It was a blessing in disguise. Gave us a reality check in some sense. Even the information warfare has improved post 27th Feb...
Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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Absolutely true. Its beyond my understanding that if a noob can understand the advantage of making enemy jet defensive by launching solves(or at least 1) BVRAAM at Dmax simply by watching numerous engagements senerio on DCS, how can a professional pilot and a frofessional airforce worth of its salt could miss that.
Are our boys inferior to those DCS playing computer jockeys ? I mean just look at a YouTube by the name Growling sidewinder and the knowledge he has gained regarding WVR and BVR dogfights (mostly one on one) .
Don’t we have such culture among our boys? Are the flying jets just to fulfill their duty and earn salary ?
So its true that IAF hides its weakness till its *censored* is being whooped by PAF and then go for a routine ‘emergency buying spree’ to cope up with the humiliation and then after sit on their asses to repeat the cycle.
There are a lot of wake up calls in our history like 47 war and loosing 2/3 kashmir, 65 war and loosing 1/3 airforce on day 1of war, 72 and loosing opportunity to gain anything significant or even forcing defeated enemy to release our POWs , Kargil blunder and loosing men just because some one didn’t do his job .
This last year wake up call is a routine Morning Alarm to IAF and India.
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Obviously we have much further to go. Atleast our armed forces have taken in account multi-spectrum warfare or whatever Pravin von sawhwnstein keeps harping about..
sawhwnstein is the father of Einsteyne .
Only fuhrer can understand algorithm war and concept of 69th gen warfare, we lesser humans cant.
Not at all. There were simply no good options available. Astra was late along with RVV-SD. And Derby ER achieved IOC only in 2018. So it was all just bad timing. It's just that the IAF shouldn't skip over stopgap measures when available. Weapons should be of greater priority than weapons systems.
Look at our com systems now, another segment which is of higher priority than a weapons system. We have taken a massive lead over everyone else by switching over to the Rafael B-NET. Only 2 other air forces apart from Israel have it, and that's only Brazil and Colombia. All other air forces are a generation or two behind the IAF in this segment, even the USAF.
If we had responded swiftly for the PAF misadventures on 27th Feb, probably chinese could refrain from ladakh invasion.
All these years we were boasts about the chest measurements of a PM who turn down nation's wake up call for a military escalation, that too two times.
All these years we were boasts about the chest measurements of a PM who turn down nation's wake up call for a military escalation, that too two times.
Modi does not understand the NEZ Technicalities of BVR Missiles or Software Defined Radios
Or about stupid ROEs
He can.only give money
If someone messed up it is IAF HQ
They planned and Trained for an all out War ie through Gagan Shakti exercise
But a 15 minute skirmish is a new thing
Anyway we.should only.learn from.mistakes
If the weaknesses had remained unknown , then we would have suffered much more in this present situation
Gave money only for mere 36 rafale, sanctioned procurement of sfdr only after feb27.Hardened shelter for mkis were sanction few years back only. P75I still no where, artillery procurements are still dream. IA requirements for Biho is shelved. AWACS, 1 minute silence.Aerial refuelers, 2 minutes silence etc etc. These things can be rectified only by GOI.
So you want to convey that IAF has to conduct retaliation on paf without getting permission from ministry or are you telling that IAF denied retaliation orders from modi?
We still didn't learn anything, or else we would have start firing our bofors in ladakh.
Someone needs to wake up these IAF guys to acquire PHALCON Awacs asap, it's the next big gap we have to fix.
You are mixing up.two things
One is Modernisation and Force planning and Second is Feb 2019
Modernisation is done by Services HQ along with MOD Bureaucracy
It is The Bureaucrats who delay things
Secondly in this present Chinese aggression ,.it is the Lack of preparation and capabilities that we are seeing , all over again
What happened or did not happen after Feb 27 is another matter
It has been discussed before , no point in repeating everything
So you agreed that we were not prepared, even after a feb 27. Ok, understood. We will never be prepared in that case.
When Imrankhan say Hame Ghabrana nahi hein actually he is telling himself