Ain't nothing gonna be the omnirole spectra rafale.
Except the J-20, J-31, F-22, F-35, and the SU-57.
Except the J-20, J-31, F-22, F-35, and the SU-57.
I think you are talking nonsense about India. Do you want to see for yourself what you are writingThe MKI is not underpowered. As an air superiority design which has not seen significant weight gain, it has more than sufficient thrust. It has pretty much the same rate of climb as the F-15C when you take into account fuel fraction. The F-15C's airframe is inferior to the MKI, for obvious reasons, being an older design. All other F-15 models like E and EX are much heavier and inferior to the MKI. Plus the MKI carries a lot more fuel. TVC provides a lot of advantages in saving fuel and reducing drag
Typhoon has better TWT ratio than F-15 and can climb much faster, but got mauled by Su-30MKI during exercise Indradhaush 2015 12:0 in WVR combat. Go figure...I think you are talking nonsense about India. Do you want to see for yourself what you are writing
The F 15C climbs at 360M / s and the SU 27 at 301m / s,You're telling me that the Su 30MKI can beat the climb rate of the F 15 when it's 2 tons heavier than the Su 27?
Indians always say that the N 011m radar has changed , but does anyone talk about the detection distance of N 011m being only 110KM?Did anyone tell you the antenna gain is only 36 dB?Did anyone tell you that PESA's pattern performance lags behind PD radar?Did anyone tell me you N 011m weighs 650KG?Deal with J 10C and J 16 only in a dreamThe MKI's radar is hybrid-PESA. It works like a PESA during transmission, but during reception it works like an AESA, so it processes signals similar to AESA. But I agree that it's time to upgrade the MKI's radar. Although Bars is old, it's still effective against old jets like the F-16, J-10C and J-16
Who reported the story except the Indian media?You can take out a Typhoon but you can't even take down a JF-17Typhoon has better TWT ratio than F-15 and can climb much faster, but got mauled by Su-30MKI during exercise Indradhaush 2015 12:0 in WVR combat. Go figure...
First, even at 18.4 tons, it weighs nearly two tons more than the Oh J-11BAre you for real? That is an official 'unclassified' RMAF document. Empty weight is 17.8 tons and OEW/MEW with two pilots, gun ammo, hydraulic oil etc. is 18.4 tons. MKI/MKM uses lots of composite vs old Su-35(Su-27M) and its nose profile is smaller too. Thus despite 2-seat cockpit it weighs similarly at 18.4 tons.
Now, if you don't accept it then it's upto you. I've give you as 'official' source as official it can be
From the first sentence you said it was wrong. F 16 Block 60 is no ordinary upgrade AESAIt's just a simple refinement with a new engine and avionics, like what happened with the F-16.
With the AIM-120C, the F-16 B52 without AESA will still be able to challenge the F-16 B60 with AESA. But if the J-10A isn't able to challenge the J-10C even with the same weapon, then it's a problem with the J-10A. Obviously, the J-10C is not a stealth jet. You can expect both the Mirage 2000-5 Mk2 and F-16 B52 to be able to challenge the J-10C in BVR combat.
Well, if he can supercruising, physics have to rewrite it, unless he accelerates to Mach 1.4, then turns off the afterburner and flies supersonic for a short timeRafale is supercruising, without a doubt.
I know. for some reason they want to think that the meteor is the longest range missile. Even though it is still in testing for the rafale and is not fielded.I'm not saying Meteor is a bad missile in fact I've never said such a claim I'm just posting that the Aim-120D shot down a target breaking the longest range shot by US missile which was held by the Pheonix at a 126 miles. The aim-120d likely shot that target at 130+miles making its range equal to the Meteor's public range and for some reason Rafale fanboys lose their mind over this.
Watch this.... The D3's range supposed to be greater than the D so I reckon its range surpasses the Meteor?
Now they'll go nuts.
So it would also slap a rafale. Rafale losing guns dogfights to the typhoon are around. 30mki is the best india has, not the rafale anymore.Typhoon has better TWT ratio than F-15 and can climb much faster, but got mauled by Su-30MKI during exercise Indradhaush 2015 12:0 in WVR combat. Go figure...
In dogfight MKI would destroy the Rafale more often than not(with HOBS or guns). But Rafale would destroy MKI in BVR. That's the crux of modern air combat. BVR>> WVR.So it would also slap a rafale. Rafale losing guns dogfights to the typhoon are around. 30mki is the best india has, not the rafale anymore.
