Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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LAC, for all purpose and intent, is the area which India & China had under actual control as of 1993. Unfortunately the Chinese more or less achieved their claims wef 1962 itself.
For Army, it is to stick to GoI position, which is not necessarily translating to actual control over the ground due to decades of nibbling away under successive governments, both congress and non congress including BJP.
When you put up the special forces insignia, you should also put up the biggest take aways of SF training - practice, plan & patience.
Ladakh standoff: India-China military talks likely to focus on Pangong Lake clash, Chinese retreat in Galwan
The Lieutenant General-level talks are scheduled to take place on June 6 and are considered critical to end the deadlock. The Indian delegation will be led by Leh-based 14 Corp Commander.
According to this report China has retreated 2 km in galwan region.
I somehow do not trust Chinese. They will stay put but a bit back. Global times talked of an infiltration excercise. Most will call it bluff but I will take it seriously. PLA may have taken lessons from PA to infiltrate soldiers/terrorists even when a strong security grid is in position and the terrain across LAC has similar topography.Ladakh standoff: India-China military talks likely to focus on Pangong Lake clash, Chinese retreat in Galwan
The Lieutenant General-level talks are scheduled to take place on June 6 and are considered critical to end the deadlock. The Indian delegation will be led by Leh-based 14 Corp Commander.www-indiatoday-in.cdn.ampproject.org
According to this report China has retreated 2 km in galwan region.
hope patience does not turn to patient which needs treatment.When you put up the special forces insignia, you should also put up the biggest take aways of SF training - practice, plan & patience.
Our SFF had chinese squirming hope they still have their efficacy intact despite all uncertainty our politicians have thrown at it.
Some people call Chinese intrusion as Kargil
In Kargil , Pakistanis were FIRING ON OUR CONVOYS
Their aim was to stop our convoys and cut of the NH 1 from Siachen where our troops would have been Isolated
Here the Chinese are sitting and WATCHING quietly
While we keep Bringing Troops and Weapons to the front line
As long as they are only watching
We can not open Fire
In Kargil , Pakistanis were FIRING ON OUR CONVOYS
Their aim was to stop our convoys and cut of the NH 1 from Siachen where our troops would have been Isolated
Here the Chinese are sitting and WATCHING quietly
While we keep Bringing Troops and Weapons to the front line
As long as they are only watching
We can not open Fire
https://****/russian-envoy-to-india-meets-foreign-secretary-in-show-of-support-amid-lac-stand-off/
A Stalemate Favours India, Exposes Chinese Limits: Kanwal Sibal
India cannot withdraw from the Galwan valley, and if China refuses to budge from its new positions close to the LAC as a new pressure ...
Not the first time.
Chinkis are doing “infiltration exercises” to invade Taiwan,Japan, South Korea and Vietnam since ages. Not to forget India too
Allying with them like French should be encouraged. The French have the most free foreign policy among the U.S allies and they do their own expeditions in Mali and other countries. Actually getting close and getting some technology transfer in industry and defense should be done. But avoid any system that needs extensive U.S oversight like THAAD of f35 for the air force. Keep in mind I'm all for f35 for the IN cause it's the one branch that uses the most numerous of the Amreeki maal
It could be taken as a one view. But you could never be certain. For example after parliament attack there was clear cut intent to go for war and there was mobilisation for it. But it all turned into mere posturing. Now please don't reckon the reasons for it because that is exactly my point. You could never know when a posturing would turn into a war or a war mobilisation turn into mere posturing. It is true for this situation too, for various reasons.
I am not talking about what happens on the ground but what is the intent of our political and military leadership. Presently they don't have any intent to start the conflict. If you don't believe me then please ask more informed members of this forum. And due to this attitude they are never going to attack first even if our adversaries do a war mobilisation instead of posturing ( how could you differentiate b/w two is something I can't comprehend, I confess).
Our war fighting capability has nothing to do here. After 65 we always had it. Even a secret document of CIA admitted just after 71 war that we have enough military capability to effectively win a two front war. But we didn't took advantage of it due to reluctance of our leadership. That is true for present time too.
