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^^We are ahead of the Chinese in terms of Logistics and Land Power too.

@Innominate

You lost in Vietnam mate! No amount of your propaganda will ever change that. You sound like a Pakistani who believe they won all wars against India, despite their backside getting kicked by us, every single effin time:ROFLMAO:
I see I'm dealing with a child minded fool like your twin. Absolutely ignore the facts and details how the north took control of the South.

Now to smack some reality... China doesn't see you Indians as their equal when it comes to conventional military. You are their Pakistan and pose a serious distraction but not a military threat in the air and sea. China has built their military to take on the US so much so that they have copied the US in many areas of their military and even then the chicom military doesn't stand a chance against the USN, USAF and all its ISR support.
I think there is a universal blindness. When it come to seeing the situation, without nationalistic, tribal pride.


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He's becoming like Anonymous. This guy boast the MKI and its future variant as almost its equal so it really tells you where he is mentally.
 
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Let's hope hlft-42 becomes a reality.
Unless there is a massive reason that Tejas two seater variant can not be used in this role, I do not see why we want one more project from the scratch. Just darn re-use Tejas, modify its stupid fly by wire to simulate all sorts of conditions and call it a AJT.

BUT MAN! Everytime I hear 24-25 years for a IJT... I do not know, I just want to smack someone in face. Its like watching your beloved go old... single... but from far.
 
I see I'm dealing with a child minded fool like your twin. Absolutely ignore the facts and details how the north took control of the South.
You lost buddy, accept it:)
Now to smack some reality... China doesn't see you Indians as their equal when it comes to conventional military. You are their Pakistan and pose a serious distraction but not a military threat in the air and sea. China has built their military to take on the US so much so that they have copied the US in many areas of their military and even then the chicom military doesn't stand a chance against the USN, USAF and all its ISR support.
It doesn't matter what Chinese think. Indian army is as large as PLA. And in mountain warfare, IA is ahead of PLA.
He's becoming like Anonymous. This guy boast the MKI and its future variant as almost its equal so it really tells you where he is mentally.
MKI will never become a 5th gen. But we are upgrading it to fight J-20 in a defensive war. Whether I am right or wrong, time will judge. You, Hydra and Optimist can have your opinion, I could care less!
 
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I don't know what you mean by the USN winning. Regardless of whether the USN/USAF win, as long as the Chinese create a lodgement in Taiwan, ie gain a foothold that would allow more troops to come in, then it's over for Taiwan, possibly even the allied forces trapped on the island, who will either be killed or taken prisoner for negotiations. Both PLAAF and PLAN can lose their battles and China could still win. The victory condition is set in stone here. Whoever controls Taiwan in the end wins.
I dunno, what do you define winning in a war? I guess I'd define it as sinking the enemy navy, but I leave the definitions up to you. If USN blasts through the PLAN and PLAAF after the lodgment or during. Then the USN can simply retake Taiwan.
The navies and air forces of both sides merely have supporting roles. It's the ground forces that have to win. Both the US and Taiwan have settled on the porcupine defence strategy and that's ground-forces specific.
Porcupine for Taiwan, what's the USN/USAF strategy?
In terms of long range fires, the Chinese have both the US and Japan beat. Plus the Chinese have lesser targets to hit in comparison. It's just a few islands versus the entire Chinese mainland. But yeah, and 2 missile families come to mind. The JASSM family and Taiwan's HF family. The JASSM can hit PLAN in their bases and ports while short range HF series can make short work of whatever ships are caught in the Taiwan Strait. The JASSMs would be delivered by bombers.
While it's true Japan would suffer, the key bomber assets for long range strikes would be outside of China's effective range. Long flight + long missile range.
What Taiwan needs is allied troops presence, both American and Japanese. And lots and lots of ammo. Once war starts, it will be practically impossible to supply ammo and weapons to Taiwan. The same with reinforcements. So whatever Taiwan has at the start is what they are gonna have to fight with. While their inventory is quite sizable, it's unclear if it's gonna be enough.

So--

Right now, the US and Japanese are working on increase stockpiles outside Taiwan so it can all be supplied before start of war. Of course, that could include stationing their troops as well. The Pinoys were making a lot of noise about it though, 'cause they suddenly realised they are gonna get dragged into the war too. :ROFLMAO:

I think Taiwan will be fine. Realistically there's no way some extra ground troops is gonna make a difference against air and naval superiority.

