Wagner Group Mutiny Against Russia | Mercenaries moving across Lipetsk towards Moscow - Live Updates

These things are never simple. No modern-day coup has ever been simple.

Now Progozhin is being moved to Belarus. So the enemy of the Russian state but the friend of Russians everywhere is now being moved closer to the Baltics? That's not odd?

Wagner numbers are estimated to be anywhere between 15000 and 25000, and presumably 5000 of the most fanatical Wagnerites participated in the "march". Even the initial numbers are not enough to take Moscow, never mind just 5000. So, as per reports, whatever number participated in the coup, that's 5000 + whatever troops are in Rostov are expected to be "banished" to Belarus, with the rest subsumed into the RAF. That's effectively half the size of the Belarus ground forces. And these guys somehow managed to get sufficiently advanced highly mobile air defences too.

So if Prigozhin acts in the Baltics, can NATO blame Putin?
Talking as if NATO has no military. They can run operations within their own country.
 
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The guy really led a march towards moscow , downed few helicopters and then returned back after he got counseled by Lukashenko . Who wld have thought .... One thing to conclude is no one should fck with the bald guy . Just give him his ammunitions and whatever he demands in time .
 
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Talking as if NATO has no military. They can run operations within their own country.

To defeat a CI, you need a minimum 10:1 ratio. So, depending on how many troops Prigozhin has, NATO will have to bring in 10 times as many troops into the Baltics. With the current strength of 5000, NATO will need 50000. If his numbers swell to 20000, then 200000 and so on.

NATO will win, but it will take many years and many lives. So this will help Russia buy time while bleeding NATO a little in the process.
 
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The guy really led a march towards moscow , downed few helicopters and then returned back after he got counseled by Lukashenko . Who wld have thought .... One thing to conclude is no one should fck with the bald guy . Just give him his ammunitions and whatever he demands in time .

Short, bald men are more sociopathic than tall good-looking men 'cause the world treats them differently, and the shorter men compensate for the difference by enhancing their sociopathic tendencies.

Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Alexander, Caesar, Takeda Shingen, Ulysses S. Grant, Erwin Rommel, all average or shorter than average height.
 
Short, bald men are more sociopathic than tall good-looking men 'cause the world treats them differently, and the shorter men compensate for the difference by enhancing their sociopathic tendencies.

Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Alexander, Caesar, Takeda Shingen, Ulysses S. Grant, Erwin Rommel, all average or shorter than average height.
Us tall good looking noble men are treated the same as the commoners. :rolleyes:
 
Now Islamists have taken over Moscow.

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These things are never simple. No modern-day coup has ever been simple.
Your alleged Maidan coup was fairly simple.
Now Progozhin is being moved to Belarus. So the enemy of the Russian state but the friend of Russians everywhere is now being moved closer to the Baltics? That's not odd?

Wagner numbers are estimated to be anywhere between 15000 and 25000, and presumably 5000 of the most fanatical Wagnerites participated in the "march". Even the initial numbers are not enough to take Moscow, never mind just 5000. So, as per reports, whatever number participated in the coup, that's 5000 + whatever troops are in Rostov are expected to be "banished" to Belarus, with the rest subsumed into the RAF. That's effectively half the size of the Belarus ground forces. And these guys somehow managed to get sufficiently advanced highly mobile air defences too.

So if Prigozhin acts in the Baltics, can NATO blame Putin?
Yes, and they will.
How exactly does your brain work?
 
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Us tall good looking noble men are treated the same as the commoners. :rolleyes:

By women, not other men. Rejections by women make short, ugly men mature faster, and this is picked up by other older adult men who give them power by giving them positions of responsibility early on. Napoleon was general at the age of 24 and emperor at 35.
 
I am worried Shoigu is gonna go and someone more competent will replace him. Wagner has performed better and not quite hooked on the memes.
 
No, it wasn't. It was in the works for a long time.
The protests didn't even start until Yanukovych decided to join the EEU (Eurasian Economic Uselessness). Everything is in your head once again.
Good luck if you think that will hold.
Of course it will hold, Russian forces in Ukraine are hardly strong right now, and Ukraine has only committed one quarter of their offensive force so far.
 
Shoigu won't go, it will weaken Putin's position, that he can't protect his own.
Shoigu might coup Putin now. Or maybe the soldiers themselves will decide they've had enough. Being asked to die endlessly in a foreign war doesn't appeal to many.
 
Good luck if you think that will hold.
If any Russian forces or Wagner attack the Baltics, NATO will remove them from the Baltics, Ukraine, Kaliningrad and Transnistria. All places they shouldn't really be anyway.