Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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The funny thing is that there is a GoI note of 1899 which alluded to accepting Aksai Chin part of China and Mr Nehru, our usual punching bag for all ills, actually claiming it
He earns my respect for this singular act .. and that of annexing NEFA respects to him for these atleast.
He wanted to DISBAND the Army
He.said that we need only a police force
He appointed his Relative Gen Thapar as COAS
He said this to Army Officials when they
Warned him of a Chinese attack on India
" COMMUNIST nations do not.attack other nations
You only take care of Pakistan"
He.was the.reason we had an idiot called Krishna Menon as Defence Minister
He did not care for Either Weapons or
Proper Footwear or winter clothing for our soldiers --.Jeep.Scam took.place in his tenure
He.was.too enamoured.by his image in Western Nations or.basically he wanted Nobel peace prize
So he was soft.on Pakistan and " Trusted" UK on Kashmir which then flipped around and started supporting Pakistan
Have you.Read C Dasgupta's.book on Kashmir
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These are some of.the immediate points which come to my mind as we still grapple with LoC and LAC
The map was put up by the British as part of a solution to Great Game. It was never put up by GOI. But yes, claiming Aksai chin upto Kunlun range was wrong as was putting whole of Aksai chin in Tibet. If we go by past records, even Mt. Kailash and Mansarover lake belong to India. As India is called Jambudweep and it has water all around it. Just look at how Sindhu and Brahmaputra provide us water on North, East and West while sea is on othersides. Even the `893 map of China has put whole of Aksai chin as the area belonging to Ladakh forming a part of Leh tehsil.The funny thing is that there is a GoI note of 1899 which alluded to accepting Aksai Chin part of China and Mr Nehru, our usual punching bag for all ills, actually claiming it
He earns my respect for this singular act .. and that of annexing NEFA respects to him for these atleast.
Those guys are ours in that pic.
Both the maps do not show whole of Aksai Chin as part of either empire. Moreover the logic of Chinese is that if ever in the past they ruled any part of the world, it is theirs even today. I have used the same logic about our claim to have watershed of Indua and Brahmaputra as the border.Aksai Chin was part of Silk trade route and was used by carvan passing from Tibbet to Xinjiang. There was no other land route to trade with Chinese empire. Read about Dzungar Khanate Empire, then Dalai Lama bestowing of title and then succession by Qing Dynasty empire of China. Maps are already there on internet, do check them if interested. Aksai Chin will be found inside those empires if you carefully check the maps.
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Sir, will you please elaborate on that? Seems to be new angle & piece of information. Thank you.The funny thing is that there is a GoI note of 1899 which alluded to accepting Aksai Chin part of China and Mr Nehru, our usual punching bag for all ills, actually claiming it
He earns my respect for this singular act .. and that of annexing NEFA respects to him for these atleast.
SureDei saamy....enna da idu?
Listen carefully the words used by ITBP jawans.
They are not heard anywhere across the Himalayas. Also why wd our guys hit our own guy? U are nuts if u assume that the injured one being protected by our officer is an Indian jawan to. Also, don't u see the uniform pattern?
Now call him American soldier and completely satiate ur drenched ego. Poda.
Well geniuses all over the world make claims to take in new territories but some Indian geniases make claims to let go of own territories.
Why don't they extend the same courtesy to their own family homes for a change. I am sure their neighbours would be more than interested .
Only those rule supreme who have the power to make and break rules to suit there needs , read Arthashastra for a change. edited mahatmagiri will not solve the problem it will increase it .
Historically we can lay claim upto Yunnan province using same logic which the Chinese use , but here some are hilariously doubting aksai chin lol
Heard of the story of the camel and the tent . Its high time people read it again.
Why don't they extend the same courtesy to their own family homes for a change. I am sure their neighbours would be more than interested .
Only those rule supreme who have the power to make and break rules to suit there needs , read Arthashastra for a change. edited mahatmagiri will not solve the problem it will increase it .
Historically we can lay claim upto Yunnan province using same logic which the Chinese use , but here some are hilariously doubting aksai chin lol
Heard of the story of the camel and the tent . Its high time people read it again.
