Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16

PAF has no intention or interest to Fight inside Indian Territory

They are going to rely on Stand off PGMs and Cruise missiles

Also they will rely on PL 10 / PL 15 to foil our attacks , since Aim 120 stocks are limited

So our strategy must include targetting
Their Air Bases , first and foremost

Feb 26 and Feb 27 were like a
"Cricket match " -- first you attack , then I will attack 🤣

Next time PLAAF will also use Pakistani Airbases
We can attack their airbase only if we wre ready to go for full blown war.
 
We can attack their airbase only if we wre ready to go for full blown war.

This so called limited Skirmishes is useless concept

They can and will again send a 30 plane
Package .

And afterwards just gloat about the the
So called Swift Retort

We have to hit them hard otherwise
There is no sense in buying Rafales and making missiles
 
Are the numbers adequate against PAF? Possibly with the S400 and the upcoming IADS we'll be very much safer.

Pretty soon the MKIs will be upgraded with more modern BVR weapons. Once that happens, we will have hundreds of jets that are superior to anything PAF operates.

Why 'yes'? US stops Pak from threatening nukes but there's no respite from terrorists and ammunition? What about continuous support to local boys to pick up guns and pent stones? If US has stopped Pak's nuke deterrence, and as you claim that we have overwhelming power, what is stopping us from continuously threatening them with retaliatory action?

We are not in the business of optics. Pak used to threaten us with nukes because they needed to keep up their hyphenation with India, and the best way to do that is through nuclear sabre-rattling. This wasn't meant for the Indian govt, or even their domestic audience, it was meant for the international community at large. "Give us money because we are a nuclear power and could end up using them if you do not help us", was their threat to the West.

Words never scared us. We fought a war under the nuclear umbrella and almost went to war twice after. Even today the forces are pushing for war. And we already know that army was already prepared to invade Pakistan in 2019.

Why are we giving much higher impetus to economic strangulation rather than retaliatory strikes?

'Cause it actually works.

Although I think we will add retaliatory strikes to our response since after Balakot. But there have been no major terrorist attacks since Pulwama yet. Pak must be waiting for the Congress to come back to power before they can restart terrorist attacks on India. But this is the problem. If only the BJP can do what's needed, then we need something even the Congress can handle, and economic strangulation is the best bet.

Another advantage is economic strangulation affects everyone in Pakistan, both the rich and the poor, even the PA. Whereas retaliatory strikes, if they happen frequently, the Pakistanis will just normalise it and its shock effect will reduce. We will attack them, they will pretend to attack us, and the story will repeat.

Agreed, lobbing a few glide bombs across LoC is no big deal. But nothing much has changed - so what if IA could send drones across LoC to target PA bunkers?

Things are not adding up.

We used drones to target their bunkers using artillery. Also, we barely have any armed drones. We started operating the very first ones only in 2018, merely 10 of them, and are planning to get a few more. Gotta give it a decade before we get the numbers necessary to make such a decision. But it's not necessary, since the PAF can shoot down drones anyway. We shot down quite a few PAF drones in 2019, including large drones.

Current gen drones are meant for use against an adversary that has no air defences, like terrorists. The actual warfighting drones are still WIP.
 
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This so called limited Skirmishes is useless concept

They can and will again send a 30 plane
Package .

And afterwards just gloat about the the
So called Swift Retort

We have to hit them hard otherwise
There is no sense in buying Rafales and making missiles
When there was an opportunity, we simply didn't utilise it.
 
Pretty soon the MKIs will be upgraded with more modern BVR weapons. Once that happens, we will have hundreds of jets that are superior to anything PAF operates.
We already integrated Derby & R27 with MKI, there are picture of these missiles hanging under MKI's belly surfaces in twitter. Do we have any other missile in que, waiting for integration with MKI?
 
We already integrated Derby & R27 with MKI, there are picture of these missiles hanging under MKI's belly surfaces in twitter. Do we have any other missile in que, waiting for integration with MKI?

Astra Mk1 is complete. Mk2 will follow. Then Mk3 a few years down the line.
 
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While technically feasible, politically it's not.

Let's assume that they have set the netted radar, so that means it's double the load for IAF. You need to provide 360 ° ECM cover to the strike group? Chinese have deployed JY26 and JY8 along the LAC in netted system. Integrating it to PAF JF17 or J10s won't be a tough job as you said.

Plus a chinese post 7km north of Karakoram has a phased array Radar ( It could be that JY26 anti stealth radar) directed towards India and can be used as a feeder to PAF surveillance Radars.
 
Is there Any Chance of ASTRA on MIG 21

After all we still have 4 squadrons of Bisons left

MiG 21 will still play a Huge Role in CAP and BAR CAP in a future 2 front conflict
Its goanna retired with in a couple of years, why do you want to spend money & time on integrating Astra on mig.
 
My guess it won't be integrated.

By the Astra numbers are made, mig 21 would have been retired.
Note only that, even R77 on mig21 is itself an over doing, Do mig21 is utilising the full range of R77? AFAIK mig21 radar cannot track beyond 55-60 km range.
 
Note only that, even R77 on mig21 is itself an over doing, Do mig21 is utilising the full range of R77? AFAIK mig21 radar cannot track beyond 55-60 km range.
R77 has dataink for mid course correction / cueing?
In that case it can utilize Awac data to target.
 
Is there Any Chance of ASTRA on MIG 21

After all we still have 4 squadrons of Bisons left

MiG 21 will still play a Huge Role in CAP and BAR CAP in a future 2 front conflict

We will need to involve the Russians, never mind the fact that it will soon be out of service anyway.

In any case, the Mig-21 cannot use the full capabilities of even the R-77, never mind a missile with a longer range.
Let's assume that they have set the netted radar, so that means it's double the load for IAF. You need to provide 360 ° ECM cover to the strike group? Chinese have deployed JY26 and JY8 along the LAC in netted system. Integrating it to PAF JF17 or J10s won't be a tough job as you said.

Plus a chinese post 7km north of Karakoram has a phased array Radar ( It could be that JY26 anti stealth radar) directed towards India and can be used as a feeder to PAF surveillance Radars.

The distances involved is too much for it to work the way you have assumed. Anyway, even if it works, the threat is the same to the IAF and will be taken care of in a similar fashion.