Ukraine - Russia Conflict

No sign of shelling or of a TBM as claimed earlier or of a drone or aerial attack & we're supposed to believe Ukranian claims that they were responsible. That it could be an accident isn't even mentioned. This is the credibility of the western media & it's viewers who blindly accept whatever explanation is dished out with no application of their mind whatsoever.

Another fine example of the Irishification of western media & it's viewers.
It's not like any of us were there. Would we necessarily see a warhead coming down at M5.3 from CCTV footage a mile away though?

Yes Mr. Racist, next you'll be calling others Nazis too.
They lost a lot less in Afghanistan too barely 1/20 th of their losses in Vietnam. Did that win them the war just like Vietnam ? Btw what were the losses on the opposite side in both instances.

I've no clue. You're the one keeping track of Russian casualties. You ought to be informing us.
About 1 million in Vietnam and near 100,000 in Afghanistan.

Are you implying that dying more helps you win? That seems flawed.
 
It's not like any of us were there. Would we necessarily see a warhead coming down at M5.3 from CCTV footage a mile away though?
I think in the past 2 days you've linked multiple videos on the same incident out here . You should be able to point out at least one single video corroborating the charge the captions or commentary those videos carry on alleged Ukranian claims. Pls point them out here .
Yes Mr. Racist, next you'll be calling others Nazis too.
Only those who behave like Nazis i.e those guilty of causing the intentional deaths of a large number of innocent people and / or ghoulishly disposing off armed opponents.

The Azov Battalion - yours & the BBCs current heroes ticks both boxes . OTOH , Church mouse & the Raj check the first one at least in the last century. Their predecessors in the East India Company ticked both boxes in the century before last .
 
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Not no more.

Still does. Ntohing's really changed on that front. Why else do you think everyone's pulling their hairs out just because India abstained? It's way too much legitimacy.

This happened long after the invasion, so don't try using it as a reason for the invasion. You know how causality works right.

Nope, even before that. In any case it shouldn't have happened. We still have the vote in separatist areas in our country.

And that's why they set up the QUAD, to look the other way. You have to realise that relationships are give and take. You complain you want things like this, so the US sets up the QUAD but then you don't condemn the invasion of an independent democracy (which up to the point of the invasion and the UN vote had free and fair, monitored elections), and then you start acting like there is some distant conspiracy afoot to isolate India. You have no evidence for any accusations you make relating to present day or the future.

To India, QUAD is China-specific, nothing more.
 
The population there and in Crimea were disenfranchised because Putin annexed them and prevented them taking part in the elections you fool. Putin literally stopped them from voting and then blamed Ukraine. Systematic genocide my *censored*. Putin sent saboteurs over the border to attack troops and then when authorities clamped damn he cried genocide, same as in Georgia, same as Hitler did in Poland prior to WWII. The west does not need to do shit like this because people actually want to live here, that's why immigrants flock here. Immigrants do not flock to Putin. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Crimea, yes. Donbas, no.

Language laws are not disenfranchisement. Even Russian Russians would rather live in the EU, why do you suppose Ukrainian Russians would be any different? The EU support genocide? Now I've heard it all, the EU would rather allow its own people to be genocided than even implement sensible border policies.

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

So independent countries should not be allowed to join organisations as they see fit? Maybe India should be bombed for joining BRICS perhaps? Your excuses and justifications are all complete shit.

Some countries do not have an option but to get bullied. The West do the most bullying. But that's "justified" in the West 'cause there's too many sheep that believe in such a narrative.

War time policy. None of these bans were in place at the time of the invasion. Poroshenko, I don't know the full story, and neither do you.

Nope. Got banned way before. Started in 2019.

So why did Putin add to his demands the signing over of Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea officially, as well as not joining NATO or the EU? Something to do with where the oil and gas is I believe.

Lol, look up what's Ukraine's recoverable reserves and you will have your answer. If there were any, Ukraine would have been self-sufficient and been a major exporter.