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Like a true slave , cheering for your masters
We can actually claim whole of China upto Manchria. As per genome of chinese, they have Indian Y-chromosome in them. So they are people of our ethnicity and moved from India to populate China. Let us now publish a new map of India with whole of China as Indian Territory.
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We can actually claim whole of China upto Manchria. As per genome of chinese, they have Indian Y-chromosome in them. So they are people of our ethnicity and moved from India to populate China. Let us now publish a new map of India with whole of China as Indian Territory.
Peopling of China - Wikipedia
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Interesting
3 to 4 centuries preceding the Christian era, Hindu dynasties established by adventurers, claiming descent from the Kshatriya potentates of northern India, ruling in upper Burma, in Siam and Laos, in Yunnan and Tonkin, and even in most parts of southeastern China.
Among these colonies Tagong and upper Pugan were called Mayura, Prome was Sriksetra, Sen-wi (Theinni) was Sivirastra, Muang Hang, Chieng Rung and Muang Khwan were the three divisions of Ching Rung kingdom, which the prince of Yong, named Sunandakumara, united under Mahiyagananagara, Luang P’hrah Bang was Dasarna; Hanoi was Agranagara, Tagaung was Brahmadesa (P’o,o-men), where a Sanskrit inscription, dated in Gupta era 108 – 426 A.D. refers to Hastinapura, situated in that country; and, of course, Yunana was Purvavideha or Gandhara. Thus, from Arakan, where the Mrohaung inscriptions attest the efflorescence of Indian culture, language and literature, to Yunnan China.
Ruins of Hindu temples in Southeast China provided further evidence of Hinduism in China.
In the 6th century A.D. the Chinese royal family was Hindu for two generations. How many Indians know this ?
The following Tang dynasty (7th to the 9th century A.D.) also patronized both Hinduism and Buddhism because the latter was but a branch of Hinduism.
But self loathing and self defeatists Indians who can't read beyond books published by colonials and leftists with dubious agenda will scream nonsense .
But since such individuals like foreigners opinions so much , I leave this one for them
Hu Shih (1891-1962), former Chinese Ambassador to USA famously said "India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."
The biggest curse of Indians was not the foreigners but some of the Indians themselves who self loathed so much that they rather be slaves than stand up in support of their countrymen and their country. Nothing has changed till date .
70 years of so called independence we are still following history written by leftists and foreigners with an agenda . While the Chinese rewrote their history to suit their needs. Atleast we have the proofs , they don't even have them .
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Buddhism originated in India , i dont know why dont we use it for our benefits. Like forming an alliance of Dharmic countries.
We dont use our culture and heritage for our benefit
Religious based grouping is a double edged sword . Look at OIC
Better to stress on shared Indian cultural ties and historical past with emphasis on people to people bonding based on the same
GOI can't handle it's own territory. When Luytens Delhi is majority maintained by the British government till now in the name of heritage you can image the 'aukaad of Indian Government' can't even maintain it's capital. The property of President house is under viceroy territory and Elizabeth is the owner till now, they have spent the money in it's their design and they are maintaining it. The big players have hold on Indian leaders. Indian leaders comes with baggage so Indians should not expect anything big they can do. There are more Vibhishans and Jaichands in India.
Nehru has signed 'phansi ka phanda around India's neck from Delhi to North East, from J&K to Kanyakumari' with the lever of gallows in hand of Britishers. Under these circumstances, India can't do sh*t. The documents are with the Britishers, without their permission you can't change education in India, nor the Finance Ministers.
Any one who tries to bring new policies is shifted over night. This has happened in past. The revolution changes all this but there has been no revolution in India past 200 years. Puppet government and flawed constitution has been planted by British in India.
Indians should forget big dreams.
Me too wondering the same , could be unconscious too , but then why tied
Why the fuk the Indian army hid this ?
Has it become like the por...... army hiding casualties
Yeah, no idea. When our media reported this, we were quick to say that media is chinese puppet.
I wonder what was the rationale behind hiding this. Is our army consciously trying to avoid a full fledged conflict.
Found some interesting chinese forum discussing this.
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