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Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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Remember 27th of February?Bet you, during actual war PAF won't be able to fly even in Pakistani air space let alone crossing the border, while IAF will be shooting down Pak fighters from within our own borders. Apart from that IAF will be destroying any Pak ground targets with stand off ammunition and missiles again from within our own borders....
If at all IAF crosses the border entire Pak ground tracking and radars will silenced with electronic warfare as you have already seen during Balakot when PAF was completely blinded and reacted only after IAF left Pak borders.....
We are not too keen on J-10 either
Yep...
The day when PAF came 24-27 fighters with about 8 mighty F-16s and yet were not able to cross LOC (with IAF having just 2 Su30mkis in that area and 6 Mig 21s vectored by a IAF ground staff a total of 8 fighters a ratio of 1:3), PAF dropped bombs from a huge distance which felled way away from the targets, PAF F-16s firing 5 Amraams and yet the result was PAF Pilots shitting in pants and running back from the fight. PAF also lost an Uber expensive and important fighter (for Pakistan) F-16 to a 3rd generation old war horse mig21...
Grapes are sour when you can't afford them you know that..
The time for J-10 is over.Yep...
The day when PAF came 24-27 fighters with about 8 mighty F-16s and yet were not able to cross LOC (with IAF having just 2 Su30mkis in that area and 6 Mig 21s vectored by a IAF ground staff a total of 8 fighters a ratio of 1:3), PAF dropped bombs from a huge distance which felled way away from the targets, PAF F-16s firing 5 Amraams and yet the result was PAF Pilots shitting in pants and running back from the fight. PAF also lost an Uber expensive and important fighter (for Pakistan) F-16 to a 3rd generation old war horse mig21...
Grapes are sour when you can't afford them you know that..
It was a brilliant choice back in 2008 when it was added to the PAF shopping list br Musharraf.
Then came Zardari and the funds were never released.
Likewise the Chinese failed massively in building their own jet engine, which was a requirement placed by Musharraf . PAF would only buy J-10 if offered with Chinese engine.
That too didn't happen.
Now both the funds and the Chinese engines are available and J-10 is being marketed to Pakistan.
But the train has left the station. Pakistan is better off investing in Thunder Block 3 and Project Azm.
Well Abhinandan jumpsuit is still on display . What you got to show? Other than some made up stories? A crayon drawing and a missile shot at your jets by us.Bet you, during actual war PAF won't be able to fly even in Pakistani air space let alone crossing the border, while IAF will be shooting down Pak fighters from within our own borders. Apart from that IAF will be destroying any Pak ground targets with stand off ammunition and missiles again from within our own borders....
If at all IAF crosses the border entire Pak ground tracking and radars will silenced with electronic warfare as you have already seen during Balakot when PAF was completely blinded and reacted only after IAF left Pak borders.....
We ha an IAF jet wreckage and its missiles on display.
If your shooting down F-16 claims are credible, then so are our claims of shooting an SU-30
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How? Atleast we have the awac pics of the f16 vanishing. Then we have enough video of locals talking about doosra banda and circumstantial evidence of the dgispr misspeaking about the second pilot at CMH. Neither have you shown the Pilot that was claimed to be shotdown by us. While we showed both avenger 1 and 2 along with the Pilot G.C Luthra flying it. You don't have any evidence. The r73 you displayed clearly had the warhead missing which shows it had hit a target and not a sympathetic detonation. It was only later that suddenly PAF realised it's folly and suddenly the r73 existed with the warhead but incomplete serial number. At one point any body will realise there is some inconsistency to the PAF story..
Similar assumption we have made in past, i used to see such claims by indian members in a foreign defense forum( i think you know which forum i am mentioning ) on our MKI. Nothing had happened what have assumed to happen when we got opportunity.Bet you, during actual war PAF won't be able to fly even in Pakistani air space let alone crossing the border, while IAF will be shooting down Pak fighters from within our own borders. Apart from that IAF will be destroying any Pak ground targets with stand off ammunition and missiles again from within our own borders....
If at all IAF crosses the border entire Pak ground tracking and radars will silenced with electronic warfare as you have already seen during Balakot when PAF was completely blinded and reacted only after IAF left Pak borders.....