Russia prevented Crimea falling into NATO hands as soon as the coup happened. Elections were held without Donbas after that. So the Ukrainian Russians were finished at that point. A real democracy wouldn't allow such a thing to happen.
 

List of killed/captured/missing Russian officers, March 24 (farewell to the 331st VDV regiment)​

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Killed/wounded list:
  1. Lieutenant General Andrey Nikolaevich Mordvichev, Commander, 8th Combined Arms Army, Southern Military District (killed Mar 16)
  2. Lieutenant General Yakov Vladimirovich Rezantsev, Commander, 49th Combined Arms Army, Southern Military District (pending, killed Mar 24)
  3. Lieutenant General Aleksandr Semyonovich Sanchik, Commander, 35th Combined Arms Army, Eastern Military District* (missing after heavily wounded, Mar 2)
  4. Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky, Deputy Commander, 41st Combined Arms Army, Central Military District (killed Feb 28)
  5. Major General Vitaly Gerasimov, Chief of Staff , 41st Combined Arms Army, Central Military District (killed Mar 8)
  6. Major General Andrei Kolesnikov, Commander, 29th Combined Arms Army, Eastern Military District (killed Mar 11)
  7. Major General Oleg Mitayev, Commander, 150th Motorized Division (Novocherkassk) (killed Mar 15)
  8. Major General Sergei Nyrkov, Chief of staff of 36th Combined Arms Army (Ulan-Ude) (wounded Mar 2)
  9. Chechen general Magomed Tushayev, Commander, 141st Rosgvardia Chechen Guard (killed, disputed Mar 1)
  10. Colonel Viktor Ivanovich Isaikin (killed Mar 2)
  11. Colonel Konstantin Ogiy, Head of Kemerovo SOBR unit, Rosgvardiya (killed Feb 28)
  12. Colonel Konstantin Zizevski, 247th Guards Air Assault Regiment (killed Mar 5)
  13. Colonel Sergey Karasev, Commander, 31st Guards Air Assault Brigade (Ulyanovsk) (Killed Mar 11)
  14. Colonel Andrei Zakharov, Battalion-tactical group Commander, 6th Tank Regiment (Chebarkul) , 90th Tank division (killed Mar 10) (given Order of Courage in 2016)
  15. Colonel Sergei Sukharev, Commander, 331st VDV Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma), 98th Airborne Division (killed Mar 17)
  16. Colonel Igor Evgenievich Nikolaev, Commander, 3rd Motor Rifle Division (Valuyki) (killed Mar 16)
  17. Colonel Ruslan Rudnev, Commander, 120th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment (Donma) (Pilot, Su-34?, killed Mar 1, given Order of Courage)
  18. Colonel Sergei Ivanovich Porokhnya, Commander, 12th Engineering Brigade (killed)
  19. Colonel Nikolai Ovcharenko, Head of Engineer Troops, 45th Separate Engineering Brigade, 1st Guards Tank Army, Western Military District (killed)
  20. Colonel Alexei Nikolaevich Sharov, Commander, 810th Separate Guards Naval Infantry Brigade (Sevastopol) (killed)
  21. Colonel Yuri Medvedev, Battalion-Tactical Group Commander, 37th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade, 36th Combined Arms Army (heavily wounded on Mar 11, given Order of Courage)
  22. Colonel Denis Nikolaevich Shishov, Commander, VDV 11th Separate Guards Airborne Assault Brigade (Ulan-Ude) (killed Feb 26, given Hero of Russia)
  23. Navy Captain (1st Rank) Andrey Nikolaevich Paliy, Deputy Commander, Black Sea Fleet (killed)
