Mirage 2000H, MiG-29UPG, Jaguar DARIN III - Medium Multirole Aircraft of IAF

Whats the range of MICA NG?
30% more than legacy MICA.
MICA is said to have a 80km range (in what conditions ??? always the same debate with all the AtoA missile).

The sole real things we know is that a Taiwanese M2000 fired a MICA successfully against a drone at 67km twenty years ago.

The No Escape Range is far less. 20km ?
 
30% more than legacy MICA.
MICA is said to have a 80km range (in what conditions ??? always the same debate with all the AtoA missile).

The sole real things we know is that a Taiwanese M2000 fired a MICA successfully against a drone at 67km twenty years ago.

The No Escape Range is far less. 20km ?

So it is almost equal to AIM 20 C in terms of range.
 
Elta EL/M-2052 for the IAF's SEPECAT Jaguar :

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Development of D-29 System (Internal EW system for MIG-29 Upgrade Aircraft)
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D-29 is an integrated EW system for Radar warning and jamming that encompasses RWR, ECM, ESM functions and utilizes state-of-the-art active phased arrays for selectively jamming the multiple threat radars. The D-29 system serves primarily as a self-protection jammer that will boost survivability, enhance situation awareness and increase mission effectiveness.
D-29 system detects and gives the information about the position of the RF sources illuminating the aircraft and applies the appropriate jamming technique. The system mainly consists of Unified Receiver Exciter Processor (UREP modified to suit the requirements of D-29), Solid State Transmit / Receive Unit (SSTRU) with Active Array Unit (AAU) and a liquid cooling system.
D-29 System has completed flight evaluation from users for ground and airborne emitters in Nashik and Gwalior. The system performance has been satisfactory. Modification of all 06 aircraft has been completed for the installation of D-29 system.
 
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Look like UTTAM need a lot of improvements.
Indeed. But that was the first prototype, not exactly a benchmark for anything. The UTTAM now is undergoing flight tests and has been capable of all that the contemporary radars from global manufacturers can do.

The count of TRMs doesn't matter as much as AESA radars like UTTAM are very scalable. The TRM count can vary depending on the permitable size of the radome. What matters more is the type of TRMs deployed. If the UTTAM starts using the taper slotted array type TRMs then it will easily out do the 2052 with 736 TRMs.
 
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Indeed. But that was the first prototype, not exactly a benchmark for anything. The UTTAM now is undergoing flight tests and has been capable of all that the contemporary radars from global manufacturers can do.

The count of TRMs doesn't matter as much as AESA radars like UTTAM are very scalable. The TRM count can vary depending on the permitable size of the radome. What matters more is the type of TRMs deployed. If the UTTAM starts using the taper slotted array type TRMs then it will easily out do the 2052 with 736 TRMs.
What's the radome size of jaguar & Tejas respectively? are these TRM GaAs or GAN ?
 
What's the radome size of jaguar & Tejas respectively?
The figures are not known to me. All I can say is the Tejas has a radome with a circular cross section where as Jaguar is more square than circular.
are these TRM GaAs or GAN ?
I think both radars are using GaN semi-conductors. I am certain that the UTTAM is using GaN. About the 2052 I am not certain.
 
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Israeli managed to cram more than 1100 GaN or GaAs TRM for jaguar alone which by the look has smaller radome than Tejas if one compare them side by side yet DRDO UTTAM has only 736 TRM in quad setting....even if we believe that UTTAM is GaN based & more efficient than Israeli one which I highly doubt it doesn't change the fact about high degree of miniaturisation & cooling Elta radar have over DRDO ones.
The figures are not known to me. All I can say is the Tejas has a radome with a circular cross section where as Jaguar is more square than circular.

I think both radars are using GaN semi-conductors. I am certain that the UTTAM is using GaN. About the 2052 I am not certain.
could you post more about DRDO taper slotted array any link would be helpful.
 
