Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

What is going on guys?


 
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Chinese have acquired the features and India will keep negotiating. It's India's own weakness that everytime either due to some or the other helplessness India fails to take actions tactically. Let's wait what strategic actions India takes.
If India can't do anything on the east India should do it on the west.

If Chinese are worried about Karakoram, then India should take whole POK, then there won't be anything left for chinese to get connected to. But for years India will have to re-accumulate things to handle chinese because taking back POK will not be easy either.
 
janme said:
No one is going to give him real time updates, If he has been told about it today then it means that at the very least movement happened few days ago.
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Not talking about real-time updates. The point is heavy mobilisation has been done. Today PM met with President. Probably an indication of something coming up.
 
If the mobilization is complete we should just throw the Chinese out of the Indian territory or the grey zones. Fortune favors the brave - it is time for making some tough decisions. If they cannot throw them out and bare minimum grab some land at other places across the LAC. As I said earlier, no point going into negotiation meetings with a positive of weakness, go with a position of strength.

What could the PM and President meet today be about? Is national emergency an option in these challenging time?
 
Pankaj said:
If the mobilization is complete we should just throw the Chinese out of the Indian territory or the grey zones. Fortune favors the brave - it is time for making some tough decisions. If they cannot throw them out and bare minimum grab some land at other places across the LAC. As I said earlier, no point going into negotiation meetings with a positive of weakness, go with a position of strength.

What could the PM and President meet today be about? Is national emergency an option in these challenging time?
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I don't think emergency is going to be declared.
My guess, it is about the current border scenario.
Last time when they met, it was about abrogation of 370. If our mobilisation is done, it is possible that a decision has been taken to do the needful wrt one or both of our neighbours.

Next few days will be crucial and will show what way things are going to be.
 
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Pankaj said:
If the mobilization is complete we should just throw the Chinese out of the Indian territory or the grey zones. Fortune favors the brave - it is time for making some tough decisions. If they cannot throw them out and bare minimum grab some land at other places across the LAC. As I said earlier, no point going into negotiation meetings with a positive of weakness, go with a position of strength.

What could the PM and President meet today be about? Is national emergency an option in these challenging time?
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Modi has already shown one ball by visiting Ladakh. And from recent events it seems seems is about to show second one too. Have some patience. As we all know MSD likes to take their time before getting into action. We all can sense some intense foreplay for now.
 
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Pankaj said:
What could the PM and President meet today be about? Is national emergency an option in these challenging time?
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At the very least, Modi has far more reason get the President to declare Emergency than Indira Gandhi did.

But it's due to the COVID situation and bad economy that Emergency makes sense, not for the border situation. An Emergency would be required if there's a full scale war with China/Pakistan though, since nukes are in play.
 
shaxm said:
Modi has already shown one ball by visiting Ladakh. And from recent events it seems seems is about to show second one too. Have some patience. As we all know MSD likes to take their time before getting into action. We all can sense some intense foreplay for now.
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It is high time Chinese lizards are shown their place. Yes it is a God sent opportunity to revenge for 1962 and take back what was rightfully ours. We also asked Pakistan to vacate our territory -

 
Remember those 10 hours long negotiations?


Its one thing to keep talking for months, another to keep talking for 10 -11 hours back to back. IIRC it has never happened before at least with Chinese, the fact that they were party to it points to putting forth of some stiff conditions by us.

It is entirely possible, that chinis were given limited options to either ship out or be ready to be shipped out. Timeline for the same could (or not) have been highlighted. This explains the ongoing buildup from both sides, along with simultaneous talks to defuse the situation.

IMO chinis are still hoping to keep the gains they have made either by intimidation or by prolonging the discussion hoping to tire the Indians. This is the situation so far, the question is what comes next.

I have a nagging feeling that chinis want to get out of it without firing a shot and could it be US who are forcing them to either withdraw publicly or face a conflict?

Modi has already thrown a gauntlet by very publicly mentioning

1. Ladakh is the forehead of India
2. Age of expansionism is over
3. Expansionist powers were forced to turn back

This is as good a challenge if I ever saw from Indian political class. Makes me think we have barely scratched the surface of what's going on beneath the surface.

In the evergreen words of @vstol Jockey : Kahani bohot hi alag hai bhaiyo
 
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vstol Jockey said:
We might intrude into someother part to create a counter for negotiations. This is what Chinese did in 1962. they used to surround ourfoces/pickets and than force a withdrawal or battle.
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Even with all the preparation China has done, there should be a lot of places available for Indian occupation as well.

But the issue is if they don't vacate and we don't vacate, then we will end up with a new normal and convert the LAC into LoC. We should avoid that for sure.

I suppose if we do take action, it's only after the new vaccine is in circulation. So it could even be September.
 
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randomradio said:
Even with all the preparation China has done, there should be a lot of places available for Indian occupation as well.

But the issue is if they don't vacate and we don't vacate, then we will end up with a new normal and convert the LAC into LoC. We should avoid that for sure.

I suppose if we do take action, it's only after the new vaccine is in circulation. So it could even be September.
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I have said it earlier too that any action by us during the Monsoon season is highly unlikely. For me the current posturing is to prevent any pre emptive strike by Chinese through showing them that we are prepared for any eventualities. PM's visited Laddakh for the same reason. We are biding our time for sure but we can't show it openly to our enemy. Hence the aggressive attitude.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
We might intrude into someother part to create a counter for negotiations. This is what Chinese did in 1962. they used to surround ourfoces/pickets and than force a withdrawal or battle.
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It is said that Ajit Docal gave an assignment to Dy NSA Khanna to make a roadmap to liberatePOK. Khanna sir has completed his assignment and submitted the plan to Dovsl sahab.
 
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