In present circumstances sir, we have the support of whole world to start a conflict with China, especially USA. But still we aren't doing it and letting them to increase their force level on our border. See?? The main problem is lack of pugnacity. We would always allow the enemy to attack first to attain a high moral ground ( for what purpose I don't know).
Well sir, I agree that CSD is to swiftly strike Pak before it could counter mobilise. But that would happen only if we have a clear cut intention of striking Pakistan. In a situation where both of our enemies were mobilising before us we would do only counter mobilisation instead of starting an invasion.
Chinese presently have enough troops to start a small skirmish and then they would have all the time to move their troops from inlands to the border thanks to their excellent infra. Plus the mobilisation is not halted and they are getting more and more aggressive for instance they tried to infiltrate in Sikkim yesterday.
Of course if China starts shooting then we will answer it with all our might. I am cent percent sure about our victory too. But then again it is same what I am saying that we would allow them to shoot. Because if we go by your theory then we should have attacked Pakistan by now.
Problem is, once PLAAF starts offensive against us then we would not have your 1 week and required resources to crush PAF.
The operation GAGANSHAKTI demonstrated our capability to quickly switch resources from Western border to eastern border and vice versa not what you have said which again proves the lack of resources required to crush PAF on one front and simultaneously holding against PLAAF on the other.
Yes, but we are not attacking see?
We won't do that. We lack the intent
You can't solely rely on firepower, because that's not the only thing which makes you win a skirmish, and those here who think it's ONLY military which wins a war, well they are fools. Big countries DO NOT engage in direct skirmish. They use third countries to shed their anger off. Simple Mahabharat trick. At least I expect professionals here to learn from their own scriptures before going outright when you have a doomed economy, pandemic all around and you are not sharing your part of pension or income knowing it will end up non-utilized as well. So before making big claims, ' hum yeh kardenge wo kardenge' look around you. There is a big social gap and one large scale skirmish will doom you to the core. What will India gain?
China has occupied all water resources in Tibet, they are thinking economically, and foolish military planners in India are thinking emotionally!! The lake in Aksai Chin , major area is within China, has any one ever thought why they are moving along the rivers and lakes? I am bl**dy damn sure, these foolish Indian military planners never thought so. They are just there to their 'moti buddhi'.
China will not stop at Aksai Chin, they are aiming for Nubra, Gangotri, , Upper Himalayas in Nepal and Glaciers in NE by using Pakistan to ruin Indian economy.
China has occupied all water resources in Tibet, they are thinking economically, and foolish military planners in India are thinking emotionally!! The lake in Aksai Chin , major area is within China, has any one ever thought why they are moving along the rivers and lakes? I am bl**dy damn sure, these foolish Indian military planners never thought so. They are just there to their 'moti buddhi'.
China will not stop at Aksai Chin, they are aiming for Nubra, Gangotri, , Upper Himalayas in Nepal and Glaciers in NE by using Pakistan to ruin Indian economy.
Gen Panag seems to be on fire at all ends. No one has peddlled as much fake news as this Officer alone.
In this article Lt Gen Panag says there are 7 intrusion points on the indian side of the lac in Galwan valley region.. If you look at his map, and compare it with Abhijit iyer mitra map from his article in print, you can see that Panag has marked the LAC further back, so that chinese positions are on Indian side.. Abhijit says as of now there is no intruison in Galwan valley region.Now where does the LAC really pass through in Galwan valley region. Can you find a GOI version of LAC in government website..
theprint.in
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India’s Fingers have come under Chinese boots. Denial won’t help us
The Modi government and the military have gone into ‘denial’ about loss of territory, attributing the present situation to differing perceptions about the LAC.
theprint.in
Chinese intrusion in Galwan lasted for two weeks before it was cleared by Indian troops
China has stopped or diverted the flow of Galwan waters, an action contrary to its assurance that it would not block waters of south and westward flowing rivers.
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