Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Focusing on stability & development is good, but not when it's directing at harrassing the neighbouring countries with war, terrorisms knowingly.
Such as? If you're saying that's the case with Ukraine then BS!
 
Millions of Congolese had to die as Western world had fetish for Congolese resources which it extracted by propping a dictatorship next door in Rawanda.

I have genuinely shocked that you all don't read history in Europe or what exactly? Not even the recent ones? Even Google is blocked in Europe?
What time period? The current leader led the country away from genocide, so it's not like they didn't have a dictator before him, even if your allegations are true.

Has India not helped prop up a dictatorship in Russia and an invasion by acting as a distribution outlet for its resources in a very open manner? How about concentrating on that rather than trying to blame every single war and act of terrorism in Africa on the west. The vast majority of the recent conflicts there are directly traceable to Russia and China.
 
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Russia has backed India everywhere when it comes to Chinese map claim.
If push comes to shove it won't, especially not now, because you just aren't that important to them. Even now they'd rather sell oil in Yuan than Rupees.

All your recent BS is just another RT/HT distraction from the thread topic. There is already a thread and a war created for that.


@Ashwin, please move all this off-topic horseshit.
 
Fact is Europe never felt ashamed for supporting military & junta regimes against democratic nations including when it suited them, don't come lecturing if you find India looking after our own interests.

We don't want war anywhere, period. If it happens, all efforts must be made for diplomatic peaceful resolution and to end the war immediate basis. We don't wish ill will towards neither Ukrainian nor Russian people.
You're supporting an actual invasion of a country with a population of 40 million, a country who's only recently helped overthrow several democracies in Africa.
 

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Such as? If you're saying that's the case with Ukraine then BS!
What the duck.

Western world supported Pakistani military dictatorship against democratic India, military dictatorship against Congo and many more, all in the name of promoting stability & development while these dictators continued to wage warfare against neighbouring democratic nations and Western nations turned blind eye for such warfare as they wanted resources from these nations by hook or crook. Not less than 6-7 millions were murdered directly in single country in last 2-3 decades only, so much so that even international agencies had to accept those horrowing stories.

You want the list, I can provide more but the real question is why don't European don't know even their recent past, forget about centuries of colonialism except when it comes Europeans themselves facing the internal blowback.
 
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What time period? The current leader led the country away from genocide, so it's not like they didn't have a dictator before him, even if your allegations are true.

Has India not helped prop up a dictatorship in Russia and an invasion by acting as a distribution outlet for its resources in a very open manner? How about concentrating on that rather than trying to blame every single war and act of terrorism in Africa on the west. The vast majority of the recent conflicts there are directly traceable to Russia and China.
See how you're proving my point. Europe and Western world is so good at white washing their recent acts, forget about previous generation acts in 2000s. We aren't talking about black book of colonialism or cold war which Europeans are incapable of understanding for obvious reasons.

Post 21930 should keep you enlightened for mere few seconds only as I know you are capable of white washing as well seeing past.
 
What time period? The current leader led the country away from genocide, so it's not like they didn't have a dictator before him, even if your allegations are true.

Has India not helped prop up a dictatorship in Russia and an invasion by acting as a distribution outlet for its resources in a very open manner? How about concentrating on that rather than trying to blame every single war and act of terrorism in Africa on the west. The vast majority of the recent conflicts there are directly traceable to Russia and China.
Whom are you going to blame for your own greed???






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If push comes to shove it won't, especially not now, because you just aren't that important to them. Even now they'd rather sell oil in Yuan than Rupees.

All your recent BS is just another RT/HT distraction from the thread topic. There is already a thread and a war created for that.


@Ashwin, please move all this off-topic horseshit.
Horseshit is when you're unable to manage your own home and blame a family living in another city for your mismanagement!

And regarding my post, it's directly addressing other poster claim where he said never did India got support from Russia against China's and my post just addresses that which conveniently you don't like!

Regarding another off topic from you, if Russia will support India in future? Why should it when India isn't supporting its aggression against Ukraine? It's not like India is too weak to manage its own fair share of problems on its own, especially with its current military & diplomacy muscle. Those, including Western world & Russia, who can contribute will continue to contribute to India's security directly or indirectly no matter what you blabber here day in day out just like our own fata hua radio!🤣
 
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They tried to hit our air defense. The Russians attacked the southern regions at night with missiles from tactical aviation from the Black Sea and tried to destroy our air defense. This was reported by the spokeswoman of the Southern Defense Forces Nataliya Humenyuk. Two Kh-31 anti-radar missiles were shot down over the Black Sea.
 
Horseshit is when you're unable to manage your own home and blame a family living in another city for your mismanagement!

And regarding my post, it's directly addressing other poster claim where he said never did India got support from Russia against China's and my post just addresses that which conveniently you don't like!

Regarding another off topic from you, if Russia will support India in future? Why should it when India isn't supporting its aggression against Ukraine? It's not like India is too weak to manage its own fair share of problems on its own, especially with its current military & diplomacy muscle. Those, including Western world & Russia, who can contribute will continue to contribute to India's security directly or indirectly no matter what you blabber here day in day out just like our own fata hua radio!🤣
What the duck.

Western world supported Pakistani military dictatorship against democratic India, military dictatorship against Congo and many more, all in the name of promoting stability & development while these dictators continued to wage warfare against neighbouring democratic nations and Western nations turned blind eye for such warfare as they wanted resources from these nations by hook or crook. Not less than 6-7 millions were murdered directly in single country in last 2-3 decades only, so much so that even international agencies had to accept those horrowing stories.