Israeli managed to cram more than 1100 GaN or GaAs TRM for jaguar alone which by the look has smaller radome than Tejas if one compare them side by side yet DRDO UTTAM has only 736 TRM in quad setting.
This alone speaks volumes about their capabilities. Doesn't it ?
even if we believe that UTTAM is GaN based & more efficient than Israeli one
There is no reason to believe that.
it doesn't change the fact about high degree of miniaturisation & cooling Elta radar have over DRDO ones.
Indeed. Do keep in mind it is us who are making our first attempt at AESA radars for fighters not the Israelis and the Israelis make some of the best radar systems out there. It would be quite difficult to attain similar levels of minaturisation and sophistication at our first attempt.
could you post more about DRDO taper slotted array any link would be helpful.
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Indian AESA Radar Developments
 
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Flying & fighting in the Indian Air Force Jaguar: IAF Jaguar pilot interview

January 2, 2020
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At the core of the IAF’s dedicated ground attack force is the Jaguar, a tough Cold War fighter-bomber. Group Captain Harsh Vardhan Thakur gives us the lowdown on the ‘last Jags in town’.

What were your first impressions of the Jaguar ?

“I was posted to Tuskers at Ambala, where I got my first experience of Jags. As things turned out, I also got married around the same time. So, in many ways, it was a double whammy of destiny. Shall we just say, I got a hold of the Jag eventually, while my other story continues to baffle me ਐ਑਒ਓ. ‘Where the hell is the autopilot…?’ This was the first question I asked at the Jag squadron. I grew up hearing glorious tales of the Jag. To my horror, the start-up checklist was the most glorious item at my welcome. And then my namesake was my mentor (read tormentor) during pre-conversion phase. He embodied all virtues of what should have been on the aircraft, i.e. lethal, fearsome and unforgiving. Anyway, I learnt the ropes slowly and eventually became the very reflection of my aircraft, as some would say.”

Which three words best describe it ?

“In four: not nimble, not agile”

What is the best thing about it ?

“Navigation. One navigates with the entire mission-play running alongside on the MFD. You see the virtual positions of all participants just the same as you saw during mission rehearsal. It instils a greater desire for accuracy in pilots and indeed, if you look through the virtual position, you invariably find the element member at exactly the same spot in the sky. The HUD’s highway in the sky is rather novel. It guides you through the route with sub-metric accuracy – something that you only otherwise see in NASA papers. I don’t know of any other fighter anywhere on the globe, which sports a Highway-In-The-Sky (HITS) on the HUD. IAF has inducted a number of twin seat Jags and the Rear cockpit HUD is another unique virtue, which is rare.”

.. and the worst thing ?

“No radar, no BVRs (beyond visual range missiles). I’ve heard many say that engine thrust is less, or perhaps the weight / drag is too much. That can be handled tactically, by simply flying in lighter configurations. But no radar means no eyes and no missiles plummets your respect in an air battle. DARIN-III has thankfully addressed those shortcomings and is a game-changer for Jag ops.”

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How you rate the Jaguar in the following categories :
A. Instantaneous turn B. Sustained turn C. High alpha D. Acceleration E. Climb rate ?

If you see the evolution of Jags, it was intended to be an advanced jet trainer aircraft. But then an over-design on some aspects led it to become a worthy replacement for the Vulcan bomber, at a time when strategic bombers were making way for tactical fighters. Owing to its lineage, Jags retain the DNA of a fighter-bomber, with rather less emphasis on manoeuvrability etc. The long and short of it – every fighter in the subcontinent, barring the Mir-III/V can leave the Jag behind in RoT, acceleration and climb rate. However, the Jag excels in handling, visibility and availability, which feed quite effectively into its daily tactic of saturation strikes. Jags fly in hoards at tree-top altitudes. Imagine a formation of very-very high-speed choppers. These birds are impossible to spot from the sky and difficult to track from the ground. Its legacy EW suite has always been ahead of its time. Indeed, it’s the choice of opponent in all EW-range training capsules. I’ve led many a mission when the planners requested Jags to step up, to make a worthy battle of the whole mission. We’ve had our share of fun, repeatedly slipping through defences and taking out surface targets with maximum impunity. There was a training mission led by me, when I refused the request for our formation to step up, just so ground radars could spot us and track us. So, all the sensors dipped their acquisition units to the surface when we were ingressing. Silly as it may sound, four of us accelerated to 560 kt at low levels and then zoomed up to 30,000 feet as we struck the runway, without one missile tracking us. The auto-bombing on Jag precludes the requirement of pilots to spot their DMPI. Pilots simply press the trigger and smoke a cigar, while the system does all the hard work of honing the sights on to the target and getting the bombs to ride to them accurately. Anyway, the two Jags at low levelss penetrated the fringes of the missile envelope several times, then turned away. The CO at the missile unit went, ‘Gotcha!’. The debrief was a laugh riot. The poor CO is my course mate and curses me till date for his failed demo (to students) of the Jag formation take-down. ‘Pick on someone your own size’ I say.”

