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While I'm all for more Rafales, it needs to be a larger contract than 18 or 36. Preferably 90 jets MII.
We don't know what new radar the MKI will get. And we don't know if the engine will be upgraded. Most of the rest can be speculated since it's mostly Indian.
If the Chinese don't attack this summer, then it's unlikely they will attack anytime this decade. But that's just my opinion.
Rafale has the capability to hide from the J-20 and perform missions in contested air space. It's currently our only jet that can.
Against Taiwan, the Chinese need a better navy. But the expectation is that by the time the Chinese will fight Taiwan, there will be plenty of J-20s available. Although it's the navy that will see a serious upgrade, with brand new large LHDs and 2 new carriers to add to their first two.
Today, their J-20A is still a lemon. They need the J-20B, it comes with a new supercruise capable engine. Which is why I said in 5 years our air force will be useless. Within that time they should easily have 200+ J-20s in service. Then there's also a J-20C in the works with a whole new next gen engine. By the time the J-20C is introduced, we will need a pretty decent number of Rafales in service. Also the Su-57 if possible.
Dunno if it was across the LoC or not. The angle appears from well within the 10Km no-fly zone. But drones have crossed the LoC many times.
No chance for a drone to survive like that if the airspace was contested.
In moder era you cannot simply invade another country or area, no matter how authentic is your ownership on that land.
No, it's just part of the offsets related to the first batch of 36 Rafale.Does it mean mmrca2 Rafale deal is about to be signed? .
Yes, I do know.
Government of India may be holding on the order for Next tranche or mmrca2 Rafale deal to see if all the off set including help for Kaveri Engine is completed which safran was holding up. Now that safran is completing its obligations order for Next tranche may be placed...
For good measure and to abide to certain standards, here is an old footage of what I can only refer to as an "artistic object", perfectly depicting the kind of peculiar PR the french were producing back then, the taste of which you can still feel even nowadays in certain recent filmic productions regarding our favorite aircraft maker.
Each aspect of this "object" is like the delicate facet of a convolutedly carved gem that would be entirely constituted of stinky cheese and mustache hair on the molecular level.
It's called "Operation Global Punch", it makes zero sense to the point of being worthy of the french new wave cinema, it comes with awkward cuts, trippy music, english voice actors sounding like welsh sheperds, and, yes, it's about the Rafale.
Each aspect of this "object" is like the delicate facet of a convolutedly carved gem that would be entirely constituted of stinky cheese and mustache hair on the molecular level.
It's called "Operation Global Punch", it makes zero sense to the point of being worthy of the french new wave cinema, it comes with awkward cuts, trippy music, english voice actors sounding like welsh sheperds, and, yes, it's about the Rafale.
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Dassault Reliance Aerospace Limited (DRAL)
DRAL is a venture between Reliance Aerostructure Limited, 100% wholly owned subsidiary of Reliance Defence Limited of Reliance Group, a well-known corporate house in India and Dassault Aviation, International Aircraft Manufacturer of Military and Business Jet Aircraft based in France. Reliance is holding 51 % share and Dassault Aviation is holds 49 % share in Company.
Company has built its first Hangar as phase 1.1 of the total project, comprising of 150000 sq. ft, in MIHAN SEZ Nagpur which is operational since October 2019. Hangar so built is a state of art facility for assembly of Aerostructure sub-assemblies of Falcon 2000 commercial aircraft as well as sub-assemblies for Rafale Fighter Aircraft.
Company is in the mode of expansion and will be expanding its phase 1.2 in MIHAN SEZ Nagpur which involves two more hangars of similar size (150000 sq.ft each) comprising of a Final assembly line and sub assembly hangar.
Thales Reliance Defence Systems Ltd (TRDS)
TRDS’s state of art facility spanning 5 acres is located at MIHAN SEZ at Nagpur. The facility has been designed and constructed to latest 4.0 Industry Standards and conforms to ESD and dust proof environment Standard ISO 14644-1.
TRDS is one of its only kind of facility in India engaged in licensed manufacture, integration, final assembly, testing of AESA Radar and Electronic Warfare Suite for the fighter Aircrafts.
The facility is fully equipped with number of Special to Type Test Benches, Jigs and Fixtures for Radar and EW Systems and Generic Test equipment including CMM, X Ray machine, etc for repair and refurbishment of Blocks, Assemblies, Sub-assemblies and PCBs. The facility is also equipped with Radar and EW Reference Systems for calibration and benchmarking of the Systems.
TRDS through its trained manpower is engaged in providing Performance Based Logistic for Radar, Electronic Warfare (EW) suite and Electro Optic device of Rafale aircraft at the frontline airbases. The TRDS facility at Nagpur operates as the first line of support for defect rectification for these Systems in India.
TRDS along with its identified industry partners is also engaged in identification and indigenization of various components, sub-assemblies and assemblies for the Airborne fighter Radar and EW Suite and towards establishing a creditable Supply Chain.