  24. Lieutenant Colonel Yuri Agarkov, Commander, 33rd Motorized Rifle Regiment. (killed Mar 8)
  25. Lieutenant Colonel Dmitry Sofronov, Commander of the 61st Separate Marine Brigade of the Russian Armed Forces, (killed Mar 5)
  26. Lieutenant Colonel Denis Glebov, Deputy Commander of the 11th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade (killed Mar 5, given Order of Courage)
  27. Lieutenant Colonel Okruzhnov Alexander Nikolaevich, Head of Artillery, 104th VDV Regiment, 76th Airborne Division (killed Mar 7)
  28. Lieutenant Colonel Alexey Narzullaevich Khasanov, Deputy Commander, 31st Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment (pilot, Su-30SM, killed Mar 5)
  29. Lieutenant Colonel Oleg Chervov, Deputy Commander, Aviation Regiment (Voronezh) (Pilot, Su-25, killed Mar 7)
  30. Lieutenant Colonel Renat Ravilovich Gaisin (killed Mar 10)
  31. Lieutenant Colonel Sergey Savvateev, Deputy Commander, SOBR unit (Vladimir), Rosgvardiya (killed)
  32. Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Pyatkin, SOBR Unit (Vladimir), Rosgvardiya (killed)
  33. Lieutenant Colonel Roman Ryabov, SOBR Unit (Vladimir), Rosgvardiya (killed)
  34. Lieutenant Colonel Mikhail Rodionov, SOBR Unit (Vladimir), Rosgvardiya (killed)
  35. Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Pozynych, Deputy Commander for Military-Political Work, 14th Guards Fighter Regiment (Kursk) (Pilot, Su-30SM, killed)
  36. Lieutenant Colonel Alexei Sharshavov, Commander, VDV 171st Separate Air Assault Battalion (Fredosia), 7th Guards Mountain Air Assault Division (killed Mar 7-9)
  37. Lieutenant Colonel Ruslan Gashiyatullin, Commander, Motorized Rifle Battalion (killed Feb 28)
  38. Vladimir Zhoga, warlord, Sparta Battalion (Lt Col equivalent?) (killed Mar 5)
  39. Major Andrei Petrovich Burlakov, Deputy Chief of Staff of the Russian Secret Service, Chief of Intelligence of Regiment, Rosgvardia (killed Feb 27)
  40. Major Ruslan Leonov, Commander, Spetsnaz Company (killed Mar 10)
  41. Major Alexei Ilnitsky, Deputy Battalion Commander, VDV 11th Air Assault Brigade (Ulan-Ude) (killed, given Order of Courage)
  42. Major Bezborodov Dmitry Valeryevich, Rosgvardiya battalion commander (killed)
  43. Major Vorsyuchenko Alexey Vasilyevich, VDV Unit #81430 HQ, 76th Airborne SAM Regiment (killed)
  44. Major Dmity Bezborodov Bezzhizninski, Operational Battalion Commander, Rosgvardia (killed)
  45. Major Alexander Sergeevich Fedorov, Chief of Communications and Deputy Chief of Staff of Unit #47130, 103rd Rocket Brigade (Ulan-Ude, Divizionnaya station) (killed Mar 15)
  46. Major Ruslan Vladimirovich Petrukhin, Deputy Commander, 38th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade, 35th Army, Eastern Military District (killed Mar 11)
  47. Major Sergei Krylov, Deputy Commander, 331st VDV Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma), 98th Airborne Division (killed Mar 17)
  48. Major Sergey Vladimirovich Kashansky, GRU/GU 24th SpetsNaz Brigade? (killed Mar 5)
  49. Major Dmitry Bukatin, 336th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade (Baltiysk, Kaliningrad) (killed)