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When did India procure the Jaguar and where were you trained ?

“The first set of Royal Air Force Jags ferried into Fighting Fourteens (Bulls) at Western Air Command in 1979. 40 NavWASS (Navigation & Weapon Aiming Sub-System) Jaguar International-built at BAe facility in Warton UK, were inducted into the IAF in 1981. RAF Jags ferried back to UK during this period. Subsequently, 80 DARIN (Digital Attack Ranging Inertial Navigation) Jags were built in HAL factory at Bangalore. Testimony that Make-in-India model of manufacturing has been around for decades. The indigenous Jags included upgraded engines, newer avionics, EW suite, recon pods, as well as 10 maritime variant Jags with their A-S radar and ASM. Indigenous Jags have been the mainstay of IAF’s strike fleet for a long time. By the way, there’s a back story behind the acronym DARIN, apparently suggested by SAGEM of France, who were involved in its development in support to the Indian Inertial Organisation (IIO). It was initially suggested to be called INDRA (Inertial Nav Digital Ranging & Attack). However, the name being very similar sounding to the stalwart PM of India, was shelved owing to some unspoken circumstances. Eventually, HAL also manufactured 37 more DARIN-II Jags which continued fresh induction into IAF till as late as 2010. For their time, DARIN-2s were highly modernised Jags with INGPS, LDP, LGB, autopilot, new displays, HOTAS, etc. The first set of NavWASS Jags were also upgraded to DARIN-II standard during this period. DARIN Jags have been upgraded to DARIN-III standard and are now being inducted into service. DARIN-III is a confluence of all the work done on Jags thus far in India. It variously includes AESA radar, new generation AAMs, ASMs, sensor fused armament, extended range LGBs… the list goes on. Its glass cockpit is modern, efficient and retains virtues of the traditional as well as contemporary.”

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Flying & fighting in the Indian Air Force Jaguar: IAF Jaguar pilot interview
 
The figures are not known to me. All I can say is the Tejas has a radome with a circular cross section where as Jaguar is more square than circular.

I think both radars are using GaN semi-conductors. I am certain that the UTTAM is using GaN. About the 2052 I am not certain.
Gautam Sir
How are you so certain of GaN in Uttam. With full respect I want to know the link of claim. Please. 🙏 🙏 🙏
In a recent interview DRDO chief said that once we achieve 40 watts GaN transmiter power, GaN will be used in उत्तम AESA, but as of now it has Gas. I only remember but not have link.
 
Gautam Sir
How are you so certain of GaN in Uttam. With full respect I want to know the link of claim. Please. 🙏 🙏 🙏
In a recent interview DRDO chief said that once we achieve 40 watts GaN transmiter power, GaN will be used in उत्तम AESA, but as of now it has Gas. I only remember but not have link.

QRSAM BMFR BSR radars uses GaN Trms ,

So any doubts about uttam
 
Gautam Sir
How are you so certain of GaN in Uttam. With full respect I want to know the link of claim. Please. 🙏 🙏 🙏
It wasn't published in any media. I saw prototype TRMs of the UTTAM in a research paper before the radar was displayed for the first time. There it was mentioned that the TRMs used GaN transistors. Unfortunately I haven't kept a photo saved on my computer. That was from a long time back, I am not sure if I can find it now. I will post it if I come across it again.
At the end of post #71 on page 4 you can see a DRDO fabricated GaN wafer.

Indian AESA Radar Developments
In a recent interview DRDO chief said that once we achieve 40 watts GaN transmiter power, GaN will be used in उत्तम AESA, but as of now it has Gas. I only remember but not have link.
Pretty sure he was talking about the TSA type TRMs using GaN. I've posted about them here(#137 page 7) :

Indian AESA Radar Developments