TRDS is an ISO 9001 and EN 9100 Certified Company
DRAL is a venture between Reliance Aerostructure Limited, 100% wholly owned subsidiary of Reliance Defence Limited of Reliance Group, a well-known corporate house in India and Dassault Aviation, International Aircraft Manufacturer of Military and Business Jet Aircraft based in France. Reliance is holding 51 % share and Dassault Aviation is holds 49 % share in Company.
Company has built its first Hangar as phase 1.1 of the total project, comprising of 150000 sq. ft, in MIHAN SEZ Nagpur which is operational since October 2019. Hangar so built is a state of art facility for assembly of Aerostructure sub-assemblies of Falcon 2000 commercial aircraft as well as sub-assemblies for Rafale Fighter Aircraft.
Company is in the mode of expansion and will be expanding its phase 1.2 in MIHAN SEZ Nagpur which involves two more hangars of similar size (150000 sq.ft each) comprising of a Final assembly line and sub assembly hangar.
Thales Reliance Defence Systems Ltd (TRDS)
TRDS was incorporated on 01 March 2018 as a Joint Venture Company with Reliance (51% Shareholding) and Thales Group (49% Shareholding).TRDS’s state of art facility spanning 5 acres is located at MIHAN SEZ at Nagpur. The facility has been designed and constructed to latest 4.0 Industry Standards and conforms to ESD and dust proof environment Standard ISO 14644-1.
TRDS is one of its only kind of facility in India engaged in licensed manufacture, integration, final assembly, testing of AESA Radar and Electronic Warfare Suite for the fighter Aircrafts.
The facility is fully equipped with number of Special to Type Test Benches, Jigs and Fixtures for Radar and EW Systems and Generic Test equipment including CMM, X Ray machine, etc for repair and refurbishment of Blocks, Assemblies, Sub-assemblies and PCBs. The facility is also equipped with Radar and EW Reference Systems for calibration and benchmarking of the Systems.
TRDS through its trained manpower is engaged in providing Performance Based Logistic for Radar, Electronic Warfare (EW) suite and Electro Optic device of Rafale aircraft at the frontline airbases. The TRDS facility at Nagpur operates as the first line of support for defect rectification for these Systems in India.
TRDS along with its identified industry partners is also engaged in identification and indigenization of various components, sub-assemblies and assemblies for the Airborne fighter Radar and EW Suite and towards establishing a creditable Supply Chain.
TRDS is an ISO 9001 and EN 9100 Certified Company
France to sell Egypt 30 fighter jets in $4.5 bln deal -Egyptian defense ministry, report
France to sell Egypt 30 fighter jets in $4.5 bln deal -Egyptian defense ministry, report
Egypt has signed a contract with France to buy 30 Rafale fighter jets, its defence ministry said in a statement early on Tuesday, in a deal that investigative website Disclose said on Monday was worth 3.75 billion euro ($4.5 billion).
And there were people in India who complained about the fact that late penalties had been removed from the contract, because that doesn't exist in government-to-government relations.
India set to resurrect '101 squadron' at Hashimara base with 4 more Rafale jets
At the end of May, the Air Force will have 24 Rafale fighter jets in India, with another seven kept for training purposes in France and only five more to be handed over before the two squadrons are complete.
@Picdelamirand-oil what would be the future of Rafale fighters post 2040? Do you have any plan to upgrade Rafale beyond F5 version?
You will be getting new stealth fighter by 2040 I guess. So chances Rafale's time upgrade will be a problem after that time frame I fear.
You will be getting new stealth fighter by 2040 I guess. So chances Rafale's time upgrade will be a problem after that time frame I fear.
No, the Rafale was introduced in the Navy in 2004 and in the Air Force in 2006, and we still have 56 Mirage 2000-5F and 68 Mirage 2000D, compared with 102 Rafales in the Air Force and 42 Rafales in the Navy making a total of 124 Mirages compared with 144 Rafales.
We have just decided to modernize the Mirage 2000D.
If you look at the Mirage's characteristics, it is not ridiculous compared to a Typhoon, especially if it is part of a force where it can exchange tracks with Rafales, for example. So it's not because the NGF will be introduced that the evolution of the Rafale will come to a sudden halt.
the plan is to keep Rafale on line up to 2060 or 2070.
so F6 and F7 easily.
Along with SCAF Rafale will remain active. As Mirage 2000 now with Rafale.
Imminent announcement for Indonesia:
"The contract for the Rafale acquisition (36 to 40) is awaiting a (Indonesian) presidential decree, which will allow for the replenishment of Ministry of Defense budget lines to finance the purchase."
www.latribune.fr
"The contract for the Rafale acquisition (36 to 40) is awaiting a (Indonesian) presidential decree, which will allow for the replenishment of Ministry of Defense budget lines to finance the purchase."
L'Indonésie très, très proche de monter à bord du Rafale
Le contrat portant sur l'acquisition de Rafale attend un décret présidentiel, qui permettra d'abonder des lignes budgétaires du ministère de la Défense pour financer cet achat.
www.latribune.fr
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