For many countries it is above 1:1 and as much as 2:1 between fighter pilots and fighter jets. In the IAF, it is 1.25:1.
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For many countries it is above 1:1 and as much as 2:1 between fighter pilots and fighter jets. In the IAF, it is 1.25:1.
In the French air force the ratio is 1.4 pilots for 1 Rafale. The training in France has to be 180h/year of real fly (with some 50 h in simulator) its means that Rafale has to fly 250h/year.
For India I belived that SU-30 MKI were flying only 100h a year but we get an information that it was 167 h a year;
HAL’s record turnover masks concern over dwindling order book
And in india the training has to be 200 h a year for pilots so the rate of pilot/SU-30 MKI cannot be more than 167/200 = 0.84.
It is one explanation of the shortage.
Indian, French defence associations sign MoU to promote partnership
New Delhi, Apr 16 (PTI) The Indian and French defence and aerospace industries associations today signed a memorandum of understanding to promote partnerships between the companies of the two countries.
A statement by Groupement des Industries Francaises A ronautiques et Spatiales (GIFAS), the French Aerospace Industries Association, said it signed the MoU with the Society of Indian Defence Manufacturers (SIDM) in the field of aerospace and defence.
The MoU will allow the implementation of measures to promote a mutually beneficial cooperation in aerospace and defence manufacturing, research and technology, human capital, engineering services, systems integration.
“The signing of this MoU between our two bodies is an excellent opportunity to develop the cooperation between France and India and shape the aerospace and defence industry of the future,” GIFAS managing director Pierre Bourlot and SIDM director general Subrata Saha said after signing the MoU.
Speaking at a seperate event, Eric Trappier, CEO of Dassault Aviation, which manufactures Rafale, said France has been very transparent in the pricing of the fighter jet with India and some parts of the deal have to be kept secret.
Congress had alleged a “scam” in the defence deal.
Trappier said Dassault has an advantage in the new multi-billion Indian fighter jet procurement plan floated by India.
Last week, the Indian Air Force initiated the procurement of 110 fighter aircraft for its depleted combat force now languishing at 31 fighter squadrons against a desired strength of 42.
Trappier said his company won the last time on performance and cost, and it can do it again.
In 2015, the NDA government scrapped a USD 20-billion medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) project to acquire 126 fighters, in which Rafale had emerged winner.
Later, in an inter-governmental deal, India bought 36 Rafale fighters from France in a euro 7.8 billion contract with Dassault that requires Rafale deliveries to commence in June 2019.
Indian, French defence associations sign MoU to promote partnership
New Delhi, Apr 16 (PTI) The Indian and French defence and aerospace industries associations today signed a memorandum of understanding to promote partnerships between the companies of the two countries.
A statement by Groupement des Industries Francaises A ronautiques et Spatiales (GIFAS), the French Aerospace Industries Association, said it signed the MoU with the Society of Indian Defence Manufacturers (SIDM) in the field of aerospace and defence.
The MoU will allow the implementation of measures to promote a mutually beneficial cooperation in aerospace and defence manufacturing, research and technology, human capital, engineering services, systems integration.
“The signing of this MoU between our two bodies is an excellent opportunity to develop the cooperation between France and India and shape the aerospace and defence industry of the future,” GIFAS managing director Pierre Bourlot and SIDM director general Subrata Saha said after signing the MoU.
Speaking at a seperate event, Eric Trappier, CEO of Dassault Aviation, which manufactures Rafale, said France has been very transparent in the pricing of the fighter jet with India and some parts of the deal have to be kept secret.
Congress had alleged a “scam” in the defence deal.
Trappier said Dassault has an advantage in the new multi-billion Indian fighter jet procurement plan floated by India.
Last week, the Indian Air Force initiated the procurement of 110 fighter aircraft for its depleted combat force now languishing at 31 fighter squadrons against a desired strength of 42.
Trappier said his company won the last time on performance and cost, and it can do it again.
In 2015, the NDA government scrapped a USD 20-billion medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) project to acquire 126 fighters, in which Rafale had emerged winner.
Later, in an inter-governmental deal, India bought 36 Rafale fighters from France in a euro 7.8 billion contract with Dassault that requires Rafale deliveries to commence in June 2019.
Indian, French defence associations sign MoU to promote partnership
Whatever happened to the OMNI ROLE of Rafales? Only on paper?
When it comes to REAL action, Rafale needs Mirage 2000 as escorts,
I think India got lollipop
When it comes to REAL action, Rafale needs Mirage 2000 as escorts,
I think India got lollipop
Seeking collaborators in military, civil aviation and space sectors
Around 60 big and small French defence and aerospace companies are in Bengaluru scouting for potential local partners.
On Tuesday, they interacted with representatives of around 100 Indian medium to small enterprises on collaborating in military, civil aviation and space sectors, according to the hosts — Confederation of Indian Industry and Society of Indian Defence Manufacturers (SIDM).