Wrong. Chinese reduced weight of J-16 over Su-30 by adding composites. The first MKI had 6% of weight by composites and it was always planned to add more composites in later tranches. MKI's empty weight is just 17.8 tons. 18.4 tons is with 2 pilots, gun ammo and hydraulic oil etc. Plus Bars on MKI also had lighter electronics over Su-27M(Su-37), thus despite being twin seater, it weighs exactly as much as them.First, even at 18.4 tons, it weighs nearly two tons more than the Oh J-11B
Secondly, I don't think MKI can lose weight, a pilot's weight, add avionics weight, The only thing that got lighter after World War II was MiG 23MLU,MKI and SU 27M were born at a similar age, composite materials can not be applied to this extent
My data comes from the Sukhoi authorities
Bars has been updated multiple times. Despite being old, it can guide Astra 2( a very long range BVR) to its end. That tells us that it's still very effective. IAF also wanted to add Meteor which is a 300kms missile on to MKI, but MBDA denied. Still it tells us what IAF thinks about max range of Bars radar.Indians always say that the N 011m radar has changed , but does anyone talk about the detection distance of N 011m being only 110KM?Did anyone tell you the antenna gain is only 36 dB?Did anyone tell you that PESA's pattern performance lags behind PD radar?Did anyone tell me you N 011m weighs 650KG?Deal with J 10C and J 16 only in a dream
The RAF never denied it. So it confirms that MKI destroyed Typhoon 12:0 in dogfight. It will do the same to your J-20/J-16/J-10 if they dare engage it in WVR.Who reported the story except the Indian media?You can take out a Typhoon but you can't even take down a JF-17
18.4t is empty weight,17.8t this stat makes no sense,I'm comparing is empty weight,6% is not high, J-11B alone is 9%.As for J 16, no public data currently availableMKI's empty weight is just 17.8 tons. 18.4 tons is with 2 pilots, gun ammo and hydraulic oil etc. Plus Bars on MKI also had lighter electronics over Su-27M(Su-37),
Bars has been updated multiple times. Despite being old, it can guide Astra 2( a very long range BVR) to its end. That tells us that it's still very effective. IAF also wanted to add Meteor which is a 300kms missile on to MKI, but MBDA denied. Still it tells us what IAF thinks about max range of Bars radar.
Because this in itself is the Indian's own fantasy, of course the British will not care youThe RAF never denied it. So it confirms that MKI destroyed Typhoon 12:0 in dogfight. It will do the same to your J-20/J-16/J-10 if they dare engage it in WVR
Because this in itself is the Indian's own fantasy, of course the British will not care youThe RAF never denied it. So it confirms that MKI destroyed Typhoon 12:0 in dogfight. It will do the same to your J-20/J-16/J-10 if they dare engage it in WVR
Su-27 is n011m Rader,When we talk about empty weight, we add pilot weight and hydraulic fluid, lubricating oil, and artillery shellselectronics over Su-27M(Su-37),
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There is some internet chatter that US is offering F-35s directly under gov to gov deal for MRFA. That is also to counter similar offer made by France. I always myself thought MRFA was a direct shoot between Rafale and F-35!
Which plane should be better for us to face PLAAF in your opinion?
I think you are talking nonsense about India. Do you want to see for yourself what you are writing
The F 15C climbs at 360M / s and the SU 27 at 301m / s,You're telling me that the Su 30MKI can beat the climb rate of the F 15 when it's 2 tons heavier than the Su 27?
Indians always say that the N 011m radar has changed , but does anyone talk about the detection distance of N 011m being only 110KM?Did anyone tell you the antenna gain is only 36 dB?Did anyone tell you that PESA's pattern performance lags behind PD radar?Did anyone tell me you N 011m weighs 650KG?Deal with J 10C and J 16 only in a dream
From the first sentence you said it was wrong. F 16 Block 60 is no ordinary upgrade AESA
Do you believe that four J 10Cs can take out a Mirage 2000 squadron
If Rafale can be a stealth fighter, why can't J 10C
In this 4.5 generation fighter has long been popular era holding a few Rafale fighters, as a destructor is extremely ridiculous
I know. for some reason they want to think that the meteor is the longest range missile.