I would compare the situation most closely to Guadalcanal campaign and Midway. The Marines held the perimeter at the canal, but it was the USN, Airforce, and carriers that held the island. Them failing would mean the Marines getting wiped out. It is true the naval and air campaign would have been lost if the ground campaign was lost on the canal, but the difference is the ground air base played a huge role. Taiwan isn't gonna be super relevant for air bases or something. Japan is though.
 
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Manpower, land power, logistics and geography, these are in our favour.

Our access to natural resources is from the outside world, China is also reliant on outside sources, but can be blocked more easily.

Geography gives the air power advantage to India. Even the US doesn't yet have the ability to circumvent this problem, never mind the Chinese.

Naval power isn't a real factor in a border war.

Financials? I'm pretty sure we will have significant backing of the West when it comes to that.

So, with the exception of naval power, we have the advantage everywhere else when you actually sit down and look at the details.
 
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Manpower, land power, logistics and geography, these are in our favour.

Even if true it means nothing when PLAAF will control the skies.
Our access to natural resources is from the outside world, China is also reliant on outside sources, but can be blocked more easily.

Blocked by whom? India? I don't think so. A Sino-Indian conflict it will be the chicom navy that will be sailing around the Indian Ocean
Geography gives the air power advantage to India. Even the US doesn't yet have the ability to circumvent this problem, never mind the Chinese.

You will be fighting a nation with squadrons of J-20s the IAF has no advantage in the air IAF air support, CAP and ISR aircraft keep getting shot down
Naval power isn't a real factor in a border war.

"Border wars" are never contained at the border targets deep inside nations get hit so navies will play a big part but just the chicom navy.
Financials? I'm pretty sure we will have significant backing of the West when it comes to that.

Maybe but the cost will be very high and India won't have a choice but to become dependent on satan himself... US.
 
I dunno, what do you define winning in a war? I guess I'd define it as sinking the enemy navy, but I leave the definitions up to you. If USN blasts through the PLAN and PLAAF after the lodgment or during. Then the USN can simply retake Taiwan.

Total destruction of the enemy would mean defeat for China, but I think the war will be over long before it happens.

The first agenda of the day would be to secure the air. If the Chinese take the air over Taiwan in a few days of fighting, then the war would pretty much be over. And if enough Chinese troops make it across and take Taiwan, the USN can't simply retake Taiwan, the US would need a million plus troops and lots and lots of boats, WW2-level numbers. In this day and age, the reverse would be impossible to contemplate.

Porcupine for Taiwan, what's the USN/USAF strategy?

It's believed that Chinese artillery will prevent effective use of Taiwanese air fields. So all of Taiwan's air power will have to come in from US and Japanese carriers and Japanese islands. On that note, I have always been a fan of Taiwan operating a few squadrons of F-35Bs.

So, if the Chinese take the air and enough of the invasion force lands and sets up, I think that would end things regardless of how well the USN performs. And the USAF will have a very hard time crossing the water to fight, while keeping those tankers alive.

While it's true Japan would suffer, the key bomber assets for long range strikes would be outside of China's effective range. Long flight + long missile range.

The damage to Chinese mainland infrastructure will be massive, no doubt about that. But I guess the US will limit itself to military targets, apart from ports, trains and airports.

I think Taiwan will be fine. Realistically there's no way some extra ground troops is gonna make a difference against air and naval superiority.

I would compare the situation most closely to Guadalcanal campaign and Midway. The Marines held the perimeter at the canal, but it was the USN, Airforce, and carriers that held the island. Them failing would mean the Marines getting wiped out. It is true the naval and air campaign would have been lost if the ground campaign was lost on the canal, but the difference is the ground air base played a huge role. Taiwan isn't gonna be super relevant for air bases or something. Japan is though.

China has the same advantage over the US as India has over China. Geography. So while China is near-peer to the US generally speaking, I think the terrain nullifies most of the American advantages. For example, you already understand the distance problem for the USAF. The USN has another problem, where its massive SSN fleet is not practical in the Taiwan Strait 'cause its depth is less than 50m. So, submarines should be easily detectable there.