  50. Major Oleg Mikhailovich Patskalev, Deputy Commander, 2nd Battalion, 331st VDV Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma), 98th Guards Airborne Division (killed)
  51. Major Alexander Viktorovich Shchetkin, Deputy Commander for Military-Political Work, 1st Guards Motor Rifle Regiment (Sevastopol), 2nd Guards Tamanians Motor Rifle Division (killed)
  52. Major Ratmir Kudayev (Police) (killed, given Order of Courage)
  53. Major Dmitry Toptun, Commander, Motorized Rifle Battalion (killed Mar 14)
  54. Major Sergei Volynets, Flight Commander (Pilot, Su-34?, killed)
  55. Major Alexey Nikolaevich Osokin, Commander, 1st Battalion, 31st Separate Guards Air Assault Brigade (Ulyanovsk) (killed Mar 3)
  56. Major Ruslan Vladimirovich Petrukhin, Deputy Commander, 38th separate Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade, 35th Combined Arms Army, Eastern Military District (killed)
  57. Captain Maklagin Vyacheslav Vyacheslavovich (killed Feb 25, given Order of Courage)
  58. Captain Aleksey Aleksandrovich Chuchmanov, GRU/GU 3rd SpetsNaz Brigade (Tolyatti) (killed Mar 3, 2022)
  59. Captain Yevgeny Ivanov, Platoon Commander, Russian 247th Guards Assault Caucasian Cossack Regiment (killed)
  60. Captain Sergei Aleksandrovich Visyach (killed)
  61. Captain Alexey Glushchak, GRU/GU 22nd Spetsnaz Brigade (killed, given Order of Courage)
  62. Captain Ilya Kuptsov, VDV 76th Air Assault Division, Intelligence Department (Pskov) (killed)
  63. Captain Ivan Sergeevich Afanasyev (Pilot, Ka-52?, killed)
  64. Captain Radzhabov Rabazan Gasainievich (Pilot, killed)
  65. Captain Emelyanchik Sergei Stanislavovich (Pilot, Mi-28n?, killed Mar 4)
  66. Captain Alexander Vladimirovich Shokun, Chief of Communications, VDV 11th Guards Air Assault Brigade (Ulan-Ude) (killed)
  67. Captain Nikitin Alexey Nikolaevich, 1141st Guards Artillery Regiment, 7th VDV Guards Mountain Air Assault Division (Novorossiysk) (killed)
  68. Captain Eugene Kislakov, 14th Guards Fighter Regiment (Kursk) (Pilot, Su-30SM, killed)
  69. Captain Eduard Gilmiyarov Rinatovich, Commander, 5th Airborne Assault Company, 31st VDV Separate Guards Airborne Assault Brigade (Ulyanovsk) (killed)
  70. Police Captain Opatsky Alexei Mikhailovich, Commander, Zyryanin OMON Special Purpose Mobile Platoon, Rosgvardia Directorate, Komi Republic (killed)
  71. Captain Dmitry Nikolayevich Chumanov, Commander, MLRS Battery (Ulan-Ude) (killed Mar 4)
  72. Captain Valery Alekseevich Kassaev, 3rd Spetsnaz Brigade, GRU/GU (killed)
  73. Captain Vladimir Bardin (Pilot, killed)
  74. Captain Andrey Vyshegorodtsev, VDV 331st Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma) (killed)
  75. Captain Yuri Vladimirovich Borisov, RVVDKU graduate, Company Commander, VDV 331st Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma) (killed)
  76. Captain Aleksey Dmitrievich Belkov (killed Feb 24)
  77. Captain Mardanov Alimamed Ruslanovich (killed)
  78. Captain Anton Kosmatsky, Company Commander, Battalion-Tactical Group, 96th Operational Regiment (killed Mar 12)
  79. Senior Lieutenant Alexei Aleshko, Military Intelligence Officer (killed Mar 10)
  80. Senior Lieutenant Andrei Shamko, VDV, GRU/GU 2nd Spetsnaz Brigade (Pskov) (killed)
  81. Senior Lieutenant Nurmagomed Gadzhimagomedov, company commander, 247th Guards Air Assault Regiment (killed, given Hero of Russia)