SIDM Director General Lt. General Subrata Saha (retd.) said, over the next decade, both sides have a business opportunity worth ₹1.7 lakh crore in the aerospace and defence sectors. The Defence Production Policy, aimed at self-reliance, targets exports worth ₹35,000 crore.
Indian companies have been invited to take part in a big way in the 2019 Paris air show.
Noting that the city has a growing presence of aerospace and defence industries, France's Consul General in Bengaluru François Gautier said a big French delegation would take part in next year's Aero India show. He said the University of Toulouse is sponsoring a Ph.D scholarship in the Indian Institute of Science.
The French business team began a four-day, four-city tour on April 16 as part of an India-France agreement signed in Delhi in March during their President's tour. It is led by original equipment manufacturers Airbus, Ariane Group, Dassault Aviation, MBDA, Safran and Thales under the umbrella of their aerospace industries association GIFAS.
French aerospace team scouts for partners
Around 60 big and small French defence and aerospace companies are in Bengaluru scouting for potential local partners.
On Tuesday, they interacted with representatives of around 100 Indian medium to small enterprises on collaborating in military, civil aviation and space sectors, according to the hosts — Confederation of Indian Industry and Society of Indian Defence Manufacturers (SIDM).
SIDM Director General Lt. General Subrata Saha (retd.) said, over the next decade, both sides have a business opportunity worth ₹1.7 lakh crore in the aerospace and defence sectors. The Defence Production Policy, aimed at self-reliance, targets exports worth ₹35,000 crore.
Indian companies have been invited to take part in a big way in the 2019 Paris air show.
Noting that the city has a growing presence of aerospace and defence industries, France's Consul General in Bengaluru François Gautier said a big French delegation would take part in next year's Aero India show. He said the University of Toulouse is sponsoring a Ph.D scholarship in the Indian Institute of Science.
The French business team began a four-day, four-city tour on April 16 as part of an India-France agreement signed in Delhi in March during their President's tour. It is led by original equipment manufacturers Airbus, Ariane Group, Dassault Aviation, MBDA, Safran and Thales under the umbrella of their aerospace industries association GIFAS.
French aerospace team scouts for partners
One of the SCALP missiles failed to launch, so it was jettisoned.
The Mirage 2000 did not participate in the strike and so did not carry air-to-ground weapons, they were there to provide air cover. Don't forget that the operation involved tankers and AWACS aircraft as well, which require protection against potential threats.
It's not the Rafales which needed protection.
Mirage 2000 were protecting AWACS and 5 x TANKERS.
No need for self protection of Rafale, carrying MICA as well.
Russia did claim that they would fight back. So the Mirages, but also the British Typhoons and the American F-15s and F-16s were there to deter any attempt to mount a counter-strike against the tankers, AWACS, warships, or B-1 bombers.
Russians had threatened to shoot down the missiles and not the launch platforms. Had they done so, It wud have been a start of WW-3.
@Bon Plan, The truth is very difficult for you to digest. France was supposed to fire a total of 16 missiles. Each Rafale carried two and each M2K carried one of them. Your Frigate stationed in Med was supposed to fire six of them and ten being fired by Rafale. M2K were standby for these launch platforms. And we know now that the highly acclaimed, gods own technology failed not only from the frigates but also from Rafale. You guys have been reduced to being jokers once again like it happened with you in Libya.
So... Why didn't they shoot? You claim that four missiles failed to launch, and that the Mirages carried four extra missiles. Or are you claiming that there were eight missiles that failed to launch?
They did threaten to attack the vectors of the missiles. That's the aircraft and warships.
Rafale fired nine out of ten and one was jettisoned at sea as it failed to fire and Rafale could not have landed back with it on the pylon due to same asymmetry load problem. That frigate was supposed to fire six and could only fire three due to a massive glitch in its computer systems. And one of the standby M2K fired one missile to make a total of thirteen of which ten were fired from aircraft and three from the ship.
Electronics can never be full proof not even for USA too. The main thing is NATO accomplished their goal and poor Russia could not do much except for growling.
First of all, truth is truth. For me as for all the others.
So the truth (not mine), slightly different than yours, is that no Mirage 2000 involved some weeks ago carried SCALP. The 5 Rafale carried the 10 missiles. One failed. And it seems that it was jettisoned (or failed during flight?).
6 sea launched SCALP NAVAL was intended to be fired, 3 from one frigate, 3 from another one with a third frigate in back up. A problem occur on one of the first two frigates. And the time to find a solution and to decide to use the third one, it was too late according to the very narrow fire solution time.
USA is 7 times bigger than France. They fired nearly 80 cruise missiles (without any break down???) and France 12. Very logical my dear.
No.
The missile was jettisoned not because of asymmetry but because it wasn't safe -- it had been armed for launch, and it didn't launch. It might have launched unpredictably at some other time and caused unwanted damage. Jettisoning it was a safety measure. The asymmetry in itself isn't a problem.
Where did you see mention of a Mirage 2000 firing a SCALP in this operation?