IDK which place to ask this question but during the kargil war which aircrafts were the IAF using and in what quantity?
Same with the 1965 and 1971 wars
Same with the 1965 and 1971 wars
Mirage 2000H, MiG-29UPG, Jaguar DARIN III - Medium Multirole Aircraft of IAF
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@Multicellularman There is a dedicated thread about the kargil war : Kargil War
And about other wars I think.
And about other wars I think.
What happened to plans to purchase used M2000s from qatar?
If LCA-M2K is coming as per schedule, then Qatari M2000s are a waste of money??
If LCA-M2K is coming as per schedule, then Qatari M2000s are a waste of money??
Nothing's concrete on the purchase of Qatari Mirages. Last I read, the proposal was being "evaluated" by the IAF. They still have a third of their life left but the price quoted by Qatar was deemed too high by the IAF, though the pricing included all the weapons and spares.
If mk2 rolls out next year..
We can forget about getting any other fighter deal..
Mk1A + Super Sukhoi + Rafale M for this government term . That's it.
the two fraternal countries in South Asia really like France planes, Pakistan buys Mirage 3 everywhere, and India likes to buy Mirage 2000 everywhere
Quality products. French jets are like iPhone.
The rest of the world has not shown such an obsession with the French Mirage fighter. India needs the Mirage 2000 to deliver advanced ground attack weapons from France and Israel, and Pakistan needs the Mirage III for close air support. It can only be said to be a coincidence of fate.
It cannot be said that the French fighter is absolutely a good product. Although the Indian Su-30 is a multi-purpose fighter, it can only use Russian and some Indian ammunition, and does not have the excellent ground attack capability that India wants. For Pakistan, it needs to retain all the ground attack aircraft it can use to save its army's disadvantages.
Not correct. MKI has more weapons options than the Mirage 2000. It also carries Israeli and French weapons, like SPICE, Hammer and MICA. The MKI carries weapons the Mirage cannot even use, like Brahmos and 1500 kg bombs.
But we use Mirage for SEAD/DEAD and penetration missions because of its avionics superiority over the MKI. It has a much higher success rate in defeating enemy ground radars.
PAF Mirages are different, they don't use a lot of French avionics, which is the main selling point of a Mirage. For example, their ROSE III upgrade uses a Chinese EW suite, which defeats the purpose. So there's no point in comparing IAF's Mirages with PAF's.
What's important to note is the Mirage 2000 has penetrated American defenses quite a few times during exercises without being detected.
I haven't seen any pictures of Indian Su-30 fighters using some advanced Western weapons, so what you said is not certain. Judging from the actual war in 2019, India is more inclined to use Su-30 for air cover and Mirage 2000 for ground strikes.
The Mirage 2000 cannot perform SEAD missions. It does not have dedicated anti-radiation missiles or dedicated ground jamming pods. It only has an electronic reconnaissance pod.
I don't see any superior electronic equipment of the Indian Mirage 2000 over the Su-30. The electronic equipment level of both aircraft is maintained at around 2000, and the Su-30 has a larger power generation capacity and can carry a higher-power jamming pod. And it can also use the Russian Kh 31. Although the performance of this missile is relatively backward, it is still much better than the weapons that the Mirage 2000 can use.
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Pakistan's Mirage III has a different role from India's. In India, the Jaguar attack aircraft performs close ground support missions.
Its functions are similar to those of Pakistan's Mirage III
Will IAF relinquish MRFA though
What ever they do, they won't get it in Modi s third term.
Though, Fanboy in me looking for surprise after the Engine deal gets done.
In reality I don't think we ll get any other fighter deals.
Dassault is betting big on winning the 114 MRFA deal though. That's why they are investing so much in India. There is also an opportunity for them to sell more Rafale M if the TEDBF program suffers delays. Let's see...
M-2000 and Rafale can play much better hide n seek than MKI, not only because of their more advance electronics/avionics but also owing to their smaller size along with their ability to fly really low and fast, hugging the terra firma
Rafale fighter has some equipment that Su-30 does not have, but does Mirage 2000 have it? Can you really name any function that Mirage 2000 has that Su-30 does not have? Moreover, unlike what you might think, Mirage 2000, although small, adopts tailless delta wing layout, which is more suitable for high-altitude supersonic flight. When flying at low altitude and low speed, its performance is far worse than that of Flanker fighter.Dassault is betting big on winning the 114 MRFA deal though. That's why they are investing so much in India. There is also an opportunity for them to sell more Rafale M if the TEDBF program suffers delays. Let's see...
M-2000 and Rafale can play much better hide n seek than MKI, not only because of their more advance electronics/avionics but also owing to their smaller size along with their ability to fly really low and fast, hugging the terra firma
This is also the reason why many countries gave up the Mirage 2000. Its aerodynamic layout is far behind the times.
Your understanding of aircraft is still limited to movies.
When I see you criticising the Mirage 2000, you remind me of an American (or an Australian) criticising the Rafale.
As our primary aircraft, MKI is integrated with French weapons too.
One of the most basic requirements the IAF has is to integrate all weapons we use on all our primary platforms. So both MKI and LCA will be integrated with almost every weapon in our inventory, Russian, French, Israeli, American and Indian. MKI is integrated with the British ASRAAM and the Israeli Python and Derby and the French MICA IR. MBDA rejected Meteor integration though. But Hammer is integrated.
As for pics, the IAF doesn't release such pictures.
During war, most MKIs will be tasked for ground strike, not air cover.