  82. Senior Lieutenant Nikolai Shumitsky, Tank Company Commander, 81st Tank Battalion, 42nd Motorized Rifle Division (killed, given Order of Courage)
  83. Senior Lieutenant Sergey Dorokhov, Rosgvardia SOBR team member (Vologda) (killed)
  84. Senior Lieutenant Aleksey Aleshko, Platoon Commander, VDV, RVVDKU graduate. (killed Feb 25, given Order of Courage)
  85. Senior Lieutenant Nikita Ivanovich Perfilov, VKS Russian Aerospace Forces (killed Mar 6)
  86. Senior Lieutenant Lazarenko Alexander Alexandrovich (killed, given Order of Courage)
  87. Senior Lieutenant Nikolai Symov, 331st VDV Airborne Regiment (Kostroma), 98th Airborne Division (killed)
  88. Senior Lieutenant Sukhovskoy Semyon Mikhailovich, Company Commander, 234th Air Assault Regiment, VDV 76th Guards Air Assault Division (killed Mar 5)
  89. Senior Lieutenant Sergei Zuykov Alekseevich, Rosgvardia (killed, given Order of Courage)
  90. Senior Lieutenant Vokhmyanin Alexander Viktorovich, Chief of Staff, Artillery Battalion (killed)
  91. Senior Lieutenant Maxim Vadimovich Susloparov, Unit #90600, 15th Separate Motorized Rifle Peacekeeping Brigade of Alexandria (Roshchinsky), 2nd Guards Combined Arms Army (killed)
  92. Senior Lieutenant Maxim Kholkin, Air Defense, 4th Military Base (South Ossetia) (killed March 7, given Order of Courage)
  93. Senior Lieutenant Anton Volkov, Translator, GRU/GU, (killed Feb 27)
  94. Senior Lieutenant Sergei Chudnik, Commander, Tank Platoon (killed March 16, given Hero of DPR)
  95. Senior Lieutenant Dmitry Vyacheslavovich Vdovin, Company Commander (killed, given Order of Courage)
  96. Senior Lieutenant Ilya Sergeevich Chernyshev, Commander, Armored Battery, 331st Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma), 98th VDV Guards Airborne Division (killed, given Order of Courage)
  97. Senior Lieutenant Nikita Samoilov, Deputy Commander, VDV Reconnaissance Company (killed)
  98. Senior Lieutenant Alexei Ivanov, 5th Separate Guards Tank Brigade (Ulan-Ude) (killed)
  99. Senior Lieutenant Yuri Inkin, RVVDKU graduate, Commander, Reconnaissance Platoon, 331st Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma), 98th VDV Guards Airborne Division (killed)
  100. Senior Lieutenant Tsyren Baldanov, Deputy Company Commander, 429th Motorized Rifle Regiment (killed Feb 28)
  101. Senior Lieutenant Vladimir Zozulin, VDV 217th Guards Airborne Regiment (Ivanono) (killed)
  102. Senior Lieutenant Vladislav Molchanovich, Platoon Head of Communications, 3rd Motorized Rifle Battalion, Unit #65384, 291st Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment (Borzoi) (killed Mar 12, given Order of Courage)
  103. Senior Lieutenant Kuznetsov Dmitry Olegovich, Deputy Commander, Tank Company, 200th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade (Pechenga) (killed Mar 2, given Order of Courage)
  104. Lieutenant Alexander Osipov, VDV (killed)
  105. Lieutenant Georgy Alexandrovich Dudorov, Deputy Commander, Military-Political Affairs, Recon company, 137th Airborne Regiment, 106th VDV Airborne Division (Tula) (killed March 6)
  106. Lieutenant Alexander Lebedev (killed)
