Sure? Rafale has to take of from Indian bases,drop payload and come back.
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Rafale fighter production 'alive' for next decade
Dassault can secure sufficient additional orders for the Rafale fighter to take production to at least 2030, but is unconcerned over any potential production gap with the next-generation combat aircraft it is developing alongside Airbus.
In 2018, the airframer took in additional 12 export orders from Qatar, raising the year-end backlog for the fourth-generation type to 101.
Of that total, 73 jets were due to export customers Egypt, India and Qatar and Dassault chief executive Eric Trappier believes more will come.
"Nobody expected us to sell to Egypt, including ourselves; the deal was done in two months," he says.
"I think in the in the coming years, new countries will come to the Rafale."
Current campaigns include Finland, India again, and Switzerland, where in each case Dassault faces competition from its European and US rivals.
But a loss against the Lockheed Martin F-35 for a Belgian requirement last year again raised the issue of European countries not supporting industry within the bloc.
While respecting the decision, Trappier adds: "Each country not buying European is not contributing to the development of Europe."
With the current level of orders, plus an additional commitment from France for 30 aircraft due to be formalised in 2023, Trappier says the production line "looks to be alive for the next 10 years".
However, with the Franco-German Future Combat Air System not expected to arrive for another two decades, Trappier acknowledges that "there is still a question of what we will do between 2030 and 2040".
If more Rafale orders do not arrive "this is life, we will have a plan B", he says, citing Dassault's "flexibility" as a small company.
In the meantime, in 2019 Dassault will deliver around 26 Rafales, including the first aircraft for India, which are due to be handed over around mid-year.
Dassault can secure sufficient additional orders for the Rafale fighter to take production to at least 2030, but is unconcerned over any potential production gap with the next-generation combat aircraft it is developing alongside Airbus.
In 2018, the airframer took in additional 12 export orders from Qatar, raising the year-end backlog for the fourth-generation type to 101.
Of that total, 73 jets were due to export customers Egypt, India and Qatar and Dassault chief executive Eric Trappier believes more will come.
"Nobody expected us to sell to Egypt, including ourselves; the deal was done in two months," he says.
"I think in the in the coming years, new countries will come to the Rafale."
Current campaigns include Finland, India again, and Switzerland, where in each case Dassault faces competition from its European and US rivals.
But a loss against the Lockheed Martin F-35 for a Belgian requirement last year again raised the issue of European countries not supporting industry within the bloc.
While respecting the decision, Trappier adds: "Each country not buying European is not contributing to the development of Europe."
With the current level of orders, plus an additional commitment from France for 30 aircraft due to be formalised in 2023, Trappier says the production line "looks to be alive for the next 10 years".
However, with the Franco-German Future Combat Air System not expected to arrive for another two decades, Trappier acknowledges that "there is still a question of what we will do between 2030 and 2040".
If more Rafale orders do not arrive "this is life, we will have a plan B", he says, citing Dassault's "flexibility" as a small company.
In the meantime, in 2019 Dassault will deliver around 26 Rafales, including the first aircraft for India, which are due to be handed over around mid-year.
Sure , better to use Rafale than a F-15: the range is similar combat range better for Rafale, ferry range better for F-15, the weapon load is also similar one ton more for F-15 but it's why combat range is better for Rafale, But the Rafale has an automatic ground following system which, combined with its greater stealth, greatly increases its survivability.
The Rafale + Meteor combo is even better. Everything about the Rafale is better than the F-15. And comes in at a cheaper price and no strings attached.
Price-wise evenly matched,and inthis world no one is having better experience than USA in aerial warfare. They must be knowing which missile will come in handy in actual warfare. AIM260 type rocket engined missile or meteor type aur breathing missile. I believe F15EX will be a formidable platform than Rafale
That's not how it works at all.
The Aim-260 is being built as a stopgap because the Americans are being threatened by the Chinese PL-15. The PL-15 is much better than the Aim-120D. Otherwise the Meteor is much more likely to be a far superior missile in comparison to both Aim-260 and PL-15.
The Americans have another missile called LREW, which will be their main AAM once it's ready post 2030. You can argue this is a Meteor-beater.
The Pentagon Is Quietly Developing A Next Generation Long-Range Air-To-Air Missile
The possibility of a two-stage air-to-air missile design is intriguing to say the least.
www.thedrive.com
And no, the F-15EX is much more expensive than the Rafale. Even the older F-15s that were sold to Qatar were much more expensive, let alone the F-15EX.
