There were rumors that 97% of all govt jobs will be reserved and 3 upper casts I.e. Brahmins, Khatriyas and Baniyas will get only 3%. This sort of nonsense added fuel to riots and unsocial elements exploited the situation. Those days communication was slow and TV was limited to Doordarshan only. By the time reality sunk in, damage was already done. Most of the rioters were not students and under the garb of the protest looted stores and damaged public property. Unfortunately quite a few students died in police firing.
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Agreed.
Means are different. But it is the same divide and rule anti national politics of the royal family.
Remember who propped up Bhindranwale? Or Shivsena or even gave MNS a free hand? Who made unconstitutional citizenship laws in Assam? Or rigged JnK elections? And that was just state level, imagine what they are capable of to get back control of the center?
DO you know how I recognize Islamist's ?
They never tiers talking about "hindu castes" and "dalits". Very much like BBC articles. Know anyone like that ?
Do you remember the name of the individual who had THIS icon against his name in PDF ?
There was a Top Hatter on the WAB.
Can't recall.
Cheers, Doc
Secularism isn't a dirty word.
Unless you want to sit here on an Indian forum and call your country dirty.
Cheers, Doc
As i said before ; When the Congress party started taking Hindus For GRANTED
Their ONLY Two concerns were Minorities and Secularism
This made the Hindus Realise that Congress is a MUSLIM PARTY
And Now Congress is Busy Fighting off this Stain on their face
BJP managed to convince people we are a Muslim party: Sonia Gandhi
I highly doubt that Iran will descend into civil war.
If anything, Pakistan will eventually be the refuge for the ayatollahs and their Basiji top brass.
It is Pakistan that is the proxy battlefield for the Persian Arab war. Not vice versa.
It becomes easy with a people of no historical identity of their own. A strong sense of self.
Both of which the Iranians have in heaps.
I've always maintained that Israel and Iran are natural allies.
You will be surprised at how things develop.
Cheers, Doc
It does not matter.
It is the Hindu majority that will boot the BJP out for wasting it's mandate.
Who will you target as your enemy then?
Self hating Hindus!
Cheers, Doc
It wasn't until it fell into the Congress Party's hand. They MADE it a dirty word, through their dirty intentions, dirty actions, and dirty misuse of the term to engage in the worst sorts of varied communalism and polarization for the sake of their own political gain.
They worked well with each other while the Shah was still around. Khomeini bandar ne aake sab chopat kar diya.
The movement that's happening is not at the level of Shahs and Ayatollahs.
Cheers, Doc
It is not a dirty word for most Indians who have never stopped being secular.
Cheers, Doc
May I ask where you saw 'Hindu' being mentioned in my post? I am very much aware of and accept that among the Muslims of the subcontinent and even among converted christians 'Caste' still exists. Heck, it is legally recognized. You can be a Buddhist and still claim caste based benefits -- which in-fact many folks do. Caste is a social construct in our subcontinent which exists parallel to religion.
Congress is neither a Hindu party nor a Muslim party. It is a family run business for all practical purposes. It will align itself to those who can be a part of its winning strategy. Historically it was left leaning, socialist party but no more.
Being secular, in real meaning is very close to being atheist. Funny thing is, within India no political party will like to call itself 'atheist' but a number of them will like to keep the tag of 'secular'. Secular simply means giving no shit to any religion, which ironically our country or our politics is not.
May I request you to comment upon, how much more intense the current polarization is as compared with that of early 90s. I believe you are one of the folks here who were in their teens or youth years in that time.
Did you grow up in India?
Did you do your schooling in India?
India has always been a secular nation of intensely religious people.
The atheistic argument is what we regularly hear from Pakistanis on PDF. Because they do not have a clue, being born and brought up in an Islamic state.
Which is the reason for my first two questions.
Cheers, Doc
As far as I know it was not just few folks died in police action but many student did self-immolation during protests. Few people I know tell me that long after VP Singh government, the protests slogans still remained on walls of offices and homes. I remember reading one in early 2000 with something on the line "VP's Mandal Bidi Bundle" on the walls of a railway station.
Not completely. Early years, yes.
In parts. My elementary education and some parts of middle schooling was done in India.