  107. Lieutenant Vitaly Olegovich Golub , Platoon Commander, 20th Guards Motorized Rifle Division, 8th Guards Combined Arms Army (Volgograd) (killed, given Order of Courage)
  108. Separatist Taras "Clooney" Gordienko, Commander, B-2 Anti-tank group (killed Mar 14)
  109. Lieutenant Dmitry Chernyshev, VDV 247th Air Assault Regiment (killed, given Order of Courage)
  110. Lieutenant Daniil Dmitreievich Kurin, Reconnaissance Platoon Commander, 34th Mountain Motorized Rifle Brigade (killed, March 3)
  111. Lieutenant Georgy Dudorov, Deputy Commander, Reconnaissance Company, 137th VDV Airborne Regiment, 106th Guards Airborne Division (Tula), son of Alexander Durorov, the Deputy Governor of Nenets Autonomous Okrug (killed Mar 6)
  112. Lieutenant Ovchinnikov Lev Aleksandrovich, VDV 331st Airborne Regiment (Kostroma) (killed)
  113. Lieutenant Vsevolod Vasilyevich Yaroslavtsev, Commander, Mortar Platoon, Motorized Rifle Battalion, 126th Gorlovskaya Separate Coastal Defense Brigade (Perevalnoe), 22nd Army Corps. (killed Mar 3)
  114. Lieutenant Stanislav Olegovich Kutelev, VDV, RVVDKU graduate (killed)
  115. Lieutenant Brian Andrei Yurkov, Ground Forces Air Defense Officer (North Ossetia) (killed)
  116. Lieutenant Ilya Kurbatov, Platoon Commander, VDV 51st Guards Airborne Regiment (Tula), 106th Airborne Division (killed)
  117. Lieutenant Yaroslav Olegovich Ponomarenko, MVOKU graduate (killed)
  118. Lieutenant Alexander Shalygin, VDV 331st Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma) (killed)
  119. Lieutenant Ermakov Dmitry Vyacheslavovich, Platoon Commander, Mortar Battery, 25th Separate Guards Sevastopol Motor Rifle Brigade (Luga) (killed Mar 8, given Order of Courage)
Captured list:
  1. Lieutenant Colonel Krishtop Maxim Sergeevich, (Pilot , Su-30, captured)
  2. Lieutenant Colonel Astakhov Dmitry Mikhailovich, Rosgvardia (captured)
  3. Lieutenant Colonel, 247th Guards Air Assault Regiment 47th Bomber Aviation Regiment, 105th Guards Mixed Aviation Division (Pilot, Su-34, captured)
  4. Lieutenant Colonel Alexandr Oleksandr Koshel, Head of Information and Psychological Counteracting Group, 58th Combined Arms Army (captured Mar 22)
  5. Major Schetkin Leonid Petrovich, Commander and chief of staff, 35th Motorized Rifle Brigade, 41st Combined Arms Army (captured Feb 26)
  6. Major Rashki Shishkanov Dmitry Alexandrovich, Battalion Deputy Commander, 126th Gorlovskaya Separate Coastal Defense Brigade (Perevalnoe), Unit #12676, 22nd Army Corps, Black Sea Fleet (captured)
Arrested/MIA list:
  1. Army General Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu, Defense Minister (missing since Mar 11)
  2. Army General Valery Vasilyevich Gerasimov, Chief of General Staff and First Deputy Defense Minister (missing since Mar 11)
  3. Colonel General Sergey Orestovich Beseda, Director, 5th Department, Office of Operational Information and International Relations, FSB (arrested Mar 11)
  4. Lieutenant General Roman Gavrilov, Deputy Director, Rosgvardia (arrested Mar 17)
  5. Lieutenant General Vladislav Nikolayevich Yershov, Commander, 6th Combined Arms Army (arrested Mar 22)
  6. Anatoly Bolyukh (Lt. Gen equivalent), Deputy Director, 5th Department, Office of Operational Information and International Relations, FSB (arrested Mar 11)

