LOC Flare up: Related news and Discussions
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That is not the point, People who actually have info that is not public have never divulged it unless the forces/development agencies/MEA/Political leadership made such info public, while these so-called "Osint" are promoting not just un-disclosed stuff at some point but also peddling unsubstantiated news. This is extremely counterproductive.
Oops, hellfire getting the heat, beware don't get into the crosshairs of him, have seen couple of guys up into smokes
No it is not counter productive
You might have heard of Christine Fair
She has said " If Pak Army looses Public support , then they will be discredited and
Defeated "
That is why we are doing this
They started this Perception Battle in February
We are only taking it forward
The serious minded Pakistan people will Investigate how much PA has been lying to them , and that will become the cause of the PA loosing face inside Pakistan
Big difference between Ms Fair and the OSINT phonies on twitter.
Ms Fair is a researcher, and her columns, her books, her papers are all backed by proper research and substantiated sources.
Now as far as discrediting Pak Army;
If you hand a staggering defeat resulting in the unliteral surrender of Pak Fauj, guess what it's not going be discredited? instead, it's noose around the neck Pakistan will just get stronger and you will have another General ruling for a couple of decades.
Also there are no serious-minded people in Pakistan, they are either killed, discredited and made to flee the country or have a barrel pointed at thier head to get their story in line with GHQ pindi. Remember how many bullets were pumped into Hamid Mir and watch how he has fallen in line.
You are underestimating the
Resource -fullness of Pakistani people to find out the truth
My reading of PDF is that while they put on a united And Brave face publically by defending their Brave forces , at the same time they privately discuss the Setbacks , Failures of Pak Army as well as express
Anger over how the Affairs of the state are
Being managed by them
They are bloody hypocrites who.will
Not look weak before India
Now what will hasten PA' s downfall
We have to defeat them in POK
But the thing is this.
We want PA to ACCEPT A settlement on Kashmir
This will happen.when the Twin PINCERS.
of Indian military and domestic.revolt will happen
Why was Ghafoor forced to tweet
That is.because OSINT handles raised such
A ruckus that Pakistan People were talking of Neelam valley gone
It was these OSINTS who.set this in motion
A cascading effect
Now if these things happen again and again.
And on a larger scale PA is finished domestically
But Militarily we will have to advance.further
Then there will be a Crisis in Pakistan
Because loss of Territory cannot be hidden
For long
And Pak Army will be forced to "Settle Kashmir "
I have read in PDF , that slowly.Pak.Army.will
Formalise the LOC and present it as success
How much Territory we can.gain
Depends.on what happens. In the Next conflict
You are partially right here, Pakistani knows the truth about their army, maybe not the kids but general public knows very very well about their 'bravery'
They don't need ball by ball commentary, though everything has its audience.
Ms Fair is a Jerk , I have.seen her behavior recently
But a Broken clock is Right Twice a Day
You are partially right here, Pakistani knows the truth about their army, maybe not the kids but general public knows very very well about their 'bravery'
They don't need ball by ball commentary, though everything has its audience.
The Last Three setbacks which have hurt the Pakistan establishment and Pak Army in Particular are
1 Failure to Act after 370 removal
2 Osama Killing
3 Kargil defeat
Now the Biggest blow will be when Indian military officially announces that it
Has captured Territory in POK
Then.they will open back channel talks for a face saving exit
I Have read all the statements by Hellfire Sir
And Babaji Gang
Babaji Gang has the Blessings of Doval
Some body in NSA office has set this in motion
Because that is why they are aggressive and relentless
The way the Pakistan military converted Feb 27 into a victory was an eye opener for Govt
Hellfire Sir wants them ie OSINT handles to be circumspect
But they are only following a New policy
Now the Voices of protest will now only grow louder in Pakistan
Pak Army calls its own people as
Bloody Civilians
These Bloody Civilians will bring them down
We have to push them hard from our side
Bloody Civilians
These Bloody Civilians will bring them down
We have to push them hard from our side
It is going to be a long battle
And it will spill over on the IB and other services will get involved
There are other important variables like Trump' s victory and FATF
The Govt assertion that POK will be taken is necessary to silence the Pro Pak lobby
Inside India
And it will spill over on the IB and other services will get involved
There are other important variables like Trump' s victory and FATF
The Govt assertion that POK will be taken is necessary to silence the Pro Pak lobby
Inside India
If he is doing it on behalf of top govt, then why did Army reject the claims of opening up fences??
Because we are not going for a Large Scale
Invasion
Opening the Fences implies Storming the LOC , which wont happen soon
Right now these are Salami Slicing tactics
Make them run away and advance slightly ahead even if it is by a Few hundred metres
Then open another sector after a few days
We are also observing how they Resupply
And Send Reinforcements from
In a Real war the Rear areas have to be hit hard to make it untenable for the forward troops
It is foolish to think that removing fences for invasion. If we need to invade with army, the fence will stop us so that it has to removed earlier?
Some were relocated and let alone when the formations desisted from targeting own MOSTs, posts and ambushes to facilitate the ingress. Others, could not be reoccupied.
Please understand that these posts are all temporary in nature. Usually there are secondary defences to which one withdraws when a fire assault starts. And inspite of the volume of fire, actual casualties are surprisingly light. Due to the nature of the defensive formations.
Indian official stance, as outlined by the Government of India to all the stakeholders, officially, is that the dispute is a bilateral issue to be solved between the two under the framework of the Shimla Agreement 1972. For the same to take place, an atmosphere of peace and calm needs to be in place, again as per the spirit of Shimla Agreement of 1972. For that, Pakistan must stop supporting terror.
Let me know if this policy has changed to ... we will occupy PoJ&K militarily.
Cheers
Who cares? Didnt I maintain that Akhnoor Dagger is not taken and merely forward locations cleared off? This when Baba was getting more followers per hour over his wild claims than I have right now in Twitter? And didnt he back down from same claim later?
Intel Monk has withdrawn from criticizing me ... guess why! And I will not be found criticizing him
As for the frontalfire, @nair is aware why he blocked me ... because I blew holes into some fanboy posts made almost a year back ... and he was named as his post asking for support for OSINT handles against journalists calling out the fake news of capture of a village was viewed by me as a support to the news. Didnt know he had made a post calling it fake himself. A mistake on my part
As for MajorShailender ... self explanatory.