Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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Oh but now they're saying that Kinzhal isn't the real deal like Zircon. I don't even know how 'operational' the likes of Zircon and Avangard are, if it wasn't for the Ukraine War, people would look at Moscow parades and assume that the T-14 is operational. Oh and don't forget the unbeatable Russian integrated air defences.
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The collapse is based on the premise that the Russians will actually mobilise and launch an invasion with their air force, the former has happened only partially, and I don't know to what extent, and the latter is yet to happen.
As for your second sentence, it's weird, I wouldn't term it like that, nor did I, based on my posts from a month before the war, believe that it will be a walk in the park for the Russians.
Sure. And they are the ones doing all the fighting as well. Obviously the experience accrues too.
Lol. It's just dirty laundry and jealous generals.
Yeah. But what the Russians have done, they could even before they invaded. But, nah, Putin's people thought there won't be a war with enough show of force, which was completely retarded. Got caught with their pants down while holding something.
You also forget that people fighting currently are largely untrained prisoners who are learning on the job.
After the initial show of force, no. The AF has mainly been running BARCAPS and some support and interdiction and strike missions, but nothing beyond that. Nothing like what they did in Syria.
This is for randomradio and his "common sense" mind.
The arguments being made against my argument are also common sense arguments, not definite technical arguments, if you didn't notice.
1. That's too small to be the outer body of the Kinzhal. > Common sense.
2. That looks like the unitary warhead inside the Kinzhal. > Common sense.
The only thing we know now is a Kinzhal was intercepted, 'cause of the Pentagon, but that doesn't mean what was used for the photo op was actually the Kinzhal in question.
Nope, no way will an object with fins and intake survives Mach 5+ at low altitude. This is a commonly held fallacy. The temperatures are unmanageable.
The air force has failed to achieve air superiority and suffered heavy losses before giving up. At least recognise reality.
Yeah, so you were wrong. Listen to Prigozhin himself on the matter:
You must get tired of being wrong all the time.
There are two PMCs fighting with experienced veterans and special forces units.
Russia hasn't fought a war against a decent adversary for nearly 80 years.
Again, mobilisation, even in part is hard. There are defence industry staff working 300 hours per month and having pay withheld as it is.
Because it can't. Realise reality and admit it.
Full BS mode.
Third party
Ministry of petroleum on full onmode!
Heavy losses? Are you serious? Most of their aerial losses happened over a long period of time.
Oryx records the first Su-30SM shot down on the 3rd of March and the first Su-34 on the 1st of March, with just a handful actually shot down in the first week of March. That's pretty much a week after the war began. The RuAF didn't commit as much as you think to their SEAD/DEAD effort. It's also one of the reasons why they call it SMO instead of a war. I'd really like to see what NATO can do on the ground without an air force, especially when up against NATO++ ISR capabilities, you know, 'cause NATO's operating their ISR network without being challenged.
He is glorifying his own units and admonishing regular forces. What you are looking at is a domestic spat.
Er... yeah, that's what I'm saying. Let me say it in terms you understand. He's saying "Wagner army stronk, Ruski army weak, running away".
He's in a political feud with generals in the regular army. He's doing so well, others are just jealous. Probably miffed at the fact that they can't lead any of the offensives. Even the Severo-Lysy offensive was lead by Wagner.
I've stated this before, and I'll state it again, if Putin had received proper intelligence about the resolve of the Ukrainians, he would have done something entirely different instead of this clusterfvck.
Yeah, dude, keep telling yourself that.
Norwegian instructors train Ukrainian soldiers in Germany. The Ukrainians are using borrowed German gear.
I like how RandomRadio's "Common sense" is completely at odds with the Pentagon's assessment.
Not just a helicopter. An Su-34, an Su-35 and two Mi-8 helicopters. Four different aircraft in one day.
I like how RandomRadio's "Common sense" is completely at odds with the Pentagon's assessment
.Not just a helicopter. An Su-34, an Su-35 and two Mi-8 helicopters. Four different aircraft in one day.
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