So in an actual war, fan boy theories will not work. Even mighty USAF & USNAF didn't acheive what you're dreaming against Iraqi & Afghanistan. Now imagine india pak scenario, we are not USA & Pakistan is not an Iraq.
Exactly. Feeling too powerful is detrimental.
On internet forums it's just fine and all good fun.
But the ruler of India is no different. I am still ROFL at Netender Modi, cloud cover theory and how he asked his airforce to use clouds as cover for Balakot attack.
The men in uniform know their thing. But they get told by men in dhoti about what to do and what not to.
More credible than any su mki proof you've shown. The guy could very well be talking about the mig 21 and from his tone. And he is talking about a single parachute while mki's have two pilots. And mki is far bigger plane than the F16 you could hide a f16 shootdown an mki shotdown would be easily spotted considering how huge the aircraft is.
Although the point remains the avenger 1 mki pilot GC Luthra was shown where is your doosra banda? Where is the f16B and why was he given a smaller award compared to the pilot who shotdown our mig 21. Abhinandan was given the kill for the f16 where is your guy who shotdown the mki?
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Turns out he was talking about the mig 21
About 45–50 seconds after his R-73 launch and about 7 km inside PoK, the MiG-21 was hit by an AMRAAM fired by a PAF F-16.
Abhinandan ejected from the stricken aircraft and parachuted to safety, landing 4 km away from the LoC near Horan Kotla village in PoK. He was brutally attacked
That means abhinandan not only went inside PoK he got out and probably went inside again if the individuals description is right..
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Pak went back on its F-16 promise to US. How India fixed the gaps with Rafale
Paris hasn’t just assured India that Rafale technology, specially that related to the Meteor air-to-air missile will be kept out of reach of Pakistan, but also that it will no longer upgrade the Mirage 3/5 fighters or Augusta 90 B submarines in Islamabad’s military inventory.
I don't think so. The latest J10s are the most advanced Chinese fighters having AESA Radar and carbon composites and is definitely better than even JF-17 Block-3 but also more expensive than it. So either more of a case of sour grapes or China not ready to give it's latest technology to Pakistan.
Oh you can always keep the Trash..
As for us the words of our armed forces matter. We live in a open democratic country where armed forces and government both are accountable. Every loss of equipment and Life is acknowledged unlike a quassi military dictatorship democracy Pakistan where everyone lies from armed forces to puppet PM whose hands are wrunged by military from behind to tell lies of bravado of Pak army Salwars..
I would accept the surprise element of PAF but just like Kargil Pak armed forces have habit of hitting it's own foot with grand strategies but failing to assess Indian response to it.
IAF did got surprised and fumbled in start also their hands were tied due to RoE but as soon as IAF started responding PAF Pilots were shitting bricks and were so scared they just dropped bombs from far away and missed target by miles. Regarding Su30mkis they succeeded in dodging 5 AIM120D which were again fired from maximum distance and failed to hit even a single su30mki.
After this the government changed RoE inducted latest Russian AAMRAAMs, and now we also have Rafales with meteor, Astra, Astra MK2 coming up in a year, Tel PAF to try that ANTIC now...
Yes, A co-ordinated attack by 24 aircraft couldn't cross LoC. Couldn't even target a building from your airspace properly.
Remember 26th Feb?. A pack of Mirages was inside Pakistan airspace for 12 minutes while PAF was sleeping.
Which is the whole point of Su-30 claim, isn't ? Every Pakistani knows this.
But, unlike your claim we have your PM and ISPR dude talking about doosra banda on camara
But, unlike your claim we have your PM and ISPR dude talking about doosra banda on camara
These idiots clearly admitted their own F 16 loss , when Ghafoora said
DO PILOTS
Which is the whole point of Su-30 claim, isn't ? Every Pakistani knows this.
But, unlike your claim we have your PM and ISPR dude talking about doosra banda on camara
PA is very smart when it comes to manipulating local Abduls.
Do song and dance for 27th Feb and fuel nationalism & sense of victory while sign a ceasefire agreement couple of days before to suppress any criticism of selling out "oppressed" Kashmiris to Kafirs. Timing was precise!
Where did you come up with the clouds thing? I think you are mistaking imrand khan with Narendra Modi. Yeah, that is how you spell Narendra, you illiterate *censored*.