Pretty much one of the reasons why I preferred we didn't go to war with China in 2020, our comm systems were outdated at the time.
 
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They lost a lot less in Afghanistan too barely 1/20 th of their losses in Vietnam. Did that win them the war just like Vietnam ? Btw what were the losses on the opposite side in both instances.

I've no clue. You're the one keeping track of Russian casualties. You ought to be informing us.

These western countries numbers are propaganda, this is what Russian Military reported today:

As of March 25, 2022, 1,351 servicemen were killed, 3,825 were injured" - Russian Ministry of Defense

Over the month, the losses of Ukrainian troops amounted to about 30 thousand people, including more than 14 thousand irretrievable and about 16 thousand sanitary.

The RF Armed Forces defeated 16 main military airfields from which Ukrainian aviation carried out combat sorties, destroyed 39 arsenals, where up to 70% of all stocks of Ukrainian military equipment were stored.

Of the 2,416 tanks and other combat armored vehicles that were in service with the Ukrainian army as of February 24, 1,587 were destroyed.

Out of 152 military aircraft, 112 remained, out of 149 helicopters - 75,

Out of 36 Bayraktar TB2 drones, 35 were destroyed.
 
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These western countries numbers are propaganda, this is what Russian Military reported today:

As of March 25, 2022, 1,351 servicemen were killed, 3,825 were injured" - Russian Ministry of Defense

Over the month, the losses of Ukrainian troops amounted to about 30 thousand people, including more than 14 thousand irretrievable and about 16 thousand sanitary.

The RF Armed Forces defeated 16 main military airfields from which Ukrainian aviation carried out combat sorties, destroyed 39 arsenals, where up to 70% of all stocks of Ukrainian military equipment were stored.

Of the 2,416 tanks and other combat armored vehicles that were in service with the Ukrainian army as of February 24, 1,587 were destroyed.

Out of 152 military aircraft, 112 remained, out of 149 helicopters - 75,

Out of 36 Bayraktar TB2 drones, 35 were destroyed.
I don't trust casualty figures declared by both sides of their own & those of their opponents.
 
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Strike on the Artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, hidden in the industrial zone of Chernihiv:

 
I wonder how long until Russian forces quit. :unsure:

Well it looks like I'll be getting mein answer soon.

Russia states more limited war goal to 'liberate' Donbass​


  • Military official says focus is on breakaway eastern regions
  • Russia says Ukraine's combat potential 'considerably reduced'
  • Russia says 1,351 soldiers dead, Ukraine says real number higher

LONDON, March 25 (Reuters) - In a scaled-back formulation of its war goals, Russia said on Friday that the first phase of its military operation was mostly complete and it would focus on completely "liberating" Ukraine's breakaway eastern Donbass region.

The announcement appeared to indicate that Moscow may be switching to more limited objectives after running into fierce Ukrainian resistance in a month of war.

The defence ministry said Russian-backed separatists now controlled 93% of Ukraine's Luhansk region and 54% of the Donetsk region. They jointly make up the Donbass.

"The main objectives of the first stage of the operation have generally been accomplished," Sergei Rudskoi, head of the Russian General Staff's Main Operational Directorate, said in a speech.

"The combat potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been considerably reduced, which ... makes it possible to focus our core efforts on achieving the main goal, the liberation of Donbass."

A senior diplomatic source in Moscow described it as a face-saving move and possible prelude to a climb-down by Russia. Its forces have become bogged down and failed to take any major city since invading Ukraine from the north, east and south on Feb. 24.

"Their war aims are/were much wider than Donbass, leaving their force divided with poorly coordinated attacks on multiple fronts by unprepared troops," the source said.

"I’d anticipated the possibility of a refocusing of effort back on Donbass, but while Putin rhetoric remains maximalist we need to see more evidence on the ground."

'DEMILITARISE AND DENAZIFY'

President Vladimir Putin says Russian forces are on a special operation to demilitarise and "denazify" Ukraine.


The West and Kyiv call that a false pretext to invade a democracy, saying his true goal was to topple the government.

Russia has also said it will insist that Ukraine accept the loss of Crimea, which Russia seized in 2014, and recognise as independent the Donbass, where Russian-backed separatists have been fighting the Ukrainian army for the past eight years.

Ukraine says it is willing to negotiate an end to the war but will not surrender or bow to ultimatums.

Rudskoi said Russia's military had considered confining its operation just to Donbass but opted for extending across Ukraine to damage its military infrastructure and tie down forces so as to prevent them reinforcing the east.

Russia did not rule out storming cities, he said, but as its military completed tasks "our forces and resources will be concentrated on the main thing - the complete liberation of Donbass."

Rudskoi said 1,351 Russian soldiers had died in the operation and 3,825 been injured. Ukraine's military has said some 15,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in combat.

Lol. Nothing says winning like saying F-this lets just pullback to Donbas and hopefully we can keep it.

