I agree that we need more AEW&C and need to strengthen our ISR. This is also one area where India would need US help.
And I am not living in any fantasy world. Everything I wrote is well corroborated by our army veterans and defence experts.
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion
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And I am not living in any fantasy world. Everything I wrote is well corroborated by our army veterans and defence experts.
8 billion dollars + 23 already contracted (https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_N0001920C0009_9700_-NONE-_-NONE- don't forget P00021 to 25 for 400 million dollars) for 126 + 126 + 127 F-35.
When the contract has been made public in july 2022 it was for 30 billions. Now it's 31 billions.
www.reuters.com
When the contract has been made public in july 2022 it was for 30 billions. Now it's 31 billions.
Pentagon awards $7.8 billion F-35 contract to Lockheed Martin
The U.S. Department of Defense said on Friday it has awarded a $7.8 billion contract modification for 126 F-35 multi-role aircraft to weapons manufacturer Lockheed Martin Corp .
No they were still in contact with Pelosi's plane. Prove your claim that US had no contact.
Extract from https://open.overheid.nl/documenten/ronl-5b59bbadb330f60a16e59f22b7daef7252e71036/pdf
The Dutch F-35 fleet in the United States, after a period of relatively high corrective and preventive maintenance, has returned to a normal maintenance level.
However, the deployment capability of the F-35s at Leeuwarden and Volkel air bases remains below standard. The main reason for the delays in engine maintenance due to damage to engine parts, longer delivery times of certain spare parts in the supply chain due to their scarcity and a shortage of qualified maintenance personnel.
In addition, the deployment of the F-35 for NATO has recently put additional pressure on an important phase of the F-16 to F-35 transition. During the F-35 deployments to Poland and Bulgaria, NATO has been confronted with safety issues.
"In addition, it has been decided that the cost of modifications to the F-35, which will enable the new capabilities developed under the F-35 programmeare being developed in the aircraft, will be covered by the investment portfolio. "
The annual noise calculations carried out by the Dutch Aerospace Centre.
The results show that the measured noise levels are in agreement with the pre-calculated noise levels for the F-35.
The project aims to achieve, on time and within budget, the following objectives
Full Operational Capability (FOC) on time and within budget. With the replacement schedule currently envisaged, Defence aims to achieve FOC status by 2024 and to be able to monitor Dutch airspace 24 hours a day, seven days a week with the F-35 and to carry out one mission with four F-35 aircraft at all times, in the short or long term.
The first key milestone, the availability of the Initial Operational Capability (IOC) of the F-35 was reached at the end of 2021. With the additional acquisition of six aircraft, the defence should have a total of 52 F-35 fighters by 2026, divided into three full F-35 squadrons, a training unit and a test unit.
Once the third squadron is fully staffed with trained personnel, it will be possible to deploy four F-35s in the long term or briefly deploy eight F-35s on a single mission. At the same time, it is also possible to briefly fly a second mission with four F-35s.
Clearly the Dutch operational contract is only met with 52 F-35s. It was not achieved with the original contract. There is therefore a clear misrepresentation, as 37 should have been enough with 4.5 billion euros. As in the Korean and Australian cases, the number of F-35s has increased by 50% compared to the initial contract.
The Dutch F-35 fleet in the United States, after a period of relatively high corrective and preventive maintenance, has returned to a normal maintenance level.
However, the deployment capability of the F-35s at Leeuwarden and Volkel air bases remains below standard. The main reason for the delays in engine maintenance due to damage to engine parts, longer delivery times of certain spare parts in the supply chain due to their scarcity and a shortage of qualified maintenance personnel.
In addition, the deployment of the F-35 for NATO has recently put additional pressure on an important phase of the F-16 to F-35 transition. During the F-35 deployments to Poland and Bulgaria, NATO has been confronted with safety issues.
"In addition, it has been decided that the cost of modifications to the F-35, which will enable the new capabilities developed under the F-35 programmeare being developed in the aircraft, will be covered by the investment portfolio. "
The annual noise calculations carried out by the Dutch Aerospace Centre.
The results show that the measured noise levels are in agreement with the pre-calculated noise levels for the F-35.
The project aims to achieve, on time and within budget, the following objectives
Full Operational Capability (FOC) on time and within budget. With the replacement schedule currently envisaged, Defence aims to achieve FOC status by 2024 and to be able to monitor Dutch airspace 24 hours a day, seven days a week with the F-35 and to carry out one mission with four F-35 aircraft at all times, in the short or long term.
The first key milestone, the availability of the Initial Operational Capability (IOC) of the F-35 was reached at the end of 2021. With the additional acquisition of six aircraft, the defence should have a total of 52 F-35 fighters by 2026, divided into three full F-35 squadrons, a training unit and a test unit.
Once the third squadron is fully staffed with trained personnel, it will be possible to deploy four F-35s in the long term or briefly deploy eight F-35s on a single mission. At the same time, it is also possible to briefly fly a second mission with four F-35s.
