Sukhoi Su-30MKI

No, making say Screws in India for Rafale in France, does not consitute as make in India
Thus, When we export grains, and the foreign company makes flour there and sells the flour, that does not consitute as make in India
Make in India would consitute more or less making the final product in India,

So making few parts of Falcon, can constitute as PART OF MII, its not really MII because the Falcon jets are being made and assembled in France.
So, MII has many aspects, where one part was Assembling in India, whcih we are doing for a very long time
Second was to make some parts in India and rest were made in India and the final product assembled here, We are doing that with Su-30 MKI
The final MII is to produce the entire product in India, hopefully with Indian content replacing the foreign content.
If going by your version, We are already doing MII for Chinnok..
Does Dassault have their jigs and fittings and line in DRAL in India?
It's pretty obvious you haven't read the 10 posts I bothered to translate or you would have seen that what Dassault is planning is exactly what you want for the MII in India.
 
Courtesy PKS 's Trishul blog

TRISHUL: Super Su-30MKI Has Taken Shape


The Super Su-30MKI airframe will also be flight-certified for flying terrain-hugging flight profiles (about 100 metres ASL), thanks to the terrain avoidance mode of operation of the AESA-MMR. Existing Su-30MKIs are not able to fly ultra low-level flight profiles since the NO-11M PESA-MMR does not have the terrain avoidance operating mode.

The last paragraph which I've reproduced here is intriguing. Your views @randomradio ; @vstol Jockey

This is very good upgrade package

No wonder we have become very demanding with the Russians in case of PAK FA
 
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MII already start with the current contract of 36 Rafale. MII is not the same than Rafale MII, for the moment it's mainly Falcon 2000 MII, but there is also Rafale parts which will be produced in India. I have translated an internal news from Dassault in a serie of 10 posts begining here:
MMRCA 2.0 - Update and discussion
This step is needed to set up Rafale MII, because Falcon 2000 MII is less complex compare to Rafale MII and it's a good approach to create skill in India, and an ecosystem, both needed for Rafale MII. Rafale MII will start with the next batch of Rafale even if it is only 36 Rafale.
The posts, I translated show the Dassault approach, but there is such plan for Thales and SAFRAN too.

That is very good news indeed

But what is not known is how much time it will take for the First MII Rafale to come out
After the Contract is signed

We will have 36 French Rafales by 2022

The MII Rafale deal will be signed only next year after elections
 
Courtesy PKS 's Trishul blog

TRISHUL: Super Su-30MKI Has Taken Shape


The Super Su-30MKI airframe will also be flight-certified for flying terrain-hugging flight profiles (about 100 metres ASL), thanks to the terrain avoidance mode of operation of the AESA-MMR. Existing Su-30MKIs are not able to fly ultra low-level flight profiles since the NO-11M PESA-MMR does not have the terrain avoidance operating mode.

The last paragraph which I've reproduced here is intriguing. Your views @randomradio ; @vstol Jockey

Nothing very special about it in terms of capabilities. We have the same with Jaguar right now. But this upgrade will bring the MKI to par with Rafale in many ways, with the added benefit that the Super MKI will have greater TWR and more radar range versus the Rafale F3R.
 
PKS has listed them well already. We will be getting newer and longer ranged weapons developed for Pak-Ka also as part of this deal. My estimate was 60 aircraft but PKS is reporting the deal to be for 80 aircraft.

Don't go by PKS's speculations.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if the MKI will have its airbrake removed, like on the Su-35. That will give it an extra ton of fuel.
 
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Don't go by PKS's speculations.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if the MKI will have its airbrake removed, like on the Su-35. That will give it an extra ton of fuel.
And canards too with carbon composite skin... to take it Su-35s standards. This will help keep the entire su30mki fleet relevant upto 2040-45.
 
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Nothing very special about it in terms of capabilities. We have the same with Jaguar right now. But this upgrade will bring the MKI to par with Rafale in many ways, with the added benefit that the Super MKI will have greater TWR and more radar range versus the Rafale F3R.

Will we go for 18 additional French Rafales or only MII Rafales will be the Next Contract

Or in other words How many Rafales will we have by 2023
 
Don't go by PKS's speculations.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if the MKI will have its airbrake removed, like on the Su-35. That will give it an extra ton of fuel.

Extra internal fuel

Wont that involve massive internal restructuring

That means only newly built planes can have this
 
Nothing very special about it in terms of capabilities. We have the same with Jaguar right now. But this upgrade will bring the MKI to par with Rafale in many ways, with the added benefit that the Super MKI will have greater TWR and more radar range versus the Rafale F3R.

We need something to shoot down the PAF AWACS in the first few hours

Whether it is a new radar or new missiles

Once That happens
All F 16s will be grounded
 
Will we go for 18 additional French Rafales or only MII Rafales will be the Next Contract

Or in other words How many Rafales will we have by 2023

36 only. The current contract did not have options. But we can sign up for a new tranche of 36 because of the IGA.

I'm hoping a contract for 36 jets is signed by 2020, so that the jets can be delivered between 2023 and 2025 from an Indian assembly line before the tender MII hits the ground.

Let's face it, the MII tender will be delayed, with no signature in 2022, and even MCA is set to be delayed. There is no way we will meet squadron requirements by 2032. We will most likely need another contract of 36 Rafales in 2022, which can be delivered from 2025 to 2027. Even if the second tranche is for 54 jets, we will be fine.

My gut feeling says ADA has set an unrealistic date for MCA FOC.
 
Extra internal fuel

Wont that involve massive internal restructuring

That means only newly built planes can have this

Not necessary. The Mig-29UPG underwent even more internal restructuring than the MKI has to in order to get an extra fuel tank.

We need something to shoot down the PAF AWACS in the first few hours

Whether it is a new radar or new missiles

Once That happens
All F 16s will be grounded

K-100.
 
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I believe thats not real.

Is DRDO developing SDR for IAF like IN? Or we are buying Rafael's for Su-30s, Tejas, Jaguar etc, anyone know?
Refusal of France and MBDA to integrate Meteor on SU-30MKIs or LCA has pretty much reduced the chance of large orders for Rafale.
 
Refusal of France and MBDA to integrate Meteor on SU-30MKIs or LCA has pretty much reduced the chance of large orders for Rafale.

Sir i was asking about what PKS said on his blog
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Did IAF signed the contract with Rafael or not? @Ashwin
 
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I believe thats not real.

Is DRDO developing SDR for IAF like IN? Or we are buying Rafael's for Su-30s, Tejas, Jaguar etc, anyone know?
There is no SDR for navy and SDR for IAF. SDR is communication equipment that uses sound card based processor and uses an antennae to send and receive signals.

The older radios used circuit based filters to amplify, filter and process signals (analog radios). SDR is quite common nowadays. Even you may be using it. The 4G VOLTE is for example, a SDR system.

So, there is no SDR separately for IN & IAF
 
Refusal of France and MBDA to integrate Meteor on SU-30MKIs or LCA has pretty much reduced the chance of large orders for Rafale.
Is there anything official about that?

I haven't heard about a demand to integrate Meteor on Tejas or MKI. And though I can see why it could be refused on the Su-30, I think integration would be accepted on the Tejas.
 
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Is there anything official about that?

I haven't heard about a demand to integrate Meteor on Tejas or MKI. And though I can see why it could be refused on the Su-30, I think integration would be accepted on the Tejas.
There are enough news items available to prove what I have posted here.