Ohhhhh Ms. Cleo and Dione Warwick are talking to me from the grave and are telling me by late summer Ukraine will go on the offensive and will make a move on Crimea... Whoa. That is some predicticating. 🥴
 
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Well it looks like I'll be getting mein answer soon.

Russia states more limited war goal to 'liberate' Donbass​


  • Military official says focus is on breakaway eastern regions
  • Russia says Ukraine's combat potential 'considerably reduced'
  • Russia says 1,351 soldiers dead, Ukraine says real number higher

LONDON, March 25 (Reuters) - In a scaled-back formulation of its war goals, Russia said on Friday that the first phase of its military operation was mostly complete and it would focus on completely "liberating" Ukraine's breakaway eastern Donbass region.

The announcement appeared to indicate that Moscow may be switching to more limited objectives after running into fierce Ukrainian resistance in a month of war.

The defence ministry said Russian-backed separatists now controlled 93% of Ukraine's Luhansk region and 54% of the Donetsk region. They jointly make up the Donbass.

"The main objectives of the first stage of the operation have generally been accomplished," Sergei Rudskoi, head of the Russian General Staff's Main Operational Directorate, said in a speech.

"The combat potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been considerably reduced, which ... makes it possible to focus our core efforts on achieving the main goal, the liberation of Donbass."

A senior diplomatic source in Moscow described it as a face-saving move and possible prelude to a climb-down by Russia. Its forces have become bogged down and failed to take any major city since invading Ukraine from the north, east and south on Feb. 24.

"Their war aims are/were much wider than Donbass, leaving their force divided with poorly coordinated attacks on multiple fronts by unprepared troops," the source said.

"I’d anticipated the possibility of a refocusing of effort back on Donbass, but while Putin rhetoric remains maximalist we need to see more evidence on the ground."

'DEMILITARISE AND DENAZIFY'

President Vladimir Putin says Russian forces are on a special operation to demilitarise and "denazify" Ukraine.


The West and Kyiv call that a false pretext to invade a democracy, saying his true goal was to topple the government.

Russia has also said it will insist that Ukraine accept the loss of Crimea, which Russia seized in 2014, and recognise as independent the Donbass, where Russian-backed separatists have been fighting the Ukrainian army for the past eight years.

Ukraine says it is willing to negotiate an end to the war but will not surrender or bow to ultimatums.

Rudskoi said Russia's military had considered confining its operation just to Donbass but opted for extending across Ukraine to damage its military infrastructure and tie down forces so as to prevent them reinforcing the east.

Russia did not rule out storming cities, he said, but as its military completed tasks "our forces and resources will be concentrated on the main thing - the complete liberation of Donbass."

Rudskoi said 1,351 Russian soldiers had died in the operation and 3,825 been injured. Ukraine's military has said some 15,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in combat.

Lol. Nothing says winning like saying F-this lets just pullback to Donbas and hopefully we can keep it.

Ohhhhh Ms. Cleo and Dione Warwick are talking to me from the grave and are telling me by late summer Ukraine will go on the offensive and will make a move on Crimea... Whoa. That is some predicticating. 🥴

Nothing surprising. Too many fronts, too few troops. The Russians disrespected Lanchester's Square Law. You never disrespect math. All made worse by deliberately reducing firepower.

Plus there's no point in taking the cities through violence. It will backfire. So it's a good idea to stick to areas where the Russian troops are actually welcomed. All their other objectives can be met on the table, like the Finlandisation of Ukraine.
 
Nothing surprising. Too many fronts, too few troops. The Russians disrespected Lanchester's Square Law. You never disrespect math. All made worse by deliberately reducing firepower.

Plus there's no point in taking the cities through violence. It will backfire. So it's a good idea to stick to areas where the Russian troops are actually welcomed. All their other objectives can be met on the table, like the Finlandisation of Ukraine.
Pfft. Math can suck a fat one. As for the Russians this was a tactical blunder and severe lack of capability nothing more nothing less.
 
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