Clearly the Dutch operational contract is only met with 52 F-35s. It was not achieved with the original contract. There is therefore a clear misrepresentation, as 37 should have been enough with 4.5 billion euros. As in the Korean and Australian cases, the number of F-35s has increased by 50% compared to the initial contract.
I'm referring to surveillance. You don't wanna get detected with radar, then you jam across all radar frequencies, like L band or S band, even UHF, while using other frequencies for communication, like VHF or Ka. Radars will still work, but won't be very effective. And then aircraft can use tactics that further lower the chance of detection.
So, if you can't effectively use radar, the other side cannot as well. It's a very old tactic and is effective.
During war, it's easily beaten by attacking such jammers.
But you don't know exactly what the US used to jam the Type 055's powerful AESA tracking antenna or the J-16D's ability to JAM the coms on Pelosi's plane.
Ignore it. He simply doesn't know how 'jamming' works. If he thinks the US are 'jamming' their own radars.
He doesn't understand because he sees it through the eyes of Russian way of jamming which actually jams their own radars which is why Flankers have stopped using those cute EW pods on their wing tips.
Ridiculous claim
Flankers still use wing-tip pods. In fact, DRDO just unveiled GaN AESA wing-tip jamming pods for upgraded MKI. Russian Flankers(all of them), still use Khibiny pods since Flankers don't have space for internal jammers. Only in the proposed Su-35SM they're talking about internal/skin based jammers, but that is yet to be seen. Quite obviously, you've no idea what you're talking about.
Any powerful jammer will do the trick. It's just a brute force method called barrage jamming.
I'm pretty sure I know way more about it than you.
There's no Russian way or American way, there's only the highway. What the Americans did in this case was the equivalent of shining torch light directly into your eyes.
Here's a good example: Learn it in 3 seconds.
So what happened to that guy's eyes, happened to the radars. That's about it. The only problem is all the radars are affected by this, for obvious reasons.
Let's face the reality here. Neither of you know what the hell you're talking about, which is very normal.
Lol. Ever hear of Base-Jamming? It focuses on the targeted antenna at all frequencies without effecting other radars. You really have no clue, huh? US specifically targeted the Type 055 AESA and the J-16D jamming ability without effecting its own radar and coms.
Very last century. For someone who likes to brag about his knowledge on weapon systems you'd think he would have heard of base-jamming I mean yeah it's sorta new-ish to the EW-realm but still at least google before you ignorantly post.
Now watch him spin.
How US did It Though?
I am assuming that, To Identify, Isolate and jam only these Chinese radar would require much more deeper intelligence or a Simple IFF would be enough.
Unusual Failure! F-35 Jets Operating In ‘Stealth Mode’ & Helping Ukraine ‘Failed’ To Identify Russia’s AD Systems
US Air Force F-35A fighters detected unusual S-300 radar emissions that didn’t match with the existing database of the air defense system’s radar signature cataloged in the jets’ computers.
This was when the stealth jets were silently gathering electronic intelligence (ELINT) data on Russian air defense radars by flying patrols along the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s (NATO) eastern flank for the first three months of the war.
A recent article EurAsian Times reported the experience of the 388th Fighter Wing and the 419th Fighter Wing, which were discreetly eavesdropping on Russian radar emissions. But they were surprised to find unknown peacetime frequencies from the S-300 that the pilots knew was the system, but the sophisticated computers aboard the fighters could not identify.
It is common for ground radars to not operate in their actual frequencies in peacetime – called ‘war reserve’ – to prevent adversaries from knowing their capabilities. Twelve jets and around 300 airmen had arrived at Spangdahlem in Germany on February 16, 2022, eight days before the war began.
US Air Force F-35A fighters detected unusual S-300 radar emissions that didn’t match with the existing database of the air defense system’s radar signature cataloged in the jets’ computers.
This was when the stealth jets were silently gathering electronic intelligence (ELINT) data on Russian air defense radars by flying patrols along the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s (NATO) eastern flank for the first three months of the war.
A recent article EurAsian Times reported the experience of the 388th Fighter Wing and the 419th Fighter Wing, which were discreetly eavesdropping on Russian radar emissions. But they were surprised to find unknown peacetime frequencies from the S-300 that the pilots knew was the system, but the sophisticated computers aboard the fighters could not identify.
It is common for ground radars to not operate in their actual frequencies in peacetime – called ‘war reserve’ – to prevent adversaries from knowing their capabilities. Twelve jets and around 300 airmen had arrived at Spangdahlem in Germany on February 16, 2022, eight days before the war began.
When a radar is in tracking mode it's pretty much telling you its location. What the US used to jam the Type055's AESA antenna I have no idea. The point of the topic is US CAN jam specific radars without effecting their own antennas which Randomradio seems to think otherwise but then again the guy is clueless on many things when it comes to weapon systems.
Base jamming is barrage jamming, genius. It's just more targeted.
And it's only effective when you know where all the sources are.
There's nothing special about it. Any two-bit country can do it.
You pick up the radar source, and then you point a jammer at it and jam across all its frequencies. It's just barrage jamming.
Again, they don't do this. There is some public info, google how the growler maintains coms and radar while 'jamming'
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