They have already ordered 884 which is still a very large number and proves my point that cost of procurement is not an issue for USAF.
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884 versus 1500.... 59% of the target. If t's not a deep cut, what is it ?
Sir read again I have said 884 of 1500 are already ordered of which 400 are delivered and rest will be delivered by 2022 after that fresh orders will be issued. It is not cutback. Furthermore please compare 884 with 189 too.
Cost of procurement absolutely was an issue when they decided to slash the F-22 orders. Also, that wasn't a decision from the USAF. USAF wanted 750 F-22, and said 381 was the absolute minimum. If it was a decision of the USAF, the F-22 line would still be open today.
The F-22 were sacrificed so that the US Army could get more money to buy MRAPs. Afterwards, thousands of these MRAPs were abandoned in Afghanistan and Iraq because with the drawdown they didn't need as many anymore, and so it wasn't worth it to transport them back home. Eventually, some of them ended up in jihadi hands and were turned into armored VBIED. That's what the F-22 was killed for.
The F-22 were sacrificed so that the US Army could get more money to buy MRAPs. Afterwards, thousands of these MRAPs were abandoned in Afghanistan and Iraq because with the drawdown they didn't need as many anymore, and so it wasn't worth it to transport them back home. Eventually, some of them ended up in jihadi hands and were turned into armored VBIED. That's what the F-22 was killed for.
on these 400, how many FOC? how many in a real combat squad?
reality is that main of them will only be able to make air training, because their electronic system can't accomodate the futur combat mission softwares (when the dev will be finished... ie not tomorrow)
Lol so you are saying that USA has spend 1.5 tn dollars just for a trainer aircraft? Please come up with a better excuse.
NO. I just say that the first aircrafts are so differents than the actual ones that they will never be upgraded to last standard. So they will be only usefull as high end trainer for rookies or retired generals.
That is not our problem. The fact is US is procuring this fighter and procuring it in large numbers hence it proves my point that cost of procurement is never an issue for USAF
If cost of procurement is never an issue for USAF, why did they stop procurement of F-22 at 189 instead of 750 ?
While it was absolutely procurement costs that killed the F-22, not maintenance costs, because the Pentagon's budget was being bled dry by the futile and pointless wars it was fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq; maintenance costs are probably going to be what reduces F-35 orders by a third of the originally planned total.
Finally the Chinese may be interested in the Rafale.... 
Rafale pilots lured by Chinese generosity
According to our sources, a number of French Rafale fighter pilots have been approached by Chinese companies in countries where [...] (123 words)
CHINA/FRANCE : Rafale pilots lured by Chinese generosity
Rafale pilots lured by Chinese generosity
According to our sources, a number of French Rafale fighter pilots have been approached by Chinese companies in countries where [...] (123 words)
CHINA/FRANCE : Rafale pilots lured by Chinese generosity
Finally the Chinese may be interested in the Rafale....
Rafale pilots lured by Chinese generosity
According to our sources, a number of French Rafale fighter pilots have been approached by Chinese companies in countries where [...] (123 words)
CHINA/FRANCE : Rafale pilots lured by Chinese generosity
They probably want to buy 2 jets.
It's a joke about the F-35.
The F-35 Stealth Fighter Has Skills That "Every Pilot Dreams Of"
Perhaps apocryphal, the story goes that a senior US Air Force officer on the Joint Strike Fighter Program found himself sitting next to a Chinese general. ‘I like your aeroplane,’ the General said. That’s nice,’ said the American, How many would you like?’ The general smiled and raised a single finger. ‘Just one,’ he said.
For Rafale it's two because there's a single seat and twin seat.
one to fly test it, one to dismantle it.
They tried that with Mirage 2000 (true)
Bon plan
Can you tell status of promise on Kaveri, or any future plan of engine development in India with help of France??
Or plan of any engine development shelves???
Can you tell status of promise on Kaveri, or any future plan of engine development in India with help of France??
Or plan of any engine development shelves???