Ukraine - Russia Conflict

[BMD]

The fate of ordinary civilians & people of Ukraine was never the concern of powers that be. While the great game will go on; Russia, the West & the Ukr govt, all sacrificed peace as a recourse. The same Peace, which now looks a certainty post this unavoidable war. #warinUkraine

— Sameer Joshi (@joe_sameer) March 13, 2022

By prolonging this war ,the suffering of Ukranian Civilians is being deliberately increased so as to make Russia look like the Bad Guy

Russia is the bad guy for anyone with two brain cells to rub together. You can't invade a democratic country just because you don't like their political direction and be determined to be the good guy.

It's like saying, "India's struggle for independence was just to make the British Empire look like the bad guys."

How dare anyone defend the right to self-determination for democracies. Who the hell do these people think they are?

Putin is the only person at fault here, he can end the war any time he likes by simply returning Russian forces to Russia where they belong.

 

[Picdelamirand-oil]

Update on operations in Ukraine 13 March D+17

General situation

Apart from the siege of Mariupol, Russian offensive ground operations are limited to a few advances in the northern sector (Chernihiv, East Kiev) and the south-west near Kherson. On the other hand, the Russian forces are on the defensive on the Soumy-Kiev axis, which they are obliged to reinforce against the Ukrainian harassment. The Russians are seeking to relaunch a third phase of offensive operations, probably more sequential (one major objective after the other) by the arrival of external reinforcements and the recovery of forces after the capture of Marioupol and/or the reduction of certain pockets of resistance.

Specific situations

West: establishment of five Belarusian task forces on the western border with Ukraine to fight against "Ukrainian infiltration". Strong internal reluctance.

Kiev-North: Russian preparations to bring down pockets of Ukrainian resistance. Very intertwined and difficult fighting between two Russian armies (41st and 2nd) and a dozen regular or territorial Ukrainian brigades (between 2,000 and 3,000 men), most of them in the Chernihiv-Nizhyn pocket.

Western Kiev: the 35th and 36th Russian armies are in operational pause, before relaunching attacks in the coming days, probably still in the area of Irpin (West) and Vassylkiv (Southwest). Local Ukrainian counter-attacks.

East Kiev: limited Russian (6th Tank Regiment?) re-launch in the Skybin area and road M01. First use of Russian armed drones in the Kiev area (one shot down).

The Soumy-Kiev road is a specific battle.

East: intertwined fighting around Soumy and several pockets of resistance. Indecisive fighting in the Kharkiv region. Heavy fighting in the Izium region south-east of Kharkiv.

South: major Russian effort on Mariupol, assault and heavy pressure on the population. Limited fighting in the Kherson region.

 

[RISING SUN]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502925963465797632

 

[randomradio]

Oh sure they were. What about North Korea? Even copying requires some skill. You can copy a chip design, but what you can't copy is the fabrication method.

You can copy the fabrication method when you stop respecting IPR.

Now, can Russia do it? I have no idea. But can China do it? Definitely.

You don't but the WTO ensures reasonable tariff levels and access to all markets. There will be no access whatsoever for people breaching copyright and trading in such merchandise.

Lol. No one is saying the Russians will export their copies. WTO only decides process, or manages trade disputes between two willing parties, it's not the UNSC to place sanctions, meaning it does not judge. And WTO is bypassed by FTAs and other economic blocs.

Site is blocked because of ad-blocker. You have a vote at the UN.

He basically says India's too big not to be part of the UNSC, and that India can make its own decisions about foreign policy, including our option of choosing neutrality.

 

[randomradio]

They have numerical superiority. It's no propaganda piece, the Russian performance has been dismal. Even the bottom rung of the Russian IADS should have been able to deal with drones, it's just not very well integrated. It also underestimated the enemy by an order of magnitude, which is understand. Don't forget, Ukraine was a country still in some disarray following 2013/14.

Yeah, dude, nice propaganda. Welcome to a modern war.

They haven't underestimated the enemy, they have underestimated their resolve.

 

[lcafanboy]

The Zorya-Mashproekt plant, which produces gas turbine propulsion systems for most #IndianNavy ships, after a night #missile strike . pic.twitter.com/yiCgglbE2g

— Ninjamonkey 🇮🇳 (@Aryan_warlord) March 13, 2022

 

[BMD]

Yeah, dude, nice propaganda. Welcome to a modern war.

They haven't underestimated the enemy, they have underestimated their resolve.

Check your facts.

Russia has amassed up to 190,000 troops on Ukraine borders, US warns

Country says Russia undertaking the ‘biggest mobilisation of troops since the second world war’

www.theguardian.com

They thought it would be like Georgia in 2008, they also overestimated their own capabilities because they're used to practicing in an area where they are uncontested in the air or on the ground.