Qatar, France Sign $1 Billion Rafale Fighter Jet Deal Amid Gulf Crisis
Qatar announced Thursday a deal to buy 12 French-built Rafale fighter jets, as it faces a boycott by neighbouring Gulf states in the region's worst political crisis in years.
www.ndtv.com
Qatar makes down payment to Dassault for 12 more Rafale jets
This phase in the acquisition process indicates the Gulf state has paid its down payment, allowing Dassault to record the deal in its 2018 order book.
www.defensenews.com
The F-15s cost $12B for 36, that's $333M per jet. And they paid $9.1B for 36 Rafales, that's $252M per jet. And the weapons mix of the Rafale is superior to the F-15 package. Naturally, the operating cost of a smaller, lighter and more modern jet like Rafale will be cheaper than the F-15. We could be talking about a 30-40% cost difference between the two jets.
Anyway, it's easy to find out. Just wait for MMRCA shortlists.
Yeha,I have enough argument on mmrca1 in another forum.ultimately it got cancelled. Let's wait for the results. Hope present situation will change CDS's attitude towards Airforce & mmrca2.That's not how it works at all.
The Aim-260 is being built as a stopgap because the Americans are being threatened by the Chinese PL-15. The PL-15 is much better than the Aim-120D. Otherwise the Meteor is much more likely to be a far superior missile in comparison to both Aim-260 and PL-15.
The Americans have another missile called LREW, which will be their main AAM once it's ready post 2030. You can argue this is a Meteor-beater.
The Pentagon Is Quietly Developing A Next Generation Long-Range Air-To-Air Missile
The possibility of a two-stage air-to-air missile design is intriguing to say the least.
And no, the F-15EX is much more expensive than the Rafale. Even the older F-15s that were sold to Qatar were much more expensive, let alone the F-15EX.
Qatar, France Sign $1 Billion Rafale Fighter Jet Deal Amid Gulf Crisis
Qatar announced Thursday a deal to buy 12 French-built Rafale fighter jets, as it faces a boycott by neighbouring Gulf states in the region's worst political crisis in years.Qatar makes down payment to Dassault for 12 more Rafale jets
This phase in the acquisition process indicates the Gulf state has paid its down payment, allowing Dassault to record the deal in its 2018 order book.
The F-15s cost $12B for 36, that's $333M per jet. And they paid $9.1B for 36 Rafales, that's $252M per jet. And the weapons mix of the Rafale is superior to the F-15 package. Naturally, the operating cost of a smaller, lighter and more modern jet like Rafale will be cheaper than the F-15. We could be talking about a 30-40% cost difference between the two jets.
Anyway, it's easy to find out. Just wait for MMRCA shortlists.
No, asper his last statement Tejas will fill the requirements of mmrca
I saw lot of discussion on it in many youtube chanels. Yeas he said like that and he denied IN's requirements on INS Vishal
IAF chief contradicts CDS Rawat, says plan is to buy 114 foreign fighters besides LCA Tejas
CDS Gen. Bipin Rawat had said IAF was planning to buy the indigenous LCA Tejas instead of 114 ‘Make in India’ foreign jets.
theprint.in
Saw that too, i think CDS is having upper hand in.capital purchase, that's why that post is created and moreover he is a good boy in.political circles.IAF chief contradicts CDS Rawat, says plan is to buy 114 foreign fighters besides LCA Tejas
CDS Gen. Bipin Rawat had said IAF was planning to buy the indigenous LCA Tejas instead of 114 ‘Make in India’ foreign jets.
Only time will tell who will win in MMRCA2 CDS Bipinji or IAF cheif.
If u need MMRCA aircraft inducted, you ll have wait 10 years..
Better to buy another 36 Rafale,
And get tech for Mk 2 & Amca..
So far only Boeing has offered tech collaboration on AMCA ,but with a condition that F18 SH must be selected for mmrca & for IN next aircraft carrier. I think FA18 didn't impress IAF,so they have come up with F15EX. But don't know their offer is still exist with F15.
Between,yeah mmrca2 may not materialized in near future,I feel instead of 36 we should by 54 aircrafts .
Post Covid, closest Foreign important can only be Rafale..
36 samples for 5 billion $ .
At quickest speed.
MMRCA will take longer time and huge cost.
Anyways DRAL is progressively building up... Next 36 may be partially assembled here...
Money is there or not mmrca is a necessary,the recent Chinese attitude reiterate that requirements. We can see more aggressive China in future too. Yeas even if signnthe mmrca2 deal today,first jet will not come before 2024,I too favouring a gtog deal with french for next lost Rafale as a stop-gap ( I prefer 54)
Even in the current lot of F3R orders,
Last 1 or 2 will be assembled at DRAL,
To give some experience in building.
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This is still the same plan right?