouble. If you accept Indian government's position, LAC is not defined. It is accepted but not defined. So entire point about where Chinese are is actually immaterial. Why? Because we didn't even claim where the LAC is. But for some reason we agreed to the concept of LAC.We cannot have this discussion without any proper definition of how much China crossed in this time vis-a-vis where they were as on February 2020.
LAC passes through finger-4. So where are the Chinese now?
Fear. You do terrorist attack and we drop rockets on your capital.
Has it happened? nope!
Plus Islamabad is one of the new cities in Pakistan. Why do you think they built it so near the border?
Umm... here is the trouble. If you accept Indian government's position, LAC is not defined. It is accepted but not defined. So entire point about where Chinese are is actually immaterial. Why? Because we didn't even claim where the LAC is. But for some reason we agreed to the concept of LAC.
Actually thats the crux of the matter. Proportionate response. Predictable response.Also, I don't think it is a viable option to drop rockets in Civilian areas unless it is war. We are not Hamas.
Just saying, that 7-day hospital crumbled and was sorta useless in a little while.Does not quite work like that. Blast pens, repair infra etc take way longer to build than say some shed to house coronavirus patients.
Problem is not S-400. Problem is Brahmos or Oniks P-800 is a hard target to kill. S-400 is really good against say taking out slow moving force multipliers like tankers and AWACS from a great distance. Especially of our western enemy. Or denying them to operate near border.
S-400 is really good against slow moving cruise missiles or ALCMs.
Brahmos is also not a cheap missile as compared to say Tomahawk. It was meant to take out ships and high value targets.
Actually thats the crux of the matter. Proportionate response. Predictable response.
Who says we are not in war with Pakistan? What does firing cannons and ATGM looks like? Peace? If it does then I guess our definition of Peace and War are not same as what rest of the world believes in. You define words based on reality not reality based on words.
Thats fun. What do you think will be definition of "peace" if adversary were capable of getting away with dropping bombs or sinking ship? That would be new peace for us.It is not peace, but a theatre (local) fight. A war is much broader. In case of war, you will not see only cannons and atgms in use. Our IAF & IN will participate. So will Pakistan's.
Oh well, easy come easy go.Just saying, that 7-day hospital crumbled and was sorta useless in a little while.
Thats fun. What do you think will be definition of "peace" if adversary were capable of getting away with dropping bombs or sinking ship? That would be new peace for us.
Remember me harping and belaboring about "setting the tempo of war". This is exactly what it is. Our adversary is setting the tempo of war with us. They are doing it for so long that we have decided to call ATGMs and Cannons are "normal" or "not-war" along our borders.
Remember, our adversory was 6-7 times smaller than us.
Now what will happen if the same adversory were 5-6 times bigger? I guess, what is happening now is the logical conclusion of that.
World milking India
This was suppose to happen. That's why there is an escalation
West is West! Brainy powerful and cool!
Sounds less and less like negotiations and more like doomed marriage counseling. There's nothing new to say, what the hell are they talking about even?!An update -
Hearing in India Today - Third round of talks might happen in Chushul either tomorrow or day after tomorrow.
Sounds less and less like negotiations and more like doomed marriage counseling. There's nothing new to say, what the hell are the talking about even?!
What a crap post. When some friendly country is giving high tech equipment, you are saying that they are milking us. Had they not provided meteor than India would have been saved from milking?
Did manmohan singg forgot it there or rajnath? You are NOT getting it for free.If true, I wont call it milking but helping at the right time.
Did manmohan singg forgot it there or rajnath? You are NOT getting it for free.
It is not about getting it for free, it is about getting it when we need it the most.