You want the list, I can provide more but the real question is why don't European don't know even their recent past, forget about centuries of colonialism except when it comes Europeans themselves facing the internal blowback.
See how you're proving my point. Europe and Western world is so good at white washing their recent acts, forget about previous generation acts in 2000s. We aren't talking about black book of colonialism or cold war which Europeans are incapable of understanding for obvious reasons.

Post 21930 should keep you enlightened for mere few seconds only as I know you are capable of white washing as well seeing past.
Whom are you going to blame for your own greed???






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Greatest distraction ever. A+ Half those stats are from 2022 before alternative arrangements were made. Oil traded via India is traded on an open market, the only way to block private companies from doing that is to sanction India as well as Russia, do you want that? I'd be glad to arrange it.

Africa - You make the great mistake of assuming governments there always know what people in their country are doing and the even bigger mistake of assuming that the US does and furthermore approves it. You say, "blah blah blah, supported dictatorship against the Congo." Congo is a f*cking dictatorship, both of them, even more so than Rwanda - 2.79 and 1.49 vs 3.1. Russia is 2.28 by the way.

Pakistan and India, Muslims and Hindus in general. Don't bother me with your mutual hatred and human rights abuses.

 
Greatest distraction ever. A+ Half those stats are from 2022 before alternative arrangements were made. Oil traded via India is traded on an open market, the only way to block private companies from doing that is to sanction India as well as Russia, do you want that? I'd be glad to arrange it.

Africa - You make the great mistake of assuming governments there always know what people in their country are doing and the even bigger mistake of assuming that the US does and furthermore approves it. You say, "blah blah blah, supported dictatorship against the Congo." Congo is a f*cking dictatorship, both of them, even more so than Rwanda - 2.79 and 1.49 vs 3.1. Russia is 2.28 by the way.

Pakistan and India, Muslims and Hindus in general. Don't bother me with your mutual hatred and human rights abuses.

We know how these rankings are generated!

BTW UK is great at promoting democracy all around the world, by topoling democratically elected governments & replacing them with autocratic military regimes, ah well we trust for stability & development, right?
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@BMD do you even have any idea how many times UK did regime change by backing military regimes against democratically elected representatives, by force, by assassination, by planting fake intelligence, well you know all dirty things available in UK kitty. Current state of Iran, Africa, Asia is all thanks to nobody else other than Western world, especially esteemed UK....
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We know how these rankings are generated!
Yeah, independently, you just can't handle the truth.
BTW UK is great at promoting democracy all around the world, by topoling democratically elected governments & replacing them with autocratic military regimes, ah well we trust for stability & development, right?
Put dates on them and post links. Delete the cases where they were dictatorships beforehand and also delete the cases where they are democracies now. Australia, since 1945, what the shit?
 
Yeah, independently, you just can't handle the truth.

Put dates on them and post links. Delete the cases where they were dictatorships beforehand and also delete the cases where they are democracies now. Australia, since 1945, what the shit?
Yes everything which doesn't subscribe to UK views is termed inconvenient, right?

Oh well you people don't even have an ounce of shame that you destroyed generations of people across Asia, Middle East, Africa and America....

@BMD we know UK education doesn't teach these facts which are very well documented. I doubt even Google may not free, hence lack of information on your part.
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@BMD do you even have any idea how many times UK did regime change by backing military regimes against democratically elected representatives, by force, by assassination, by planting fake intelligence, well you know all dirty things available in UK kitty. Current state of Iran, Africa, Asia is all thanks to nobody else other than Western world, especially esteemed UK....
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Yes everything which doesn't subscribe to UK views is termed inconvenient, right?

Oh well you people don't even have an ounce of shame that you destroyed generations of people across Asia, Middle East, Africa and America....

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Thank you very much for so much clearly saying UK & Western world doesn't want other countries & its people to have free will! All hail colonialism!!!

1953, 71 f*cking years ago. And the Shah was removed in 1979, did Iran become a democracy in the 45 years since? Nope. Lumumba - 1960, 64 years ago. Both were guilty of cosing up to Stalin, a genocidal mass murderer who'd annexed half of Europe.

If someone supports a dictator who's a real existential threat to us, we will not support them, regardless of how they got to power. They may have been elected, but those are clearly not the ideals they are supporting.
 
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1953, 71 f*cking years ago. And the Shah was removed in 1979, did Iran become a democracy in the 45 years since? Nope. Lumumba - 1960, 64 years ago. Both were guilty of cosing up to Stalin, a genocidal mass murderer who'd annexed half of Europe.

If someone supports a dictator who's a real existential threat to us, we will not support them, regardless of how they got to power. They may have been elected, but those are clearly not the ideals they are supporting.
Thank you very much for so much clearly saying UK & Western world doesn't want other countries & its people to have free will! All hail colonialism!!!
1953, 71 f*cking years ago. And the Shah was removed in 1979, did Iran become a democracy in the 45 years since? Nope. Lumumba - 1960, 64 years ago. Both were guilty of cosing up to Stalin, a genocidal mass murderer who'd annexed half of Europe.

If someone supports a dictator who's a real existential threat to us, we will not support them, regardless of how they got to power. They may have been elected, but those are clearly not the ideals they are supporting.
UK again did Congo in 2000s, come again....