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Ladakh standoff: India, China agree to restart Galwan, Hot Springs pullback



Seems like new status quo being accepted by "India".

Official sources on Wednesday said “both sides emphasised the need for a step-wise de-escalation as a priority” during the 12-hour marathon meeting between 14 Corps commander Lt-General Harinder Singh and South Xinjiang (Topic in the News: All the latest news, videos, photos, topics and quotes from around the world /South-Xinjiang) Military District chief Major General Liu Lin at Chushul on Tuesday. This was the third such meeting since June 6.

As per the proposed disengagement plan, the rival troops will gradually move back 2.5 to 3 km in phases to de-escalate tensions at the face-off sites, which will be followed later by de-induction of the huge military build-up along the LAC.

Notice, no reference to return to status quo on April end OR resumption of Indian patrolling at position where we used to do before.

This is change is status quo. de-escalation and de-induction without reverting to status quo on April. Dabba shivering in full effect.
 
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I don't understand that why this is a prevalent thought among strategic community. The more Chinese show belligerence towards their neighbours the more their deeds of mishandling the COVID crisis would be reminded to the international community and more it will get united to target China. Only way through which Chinese have achieved this objective was by showing unprecedented kindness which of course they can't.

I've pointed it out before. As far as Western Europe is concerned, they are heavily depdendent on Chinese imports. The same with the US.

While the US will be able to make strategic decisions in favour of national security, Europe won't. The Europeans stay in power only if their economy is in control and Russia is in check. So an Indo-Pak war will give European leaders the excuse needed to shift the focus away from China instead.

What we need to do is lay low and keep the world focused on the COVID situation. The more the world speaks about COVID, the more pressure China is under. Right now is one of those rare moments when China is weak both internally and externally. So why help them? You are helping them a lot if you shift global focus away from COVID. Never do what your enemy wants you to do. It is also why Modi publicly only talks about the virus.

Which is why we need to do things that affect the LAC only, which is too small for the world to focus on beyond a few days. And we can make our own gains by repeating what China's doing elsewhere along the LAC, and it should be done very, very quietly. Naturally, we should use this chance to rid ourselves of Chinese technology investments in India.

COVID, COVID, COVID, China, China, China, the next 2 years must only be that in the front page of global newspapers. Right now the global focus should be on who gets vaccines first and how to punish China for their lies on COVID.

In the meantime, since our attitude with Pakistan has changed a lot, we can punish them with air strikes whenever we want to without risking war. Pakistan is no longer capable of fighting a war, so why help China by attacking Pakistan? Let them both attack us if they want to.
 
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If China can claim territories after several centuries , so can we

Every thing will be accounted for

At a time of our choosing
Let them both attack us if they want to.

A war with EITHER of them will quickly
Turn to a Two front war

So we too must have our alliances in place , it is as simple as that
 
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I've pointed it out before. As far as Western Europe is concerned, they are heavily depdendent on Chinese imports. The same with the US.

While the US will be able to make strategic decisions in favour of national security, Europe won't. The Europeans stay in power only if their economy is in control and Russia is in check. So an Indo-Pak war will give European leaders the excuse needed to shift the focus away from China instead.

What we need to do is lay low and keep the world focused on the COVID situation. The more the world speaks about COVID, the more pressure China is under. Right now is one of those rare moments when China is weak both internally and externally. So why help them? You are helping them a lot if you shift global focus away from COVID. Never do what your enemy wants you to do. It is also why Modi publicly only talks about the virus.

Which is why we need to do things that affect the LAC only, which is too small for the world to focus on beyond a few days. And we can make our own gains by repeating what China's doing elsewhere along the LAC, and it should be done very, very quietly. Naturally, we should use this chance to rid ourselves of Chinese technology investments in India.

COVID, COVID, COVID, China, China, China, the next 2 years must only be that in the front page of global newspapers. Right now the global focus should be on who gets vaccines first and how to punish China for their lies on COVID.

In the meantime, since our attitude with Pakistan has changed a lot, we can punish them with air strikes whenever we want to without risking war. Pakistan is no longer capable of fighting a war, so why help China by attacking Pakistan? Let them both attack us if they want to.