 

[_Anonymous_]

The Zorya-Mashproekt plant, which produces gas turbine propulsion systems for most #IndianNavy ships, after a night #missile strike . pic.twitter.com/yiCgglbE2g

— Ninjamonkey 🇮🇳 (@Aryan_warlord) March 13, 2022

I guess in the next couple of years multiple ships would be under refit mode for an indefinite amount of time. I'm waiting for someone here to spin this piece of news positively.

 

[BMD]

You can copy the fabrication method when you stop respecting IPR.

Now, can Russia do it? I have no idea. But can China do it? Definitely.



Lol. No one is saying the Russians will export their copies. WTO only decides process, or manages trade disputes between two willing parties, it's not the UNSC to place sanctions, meaning it does not judge. And WTO is bypassed by FTAs and other economic blocs.



He basically says India's too big not to be part of the UNSC, and that India can make its own decisions about foreign policy, including our option of choosing neutrality.

Nope, you can't. Being able to fabricate at 5nm requires methodology that the Russians do not yet have. Like when they tried to copy a stealth fighter.

The countries in the WTO decide whether people are respecting the terms, which means IPR.

WTO | Understanding the WTO - Intellectual property: protection and enforcement

The WTOs Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS), negotiated during the 1986-94 Uruguay Round, introduced intellectual property rules into the multilateral trading system for the first time.

www.wto.org

They can simply refuse business with Russia, or anyone complicit in their illegality.

The Zorya-Mashproekt plant, which produces gas turbine propulsion systems for most #IndianNavy ships, after a night #missile strike . pic.twitter.com/yiCgglbE2g

— Ninjamonkey 🇮🇳 (@Aryan_warlord) March 13, 2022

So a Russian missile hit a plant that produces engines for the Indian Navy basically.

 

[_Anonymous_]

Nope, you can't. Being able to fabricate at 5nm requires methodology that the Russians do not yet have. Like when they tried to copy a stealth fighter.

The countries in the WTO decide whether people are respecting the terms, which means IPR.

WTO | Understanding the WTO - Intellectual property: protection and enforcement

The WTOs Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS), negotiated during the 1986-94 Uruguay Round, introduced intellectual property rules into the multilateral trading system for the first time.

www.wto.org

They can simply refuse business with Russia, or anyone complicit in their illegality.

So a Russian missile hit a plant that produces engines for the Indian Navy basically.

Paddy, you goddamned certified fool. When you've thrown the entire kitchen sink in terms of sanctions what exactly are you going to trade in? Secondly even if Russia gets chucked out of WTO which seems unlikely, it'd be a long drawn out affair. Finally, membership or otherwise of the WTO isn't a qualifier for trade. They'd happen regardless.

 

[lcafanboy]

I guess in the next couple of years multiple ships would be under refit mode for an indefinite amount of time. I'm waiting for someone here to spin this piece of news positively.

LM2500 is already being Licenced manufactured by HAL. I think we have no other options till we have our own marine engine based on future turbofan whether kaveri or new turbofan based on HAL and Rolls Royce or Snecma joint efforts...

 

[_Anonymous_]

LM2500 is already being Licenced manufactured by HAL. I think we have no other options till we have our own marine engine based on future turbofan whether kaveri or new turbofan based on HAL and Rolls Royce or Snecma joint efforts...

I haven't kept track of this , tbh. But assuming half our boats come equipped with Ukranian built marine engines , how many of them are with LM2500 , what about the rest & what about spares ?

 

[BMD]

Nerves on edge in Poland as war next door in Ukraine revives fears of Russia

Anxiety grows in Poland, where many fear Russia is on a dangerous expansionist path. History shows the Poles have every reason to be afraid.

us.yahoo.com

 

[randomradio]

Check your facts.

Russia has amassed up to 190,000 troops on Ukraine borders, US warns

Country says Russia undertaking the ‘biggest mobilisation of troops since the second world war’

www.theguardian.com

Not all of them are inside Ukraine. Plus a lot of the firepower is still inactive. The only ones really fighting are some of the infantry and some tanks.

If you really break it done further, assuming there are 120 Russian BTGs in Ukraine, with 100 of them being infantry, then we are talking about 21700 infantry in IFV BTGs and 1400 infantry in tank BTGs, alongside some 1600 tanks and 3300 IFVs. And I'm pretty sure I'm overestimating the actual numbers. The rest of the troops are for support, they are barely fighting. Their main is to achieve their objective of a surrender without causing civilian casualties or damaging cities.

So if you think less than 25000 fighting troops outnumber the Ukranians, especially with another 16000-20000 mostly trained volunteers coming in from outside Ukraine, then you have most definitely become a sucker for propaganda.

They thought it would be like Georgia in 2008, they also overestimated their own capabilities because they're used to practicing in an area where they are uncontested in the air or on the ground.