And while the US has strategic superiority in long range fires, with continental bomber bases, the Chinese have a tactical superiority. One can imagine them to have 2-3x the number of tactical missiles versus the US. This would allow them to constantly keep up the pressure on USN ships close to shores. And this could become quite overwhelming on the first 3 days.

To top that off, the Chinese have this new rocket artillery like the HIMARS called the PHL-16, but with a 300Km range and each truck can carry 8 of these. That's an insane amount of long range massive fires capable of enveloping all of Taiwan.

So, any way you look the Chinese have a massive firepower advantage over the US. Even if the US keeps Taiwan, I don't think there's gonna be enough of a Taiwan left in the end. It's also unclear how many of the Taiwanese will actually survive and how many may decide to leave for good. So a total destruction of Taiwan would mean a Chinese victory, which is much more likely to happen.
 
Even if true it means nothing when PLAAF will control the skies.

China currently lacks the means to control the skies over Tibet. The IAF has the tactical advantage, meaning we can do everything they can do plus we can bomb them.

Blocked by whom? India? I don't think so. A Sino-Indian conflict it will be the chicom navy that will be sailing around the Indian Ocean

We have a navy too, dude. And China's blocked by Indonesia and Malaysia, like, physically. They have to come in through chokepoints that India can protect. And whatever navy makes through those chokepoints cannot be supported by mainland China yet. They will get stranded. So the PLAN is not that much of a factor at this time.

You will be fighting a nation with squadrons of J-20s the IAF has no advantage in the air IAF air support, CAP and ISR aircraft keep getting shot down

They don't have it yet. What the Chinese can use against the US, they can't against India. Tibet is way too high and engine tech is yet to reach that potential. The threat is there, but it's still manageable due to the terrain. Also, the IA has been designed to be able to fight with minimal air power. Even top-level NATO officers have praised the IA HQ's survivability compared to NATO HQs. Plus the Himalayas help.

"Border wars" are never contained at the border targets deep inside nations get hit so navies will play a big part but just the chicom navy.

There is no advantage for China to do that unless the US is thoroughly defeated and pushed back into the Eastern Pacific.

Chicom navy first needs to beat the USN. Or Chicom navy needs to build up its numbers to the extent it can take on both the USN and IN at the same time, and that's at least 20 years away from happening.

Maybe but the cost will be very high and India won't have a choice but to become dependent on satan himself... US.

It won't be to the extent you think. We will raise debt on our own, but the money that will come in from the West will be in the form of aid. Yeah, there's gonna be some back-scratching on both sides, but not to the point of dependency. Fighting a common enemy brings in far more equality than you think. Of course, if it devolves into a new world war, and assuming our side wins, you can expect power balance to shift to India because it will be our troops occupying most of the Chinese territories.

Stuff like that happening is 20 years away. But today, any Sino-India war will be far too small and localised. Neither side has the ability to do more than that. And if war devolves into the one happening between Russia and Ukraine, that's more manpower heavy than finances heavy. I doubt the Chinese have the stomach for that.
 
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Chicom navy first needs to beat the USN. Or Chicom navy needs to build up its numbers to the extent it can take on both the USN and IN at the same time, and that's at least 20 years away from happening.



It won't be to the extent you think. We will raise debt on our own, but the money that will come in from the West will be in the form of aid. Yeah, there's gonna be some back-scratching on both sides, but not to the point of dependency. Fighting a common enemy brings in far more equality than you think. Of course, if it devolves into a new world war, and assuming our side wins, you can expect power balance to shift to India because it will be our troops occupying most of the Chinese territories.

Stuff like that happening is 20 years away. But today, any Sino-India war will be far too small and localised. Neither side has the ability to do more than that. And if war devolves into the one happening between Russia and Ukraine, that's more manpower heavy than finances heavy. I doubt the Chinese have the stomach for that.
Why would Chinese Navy fight USN in an Indo china war? Does India had any security pact with USA?
Answer is no. Do US willingly get in to the conflict? Answer is no. Because of two reason, 1st, we never bothered to keep US in our side, i do agree that USA had a rabid attitude towards india for decades, thanks congres & Nehru's stupid policy. But this was not the reality since 123 agreement, but we give a damn towards US the current illegal war of Russia on Ukrain. Why would they help such a country who repeatedly gave unprecedented support to a Chinese vassal state even on wrong doings? 2nd, China is a nuclear state with autocratic government.
 