You have a point .
All we need to do is to donot allow Chinese to directly link to Karakoram pass through those areas.
Maintain a heavy military base there .
Use this opportunity to strengthen our industry and economy .
I think that us the exact thought of the Indian policy makers .
If China can claim territories after several centuries , so can we

Every thing will be accounted for

At a time of our choosing


A war with EITHER of them will quickly
Turn to a Two front war

So we too must have our alliances in place , it is as simple as that

For that we need to quickly reduce the gap with Chinese .
 
Control is 90% legitimacy

In international relations , Might is always Right

That is why China has put claims on so many neighborhood territories and SCS

Once our Military strength Gets
Sufficiently beefed up and a strong reliable International alliance is in place
We can Strike at will and initiate the conflict

That will take time


Taking back Haji pir in POK or Neelam Valley is a bigger priority for India
 
Ladakh standoff: India, China agree to restart Galwan, Hot Springs pullback



Seems like new status quo being accepted by "India".





Notice, no reference to return to status quo on April end OR resumption of Indian patrolling at position where we used to do before.

This is change is status quo. de-escalation and de-induction without reverting to status quo on April. Dabba shivering in full effect.
People have been yelling about this for weeks now seeing GoI overtures, but BJP political commissars (unpaid) in forums have shouted every objection down. What now?
 
What we need to do is lay low and keep the world focused on the COVID situation. The more the world speaks about COVID, the more pressure China is under.
Lemme ask you one thing, what makes you so sure that world will be able to pressurize China? So far China has scored two victories already : Annexing and removing democracy from HK and defeating India thoroughly without firing a single shot literally. What gives you confidence that world can "pressurize" china? Diplomatic pressure won't work. "Tawks" wont work.
 
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So the current status quo not accepted by us after the commanders meeting ? :unsure:


We must keep them busy and occupied in Pangong Tso

Dont let them feel that we have given up on Finger 8

Keep patrolling and troubling them
 
People have been yelling about this for weeks now seeing GoI overtures, but BJP political commissars (unpaid) in forums have shouted every objection down. What now?
My dear friend, you are making a mistake. Its not BJP-Congress. Those two variables have been switched. Its more fundamental. Its outside cabinet and within a box.
So the current status quo not accepted by us after the commanders meeting ? :unsure:

No, its much simpler. Its a precaution or a too little too late action to prevent futher deterioration. Its... well, to me, it appears a too late for a game kind of action. Time for this action was in May.... 2017.
 
Lemme ask you one thing, what makes you so sure that world will be able to pressurize China? So far China has scored two victories already : Annexing and removing democracy from HK and defeating India thoroughly without firing a single shot literally. What gives you confidence that world can "pressurize" china? Diplomatic pressure won't work. "Tawks" wont work.

Talks never work

Only strengths work

All of China' s neighborhood including INDIA is looking at US for help and support

This Game has just Begun

China' s AIM is to be WORLD number ONE power by 2049 ie when China will have 100 years of independence

So US China confrontation will only intensify from here onwards

We have to DO MORE on our part if we
Want an International Alliance to successfully defeat China
 
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COVID, COVID, COVID, China, China, China, the next 2 years must only be that in the front page of global newspapers. Right now the global focus should be on who gets vaccines first and how to punish China for their lies on COVID.
COVID is merely a one recent phenomenon. Does anyone remembers a Malamine in baby formula scandal from a long time back? China was not even that strong power back then. How much of impact happened? Ziltch!

Mark my words, all news paper can publish ONLY China China China Covid Covid Covid and nothing will happen. You friends will be buying RedMi even if you wont. My stupid MacBookPro will still be made in China.

Be ready, next year or may be later this year we will be talking about a change in status quo in Arunanchal Pradesh. Then Sikkim. Then Manipur. Then Assam. Then Himanchal. Then Punjab. And may be by 2030 (if you are still interested) we will be talking about how much India will loose in Gurugram or outskirts of Delhi.
 
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China' s AIMS are as follows

1 ) World No. one Superpower by 2049
By Displacing USA

2 ) Complete Supremacy in Asia by driving out USA

And making ALL Asian countries such as Japan , India , ASEAN and even Australia as Subordinate and Junior Partners who will gladly accept Chinese Authority and Supremacy

So that is why China keeps bullying all others in Asia

It is upto INDIA to strengthen ITSELF
And SPOIL all Chinese dreams