The IAF wasn't interested in either the Mirage F1 or the Viggen. Both were single-engined and not suitable for DPS missions.
It doesn't take any significant amount of knowledge to know that the IAF wanted the Jaguar.
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The IAF wasn't interested in either the Mirage F1 or the Viggen. Both were single-engined and not suitable for DPS missions.
It doesn't take any significant amount of knowledge to know that the IAF wanted the Jaguar.
Sir , Is the Su 34 capable of low level flying ie as low as the Jaguar
The Russians call it a Dedicated Bomber /Strike Aircraft
IMO that's not happening before 2024-25. MMRCA is gonna start earlier, right?
And MWF is a SE aircraft and they'll most likely select a TE aircraft for MMRCA...?
What they really need are avionics. Where are they gonna get the radar and the IRST's for the rest of the fleet. And engines as well
If it were me, I would look upto OEM for engines since there is no other go.
Radar - i would order Uttam for Mk1A..
Since Mk1A is going to be come after 3 years minimum. Even if it's only AA mode. Anyways it's primary role is point defense only.
IRST is not planned for Mk1 or Mk1A
As for Su 30 mki, I wouldn't delay..
Whatever LRU is developed, should be upgraded.., major systems that are ready at overhaul, radar when Uttam has completed development, OEM radar also seems NOT ready anyways.
IRST we are developing, when it's ready we ll swap it in there and also get in MWF.
If we go for imports majorly, then we can't the numbers.
Jaguar was a compromise as Viggen had American engines. And Tornado was still under development.
& Jaguar was what killed other iterations of the Marut. The proposal to acquire Jaguar was first made by the IAF / initiated by the French in the late 60's/early 70's if I'm not mistaken. Any idea about it?
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Requirement for a DPSA was felt after 1971 war. Initially HF-24 with reheateded engine was supposed to do it. But the engine with afterburner failed resulting in crash and killing of a Test Pilot. So we went in for imports. Mirage F1 was considered unsuitable as it was being used even by French as an intercepter and was single engine. IAF wanted a twin engine fighter which could fly really low and for that Jaguar was considered best.
I also happened to read that since engines were a problem for the first iteration of the Marut, there was a proposal to build one in India for which a budget of INR 5 crores were required. This proposal was dismissed during Shastri's or IG's tenure with the Russians offering cutting edge stuff at nominal prices with payments in rupees & long term credit.
It was after 1971 that the sheer dependance on the former SU was seen as both a danger & a handicap too & in an attempt to diversify the product basket, alternate sources were actively being considered. Hence Jaguar. Since we had a testy relationship with the UK, particularly after what transpired with the engines of the Marut, we weren't too thrilled with them being associated with the project.
Further involvement w.r.t ToT etc between BAe & HAL was when Thatcher came to power because both she & IG shared a very good equation.
In fact the Mirages were also procured precisely because we didn't want to be completely beholden to the ex SU who in turn came rushing in with the MiG-29 at easy terms thereby curtailing the requirements of Mirages (which incidentally became a recurring theme with the IAF all the way till 2004-5 for they were thrilled with the Mirages ) when the MMRCA-1.0 was first floated.
In the interim during IG's tenure, we also approached the US under Reagan with our own wish list - part of which was helping us with the LCA program (the ADA for the flight law program & a jt engine development with the GTRE apart from other areas including training our personnel which fructified during RG's tenure ) when they were supplying Paxtan with the F-16.
In fact the US had offered us the total ToT of the Northrop F-20 Tiger shark too which had lost out in an internal competition to General Dynamics F-16 in the USAF program, as a way of assuaging us .This proposal wasn't favourably considered by the IAF on the grounds that if the US didn't want it, there must have been some shortcoming in the said FA which in the event proved to be a misplaced notion.
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Is it confirmed? I mean the deal?The future Swiss Rafale.
Of course not. It's was only a vote where Swiss citizen accepted to agree a fighter selection. But there's a major pression on price since the result isn't large for a "yes".
The GSoA, is considering an express initiative in case an American plane is chosen, which increases the chances of the Typhoon and the Rafale.
It's a joke picture, Milka is a famous Swiss chocolate brand.
After all switzerland is a european country, i think they will inclined to a european fighter if US fighters doesn't have much superiority over Eurocanrads