Pretty much saying that F-35's current E/Cyber-Warfare is very advanced and blk4 will put it in a whole different realm. Not only that but US military as a whole EW capability is very advanced and pretty much unstoppable.

They've been ahead of the game for a while...

In an interview with The War Zone in 2022, Col. Josh Koslov, commander of the Air Force's 350th Spectrum Warfare Wing, had the following to say about cognitive electronic warfare:
"Cognitive EW is definitely something that is a real thing. The Air Force has been doing it for a while. It's not new, it's just becoming more broadly well-known."
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"There is a potential for a buzzword aspect to that phrase. I don't want to have lexicon battles, but what I do need is a mindset that I can develop technology that says it looks like a duck, it smells like a duck, it's in bad-guy land, so I'm going to use this effect against it in order to be as quick as possible because all future fights are about speed. That's what I have to be able to do. If we're going to call that cognitive, that's fine. If we're going to call that algorithmic, that's fine. But at the end of the day, what I need to do is be rapid."

The Air Force stood up the 350th Spectrum Warfare Wing in 2021 to be a focal point for the service when it comes to all things in the electromagnetic spectrum, including electronic and cyber warfare. The Wing's 350th Spectrum Warfare Group is specifically responsible for providing reprogramming support for various electronic warfare systems, including ones belonging to U.S. allies and partners.


Chicoms had a small taste of US EW capability.

How Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan set off a new wave of US-China electronic warfare​

Chinese and the US forces were locked in a reconnaissance and electronic warfare tussle in the lead-up to and after US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan, according to military sources and defence analysts.

But not all of it was successful, according to sources close to the Chinese military.

State broadcaster CCTV reported the Chinese military used naval and air forces in multiple locations to conduct "full tracking and surveillance" against the US Air Force transport aircraft flying Pelosi and her delegation from Kuala Lumpur to Taipei on August 2.


The tracking was aimed at "deterrence", the report quoted PLA Major General Meng Xiangqing, from the PLA National Defence University, as saying.

However a source said the People's Liberation Army's tracking efforts - which involved jets and Type 055 destroyers - failed.

"The PLA deployed some electronic warfare aircraft such as the J-16D and warships to try to locate Pelosi's aircraft, but were not successful," the source said.

"Almost all the PLA electronic warfare equipment couldn't work properly because they were all jammed by electronic interference by the American aircraft strike group sent by the Pentagon to escort her."

On the flight, Pelosi's aircraft took an unusually circuitous route by heading southeast towards the Indonesian part of Borneo, then turning north to fly along the eastern part of the Philippines.

He Yuan Ming, an independent airpower analyst, said it was not surprising that the Chinese vessels did not detect the flight.

"Even if the Type 055 (destroyer's) radar is said to be 500km (310 miles), its effective range in the real world would be much less," He said.

"Couple this with the vast operating area as well as the Type 055's relative newness both in terms of its hardware (capabilities) and software (crew), there should be little surprise that the PLA (naval) cruiser could not locate (Pelosi's plane)."

Pelosi's trip was followed by a series of unprecedented PLA war games encircling Taiwan.

On the second day of the exercises, the US sent at least seven reconnaissance and early warning aircraft to waters near Taiwan, according to the Beijing-based South China Sea Strategic Situation Probing Initiative.

The deployment included a RC-135V and RC-135S for missile surveillance, three P-8A maritime anti-submarine planes, three E-3G spy jets and one U-2S high-altitude monitor plane, supported by six KC-135 refueling aircraft.

Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of Canada-based Kanwa Asian Defence, said that with its technology it was very likely that the American navy realised that the PLA had deployed submarines to waters off Taiwan, despite silence on both sides over the involvement of the vessels in the war games.

The first source said electronic warfare between the PLA and US military went back to the 1995-96 Taiwan Strait crisis when American forces jammed almost all the PLA's military radar systems during its missile tests.

"That's the key reason that prompted China to develop its own BeiDou Satellite Navigation System," the source said, adding that both sides were keen to size up the other's strength in the area.

"Both China and the US wanted to examine each other's electronic warfare capabilities this time. The PLA is especially keen to make sure its technology is strong enough to cope with a possible Taiwan contingency."

