Rafale DH/EH of Indian Air Force : News and Discussions

so why drop anti-corruption clause.
The same thing doesn't exist for FMS deal with US or enormous deals signed by Congress with the Russians.

If it is corruption, then review all the deals from Indira without the clause. (After the special relationship with USSR)

If descent/disagreement is worth enquiry then start with nehru/Menon for sidelining thimayya and the catastrophe of Sino-Indian war.
 
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They aren't talking about Soverign Guarantee here Ji. This actually makes things worse. On one hand state of France has not given a guarantee and then several commercial terms that can protect the deal - like Escrow and undue influencer clauses are missing. If you are that interested in just trusting 'friends' like France, maybe you should just rewind back to what our russian friends did to the Gorshkov deal.
 
They aren't talking about Soverign Guarantee here Ji. This actually makes things worse. On one hand state of France has not given a guarantee and then several commercial terms that can protect the deal - like Escrow and undue influencer clauses are missing. If you are that interested in just trusting 'friends' like France, maybe you should just rewind back to what our russian friends did to the Gorshkov deal.
FYI, Gorshkov deal was another marvel of UPA-1.
 
FYI, Gorshkov deal was another marvel of UPA-1.

so you want Rafale to be another Marvel? All those claims that MMS put national security at risk because he never closed deals....what has modi done in the ;ast 4years? Nothing. At least in the past the criticism was that people under Antony had become so scared of being called corrupt that they refused to take decisions. Here...being called corrupt is no problem for chowkidar.
 
so you want Rafale to be another Marvel? All those claims that MMS put national security at risk because he never closed deals....what has modi done in the ;ast 4years? Nothing. At least in the past the criticism was that people under Antony had become so scared of being called corrupt that they refused to take decisions. Here...being called corrupt is no problem for chowkidar.
Can ypou deny Agusta corruption? Can you deny you deny MMRCA fiasco? Who is to blame for it? Modi or Congress?
 
Can ypou deny Agusta corruption? Can you deny you deny MMRCA fiasco? Who is to blame for it? Modi or Congress?

How did MMRCA become a fiasco? No one in the world has questioned the choice of Rafale as a part of the MMRCA trial was the most transparent and well managed in the world. So much so that Brazil asked IAF immedeately for the evaluation report. And then Modi came to power...well...things were meant to roll downhill from then considering his incompetence and inability to lead.
 
No, it shows that people are lying about a crucially important part of Indian defense so as to score political points, meaning that they think the defense of their country is less important than their own career. This is the hallmark of a nation with a deathwish.
 
oh woww. He had an insight.
... And a vocabulary to match along with spell check. All of which you lack. You can't even string a single sentence together without committing a grammatical error/(s) and spelling mistakes. I'm not even bringing up a lack of clarity of thought or original insight.


The Congress since IG has only initiated "welfare" Schemes. They've indulged in developmental politics only if it boosts their coffers viz the Sugar cooperatives of Maharashtra.

Do you know why IG & later RG tapped into international defence deals to line their own pockets and that of their party? That's coz after the socialist policies of IG viz abolition of privy purses, nationalisation of banks, insurance companies, etc the industrialists had turned against her thus depriving the Congress of one it's major sources of funding.

And do you know why did IG adopt these socialist practises that bedevilled the Indian economy until 1991, when the PVNR/MMS duo were forced into liberalisation, it's due to political survival against the Syndicate in post Nehru / LBS Congress ( which went on to be Congress - O after the congress split in 1969) by pandering to populist leftist politics, where in her government at the centre was subsequently propped up by some of the Socialist parties , the Communists ( CPI), DMK, etc .


In fact the 1971 war itself was IG's way of consolidating her base at home. Something which paid her rich dividends in the 1971 elections ( she won by a landslide) having killed two birds with one stone - improved national security by breaking the existential threat to India from Pakistan into 2 and boosting her popularity at home.



Now go and read the history of politics in India post Independence before you formulate opinions which in most cases are extremely ill informed, biased, speculative apart from being blatantly false.
 
... And a vocabulary to match along with spell check. All of which you lack. You can't even string a single sentence together without committing a grammatical error/(s) and spelling mistakes. I'm not even bringing up a lack of clarity of thought or original insight.


The Congress since IG has only initiated "welfare" Schemes. They've indulged in developmental politics only if it boosts their coffers viz the Sugar cooperatives of Maharashtra.

Do you know why IG & later RG tapped into international defence deals to line their own pockets and that of their party? That's coz after the socialist policies of IG viz abolition of privy purses, nationalisation of banks, insurance companies, etc the industrialists had turned against her thus depriving the Congress of one it's major sources of funding.

And do you know why did IG adopt these socialist practises that bedevilled the Indian economy until 1991, when the PVNR/MMS duo were forced into liberalisation, it's due to political survival against the Syndicate in post Nehru / LBS Congress ( which went on to be Congress - O after the congress split in 1969) by pandering to populist leftist politics, where in her government at the centre was subsequently propped up by some of the Socialist parties , the Communists ( CPI), DMK, etc .


In fact the 1971 war itself was IG's way of consolidating her base at home. Something which paid her rich dividends in the 1971 elections ( she won by a landslide) having killed two birds with one stone - improved national security by breaking the existential threat to India from Pakistan into 2 and boosting her popularity at home.



Now go and read the history of politics in India post Independence before you formulate opinions which in most cases are extremely ill informed, biased, speculative apart from being blatantly false.

You said a lot of things that I didn't read because I know it won't have anything to do with the topic and it will be lame. (just letting you know coz you seem to be putting a lot of effort typing out these posts).
 
No, it shows that people are lying about a crucially important part of Indian defense so as to score political points, meaning that they think the defense of their country is less important than their own career. This is the hallmark of a nation with a deathwish.

The editor of the Hindu is a man of great integirty and patriotism.
 
The editor of the Hindu is a man of great integirty and patriotism.
He's a known communist. Someone who despises the Congress but in keeping with true communist ideology absolutely abhors the BJP.

The Hindu used to be respectable. But as of now is a leftist rag. S Varadarajan current editor of The Wire - another known leftist rag used to be the editor a few years back at The Hindu til both N Ram & he had a falling out.