Lol, no, they haven't underestimated Ukraine's firepower or logistics. They have underestimated their resolve. If the Russian Army behaves like one, and delivers their abilities to their fullest capabilities, like they would to London, then the cities they are seiging right now would have become like Syria in just a few days.

 

[randomradio]

Nope, you can't. Being able to fabricate at 5nm requires methodology that the Russians do not yet have. Like when they tried to copy a stealth fighter.

Er... Missed the forest for the twig. Forget it, you don't understand the implications.

The countries in the WTO decide whether people are respecting the terms, which means IPR.

Lol.

They can simply refuse business with Russia, or anyone complicit in their illegality.

Lol.

So a Russian missile hit a plant that produces engines for the Indian Navy basically.

Yep. Pretty bad news for India. We gotta see if Russia can supply parts though. Ukranian and Russian parts are largely interchangeable.

Alternatively, Ukraine can enter a JV with an Indian company to produce parts in India.

 

[A Person]

'Cause for whatever reasons, the Russians are not interested in using overwhelming firepower to deal with their enemies.

Are not? Were not. Not in the first 24 hours. Their initial plan was to redo the 1979 seizure of Kabul: come in quick, and kill the leadership before they have time to react, with help from double agents.

Since this has failed, after the third day of combat, they've changed their tack and are now bringing in artillery and MRLS so as to flatten everything.

The answer is really simple. The Russians don't want to kill Ukrainians.

Oh yes they do. Ever since it has turned out that the Ukrainians did not, in fact, want to become Russian, their aim has been to kill them to punish them for being degenerate euronazis. Haven't you listened to what the Russians say?

It's a nice propaganda piece overall. People forget that it's the Russians who are offering exit corridors, not the Ukranian Army requesting them.

Yeah, these so-called exit corridors are a key part of Russian military doctrine. It has been seen a lot of time in Syria. Surround the enemy, leave them an "exit corridor" that's on a predictable and controllable path, and then shell them when they do retreat through your little kill box.

 

[A Person]

Lol, no, they haven't underestimated Ukraine's firepower or logistics. They have underestimated their resolve. If the Russian Army behaves like one, and delivers their abilities to their fullest capabilities, like they would to London, then the cities they are seiging right now would have become like Syria in just a few days.

LOL no they wouldn't "deliver their fullest capabilities" to London, that's where all their generals have cozy properties!

Or alternatively, the "fullest capabilities" include nuclear warfare and then the Russian military, along with everything else, ceases to exist very quickly.

As for the cities they are besieging becoming like Syria, take a better look at Kharkiv. This is already the case. This is what is being done. All the fluffy talk about Slavic brotherhood is just crap for those who believe in Russian propaganda.

 

[randomradio]

LM2500 is already being Licenced manufactured by HAL. I think we have no other options till we have our own marine engine based on future turbofan whether kaveri or new turbofan based on HAL and Rolls Royce or Snecma joint efforts...

LM2500 is only being assembled.

 

[BMD]

Journalists deliberately targeted.

 

[randomradio]

Are not? Were not. Not in the first 24 hours. Their initial plan was to redo the 1979 seizure of Kabul: come in quick, and kill the leadership before they have time to react, with help from double agents.

Since this has failed, after the third day of combat, they've changed their tack and are now bringing in artillery and MRLS so as to flatten everything.

Only in the outskirts.

Oh yes they do. Ever since it has turned out that the Ukrainians did not, in fact, want to become Russian, their aim has been to kill them to punish them for being degenerate euronazis. Haven't you listened to what the Russians say?

I think their main aim is to rule by proxy and split up the Russian majority part. No one wants that level of hatred from their neighbours.

Yeah, these so-called exit corridors are a key part of Russian military doctrine. It has been seen a lot of time in Syria. Surround the enemy, leave them an "exit corridor" that's on a predictable and controllable path, and then shell them when they do retreat through your little kill box.

No, the exit corridor was for civilians. You forget that the areas they are seiging east of the river have a significant Russian population. It's not the same situation as Syria.

I am not a fan of their Slavic brotherhood propaganda as well. But I am more inclined to believe they want a Russia-friendly population alongside their main international border in the East. Plus if they plan to place troops anywhere east of the river in Ukraine on a permanent basis, they will need a friendly population surrounding them.

Based on the map, I don't think the Russians plan on leaving pro-Russia territories in Ukraine's hands anymore.

It's also possible there will be an exodus of Ukranian-speaking people across the river, which will further increase Russian hold.

Which further goes back to them not being interested in killing their "own" people.

Also this propaganda (from both sides) about pro-Russia Ukrainians receiving Russian troops with flowers won't work if the Ukrainian Army controls the "Rus-kranians" in the east. It's pretty clever of the Ukranians to hold the Rus-kranians hostage in their own cities.

PS: Your London properties quip won't work because of laws dealing with the nationalisation of 'enemy' assets. So the Russian general will go, "If I can't have my property back, they can't have it either".