The problem with non US/western nation folks who think they are learned in military warfare never ever consider the importance and capability of US EW/Cyber warfare in a war against a big military nation under high-tech conditions. They don't understand so they dumb it down to hardware vs hardware and kinematics or how big a radar is almost never including the most important part of warfare... superior battle space picture.

That fact that the US denied the chicoms the ability to track a non-stealthy aircraft shows the US is in a whole other level in warfare. US denied chicoms most powerful warship with a powerful antenna the ability to track Pelosi's plane knowing full well the likely flight path.

Chicoms have no clue what is waiting for them if and when they decide to attack Taiwan and face off against US military.
 
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What @Innominate doesn't understand is that India's strategy against PLAAF won't be of a direct confrontation, but just to deter them attacking our Army. And we know that our Army is good enough to kick PLA's backside over the mountains.

Plus, small size jets like Rafale, M-2000, Tejas are going to be extremely effective over the mountains playing the hide and seek game. Once Astra-2 becomes operational by next year, even Su-30MKI tagged with IACCS network and our SAMs like S-400/MRSAM is going to push PLAAF back.

Indian Army is good enough to crush any other army of the world head-on. Period.
 
What @Innominate doesn't understand is that India's strategy against PLAAF won't be of a direct confrontation, but just to deter them attacking our Army. And we know that our Army is good enough to kick PLA's backside over the mountains.

Plus, small size jets like Rafale, M-2000, Tejas are going to be extremely effective over the mountains playing the hide and seek game. Once Astra-2 becomes operational by next year, even Su-30MKI tagged with IACCS network and our SAMs like S-400/MRSAM is going to push PLAAF back.

Indian Army is good enough to crush any other army of the world head-on. Period.
What a wonderful, fantasy world you live in.

We see you down low, trying to hide.

As well as AEW&C, you can also add, space based radar and sensors

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Why would Chinese Navy fight USN in an Indo china war? Does India had any security pact with USA?
Answer is no. Do US willingly get in to the conflict? Answer is no. Because of two reason, 1st, we never bothered to keep US in our side, i do agree that USA had a rabid attitude towards india for decades, thanks congres & Nehru's stupid policy. But this was not the reality since 123 agreement, but we give a damn towards US the current illegal war of Russia on Ukrain. Why would they help such a country who repeatedly gave unprecedented support to a Chinese vassal state even on wrong doings? 2nd, China is a nuclear state with autocratic government.

USN won't fight PLAN in a war with India, PLAN needs to cater to the presence of the US, Japan and Australia, especially in the SCS. They can't simply get up and leave their pond to come fight with India.

The US with 200 ships in the Pacific and Japan and Australia combined with 200 more ships, the Chinese will have to match those numbers in the Pacific and then bring a large navy to fight the 200-ship IN. So the Chinese need to cater to over 600 ships.

The rest of what you quoted is irrelevant. Even if the US becomes India's enemy, nothing changes for the PLAN.
 
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Pretty much saying that F-35's current E/Cyber-Warfare is very advanced and blk4 will put it in a whole different realm. Not only that but US military as a whole EW capability is very advanced and pretty much unstoppable.

They've been ahead of the game for a while...

In an interview with The War Zone in 2022, Col. Josh Koslov, commander of the Air Force's 350th Spectrum Warfare Wing, had the following to say about cognitive electronic warfare:
"Cognitive EW is definitely something that is a real thing. The Air Force has been doing it for a while. It's not new, it's just becoming more broadly well-known."
...
"There is a potential for a buzzword aspect to that phrase. I don't want to have lexicon battles, but what I do need is a mindset that I can develop technology that says it looks like a duck, it smells like a duck, it's in bad-guy land, so I'm going to use this effect against it in order to be as quick as possible because all future fights are about speed. That's what I have to be able to do. If we're going to call that cognitive, that's fine. If we're going to call that algorithmic, that's fine. But at the end of the day, what I need to do is be rapid."

The Air Force stood up the 350th Spectrum Warfare Wing in 2021 to be a focal point for the service when it comes to all things in the electromagnetic spectrum, including electronic and cyber warfare. The Wing's 350th Spectrum Warfare Group is specifically responsible for providing reprogramming support for various electronic warfare systems, including ones belonging to U.S. allies and partners.


