Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Actually India is not expecting any support from anybody.

Neutrality has nothing to do with what you think it is. It only means we want to keep our relations going as they were before without us taking any political side. Being neutral means we do not share your views, we simply have our own views.

You sound like one of your college feminists. "If you don't agree with me, then you're a bigot".

For India, the main concern is China. If you also have the same concern, then we can share objectives. Everything else is your own headache, we don't wanna deal with your sh!t. The fact is the US needs India more than India needs the US.

Most of the world doesn't think of Putin as a war criminal anyway. Only sheep do.
No, it is you that doesn't understand the meaning of neutrality. Supplying Russian oil to other countries to bypass sanctions for Russia is definitely not neutrality and won't be seen as such. Getting oil for your own needs only would.

You are a bigot, you claim Ukraine is not a democracy because of an index on corruption, which actually doesn't have anything to do with democracy, since both dictatorships and democracies can be corrupt financially, the only difference is that a free press and free voting allow the latter to improve over time. Then you claim India is still a democracy despite being ranked as having major problems on the same list, even though it's had 75 years of independence and hasn't been under an ongoing invasion war during all of that time.

It's simple really, you can either accept that Ukraine and India are both democracies, or you say that neither is. You cannot have one is and one isn't, that is bigotry.

Deal with your problems yourself. When China invades you, we'll continue buying cheaply made electronics from them and claim to be neutral.

Satellite images show bodies on the streets of Bucha before Russian forces even left, every European leader that's seen the reports agrees there is clear evidence having examined all the facts and photos, and that is on top of the hospital and shelter bombing. Deny it all you like, he is a war criminal and your opinion is irrelevant, since you will just fool yourself into believing whatever is necessary to maintain military hardware support and profit from the situation.
 
Deal with your problems yourself. When China invades you, we'll continue buying cheaply made electronics from them and claim to be neutral.
I don't think anybody in this forum or anywhere in India has any illusions of receiving help from the west or anybody else when we get into a war with China leave aside UK whom even the Iranians have exposed as utterly impotent repeatedly. 🤣

Fancy Paddy punching above his weight like UK tends to do repeatedly only for an Iran to grab it's boxers , pull them down & expose the Brits as lacking balls . 🤣🤣

Chappie here expects us to believe UK is some great power with an ubiquitous presence across the world . What a hoot !!
 
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Clear Video: Russian drone "Pacer" in the area of the stronghold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

 
The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation showed footage of the destruction of the UAV "Bayraktar TB2":

 
Russia has lost some low flying fighter planes to MANPADS

So they were flying low to avoid Radar detection

We also use our JAGUARS for low level attacks

So does this mean our Jaguars are unsuitable for low level attacks , given the threat of MANPADS
 
Some more Western weapons captured by Russian forces:

Oh man ! I feel bad for Europe . Tomorrow if this goes off in some European capital or major city how is the world to know if it's the Russians who did it or the Ukrainians who sold it cheap in the black market ? Points to ponder Paddy & Sweetie ! @BMD ; @Innominate
 
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Russia has lost some low flying fighter planes to MANPADS

So they were flying low to avoid Radar detection

We also use our JAGUARS for low level attacks

So does this mean our Jaguars are unsuitable for low level attacks , given the threat of MANPADS
Any aircraft flying low is susceptible to MANPADS, MANPADS is also very jam/ECM resistant and relatively cheap. At least at altitude you make the enemy pay for a decent missile and give yourself more of a chance at jamming, evasion or attacking the threat radar.
The column of Russians is broken. Rashists destroyed. Perfect work of our military.

 
Any aircraft flying low is susceptible to MANPADS, MANPADS is also very jam/ECM resistant and relatively cheap. At least at altitude you make the enemy pay for a decent missile and give yourself more of a chance at jamming, evasion or attacking the threat radar.

I am just wondering about the Close Air Support role played by Jaguars in IAF , given the threat posed by MANPADS

We have even equipped them with CBU 105 Tank bursting munitions from US
 
I am just wondering about the Close Air Support role played by Jaguars in IAF , given the threat posed by MANPADS

We have even equipped them with CBU 105 Tank bursting munitions from US
Good opportunity for IAF to re look their modernization plans once again & standardise their equipment viz as far as possible equip all fighters with AESA radars , EA , SPJs / ECMs , ECCMs , MAWS , LWR , RWR , DIRCM , IRST , etc .

It's bad enough we're not moving on procuring more Rafales & the MRFA is progressing at it's own pace but our modernization / upgradation activities themselves leave a lot to be desired. A good case in point are the MKIs & they're the backbone of the IAF .
 
Good opportunity for IAF to re look their modernization plans once again & standardise their equipment viz as far as possible equip all fighters with AESA radars , EA , SPJs / ECMs , ECCMs , MAWS , LWR , RWR , DIRCM , IRST , etc .

It's bad enough we're not moving on procuring more Rafales & the MRFA is progressing at it's own pace but our modernization / upgradation activities themselves leave a lot to be desired. A good case in point are the MKIs & they're the backbone of the IAF .

Aircrafts and Helicopters are very expensive , but creating a large number of AGILE Anti Aircraft Units within the Land Forces , equipped with Good quality MANPADS is possible for every country

Same is true for ATGM equipped
Tank destroyer Units

The other day Gen BAJWA Was also alluding to the Agility aspect of Ukrainian forces in an indirect
Reference to India

On our part we would require much larger numbers of SAAW bombs

Their range -- 100 Km and Weight ie 125 Kg is ideal for Close Air support
 
 
If this is true, the Russians should apprehend them & parade them in front of the world media, particularly the Brits who deserve to be sodomized with a stick laced with extra hot chilli sauce with the stick left in their rear during such a parade , for punching way above their weight .

So much for the charade that NATO wasn't involved. They're neck deep in it. @BMD
 
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Believe that when I see it. It's like saying that some of Putin's poisoners have got stuck in Millwall football stadium and are in discussions with fans to let them leave.
 
Tank driver was so ashamed of Putin that he wished the ground would open up and swallow him. It did.

 
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