Chicoms had a small taste of US EW capability.

How Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan set off a new wave of US-China electronic warfare​

Chinese and the US forces were locked in a reconnaissance and electronic warfare tussle in the lead-up to and after US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan, according to military sources and defence analysts.

But not all of it was successful, according to sources close to the Chinese military.

State broadcaster CCTV reported the Chinese military used naval and air forces in multiple locations to conduct "full tracking and surveillance" against the US Air Force transport aircraft flying Pelosi and her delegation from Kuala Lumpur to Taipei on August 2.


The tracking was aimed at "deterrence", the report quoted PLA Major General Meng Xiangqing, from the PLA National Defence University, as saying.

However a source said the People's Liberation Army's tracking efforts - which involved jets and Type 055 destroyers - failed.

"The PLA deployed some electronic warfare aircraft such as the J-16D and warships to try to locate Pelosi's aircraft, but were not successful," the source said.

"Almost all the PLA electronic warfare equipment couldn't work properly because they were all jammed by electronic interference by the American aircraft strike group sent by the Pentagon to escort her."

On the flight, Pelosi's aircraft took an unusually circuitous route by heading southeast towards the Indonesian part of Borneo, then turning north to fly along the eastern part of the Philippines.

He Yuan Ming, an independent airpower analyst, said it was not surprising that the Chinese vessels did not detect the flight.

"Even if the Type 055 (destroyer's) radar is said to be 500km (310 miles), its effective range in the real world would be much less," He said.

"Couple this with the vast operating area as well as the Type 055's relative newness both in terms of its hardware (capabilities) and software (crew), there should be little surprise that the PLA (naval) cruiser could not locate (Pelosi's plane)."

Pelosi's trip was followed by a series of unprecedented PLA war games encircling Taiwan.

On the second day of the exercises, the US sent at least seven reconnaissance and early warning aircraft to waters near Taiwan, according to the Beijing-based South China Sea Strategic Situation Probing Initiative.

The deployment included a RC-135V and RC-135S for missile surveillance, three P-8A maritime anti-submarine planes, three E-3G spy jets and one U-2S high-altitude monitor plane, supported by six KC-135 refueling aircraft.

Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of Canada-based Kanwa Asian Defence, said that with its technology it was very likely that the American navy realised that the PLA had deployed submarines to waters off Taiwan, despite silence on both sides over the involvement of the vessels in the war games.

The first source said electronic warfare between the PLA and US military went back to the 1995-96 Taiwan Strait crisis when American forces jammed almost all the PLA's military radar systems during its missile tests.

"That's the key reason that prompted China to develop its own BeiDou Satellite Navigation System," the source said, adding that both sides were keen to size up the other's strength in the area.

"Both China and the US wanted to examine each other's electronic warfare capabilities this time. The PLA is especially keen to make sure its technology is strong enough to cope with a possible Taiwan contingency."

The problem with non US/western nation folks who think they are learned in military warfare never ever consider the importance and capability of US EW/Cyber warfare in a war against a big military nation under high-tech conditions. They don't understand so they dumb it down to hardware vs hardware and kinematics or how big a radar is almost never including the most important part of warfare... superior battle space picture.

That fact that the US denied the chicoms the ability to track a non-stealthy aircraft shows the US is in a whole other level in warfare. US denied chicoms most powerful warship with a powerful antenna the ability to track Pelosi's plane knowing full well the likely flight path.

Chicoms have no clue what is waiting for them if and when they decide to attack Taiwan and face off against US military.

That Pelosi thing is not a big deal. You can shut off the spectrum for everyone by jamming everything for a few hours at long ranges, it's done to protect VVIPs. But what it means is even you can't use the spectrum. That's worse for the US than it is for others.
 
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As well as AEW&C, you can also add, space based radar and sensors

Not as useful in the mountains, but the PLAAF definitely has better assets today than the IAF does.

The IA is gonna be the main spearhead. It's also because of the IA that the Chinese have not done anything real along the border. As one of our top generals has already pointed out, the IAF is only a supporting force in the Sino-India theater.

"Do not forget the IAF continues to remain a supporting arm just as artillery support or engineers support the combatant arm in the Army. They will be a supporting arm," General Bipin Rawat said.
 
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