That may be the case of those who leave to US or any other state. But not the ones who live in Bharat.
Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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That may be the case of those who leave to US or any other state. But not the ones who live in Bharat.
Just 1?? After what they did to Khalia, we should have shot down atleast 3 squadrons!!
Tbh, nobody here is questioning the strikes. Just the efficacy of it. You don't shoot millions of dollars worth of ammo across the bow and make a song and dance out of it. At the least the GoI doesn't and we can can trust it not to, irrespective of which party is in the government. The UPA decided not to retaliate for 26/11. It did receive some criticism for it but the electoral results just 6 months later proved that national security isn't too high on the agenda of the common man. What I'm trying to drive home is that GoI's tend to cop out the blame but will think 10 times before creating a blatantly false narrative.What the GoI ought to have done is take the nation into confidence by sharing evidence of such a strike. When they didn't they were painting a target on themselves for the opposition to target them. For the desi & international media to target them. One can understand reticence in sharing evidence once you've made retaliation a regular buz like the Israelis but not in the initial stages that too when you've faced the kind of outrage you did in Pulwama.
Where we lost out was on the 27th Feb. I've a feeling that apart from complacency in the IAF regarding their paper superiority courtesy Op Gaganshakti, they simply didn't think PAF would mount a raid that too in broad daylight. The GoI mustn't have helped matters by tasking our armed forces including the IAF into a defensive role post Balakote. Then again how much of this info which went into the GoI making the decision it did based on the IAF's hubris is a matter of speculation.
The Wing Co Abhinandan episode didn't help out narrative at all. To add to the twist, it's now being speculated that his radio frequency in which he was communicating with ground control was jammed. Whereas, previously, we were led to believe that he exceeded his brief. To add to the mess, we've now info that the Mi17 may have been allegedly lost to friendly fire. Ditto for the F16 kill claimed by Wing Co Abhinandan.
In the public perception, the score line reads Ind -1, Pak -1 with the latter having a definite advantage given their extremely smooth narrative of India missing the target at Balakote, PAF retaliating the next day but deliberately not striking targets just to send a message to their counterparts and the Wing Co Abhinandan episode coming as a bonus.There's no proof of our downing of the F-16 as well. Then there's the Mi 17.
That we didn't retaliate will and should be held against us. That we didn't issue our customary statement of - We' d retaliate at a time and place of our choosing should and will definitely be held against us.
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Its not just Indians, it all immigrants. Russian immigrants? same. Chinese? Same. Mexicans same.
Its a byproduct of broken immigration system of US rather than Indians being docile.
Try that in Australia or Canada, its all different. Indians keep on switching jobs faster than a 5 year old playing hop-skip-jump. And they drive very hard and very dirty bargain.
To be honest, Indians do not believe in Courts and Law-Suites as much. They find their ways elsewhere. You deny them holiday they deserve, they won't say anything on face but come the day they have another offer in hand and they won't give a damn about your business suffering or even doing any KT. Its like Modi says : Indians like to respond on the time and place of their choosing.
Worst fears coming trueMi17 crash could be due to friendly fire.
I did write something about it, rather a-la baba style
Yes and from that day itself I was feeling gloomy. You wrote not once but multiple times.I did write something about it, rather a-la baba style
I only post when things are confirmed. One odd might be a mistake. Like JF-17 downed at Multan. I took time to confirm things
A nice article explaining the air battle on 27th Feb.
The Print article by Shekhar Gupta on air battle after Balakot airstrikes peddles faulty analysis, half truths and whole lies
The Print article by Shekhar Gupta on air battle after Balakot airstrikes peddles faulty analysis, half truths and whole lies - Opindia News
@Falcon @vstol Jockey @nair
The Print article by Shekhar Gupta on air battle after Balakot airstrikes peddles faulty analysis, half truths and whole lies
The Print article by Shekhar Gupta on air battle after Balakot airstrikes peddles faulty analysis, half truths and whole lies - Opindia News
@Falcon @vstol Jockey @nair
His article is not even worth a reply. I have not reacted to it and nor will. You can't teach idiots ever.
One can expect these self goals only from ISPR . After bragging, Making Music Videos making new patches. They claim, weather it was JF-17 or F-16 was immaterial.
They did take Pakistani counter into account. First time after Uri, because of this risk ground forces were used. After Pulwama despite this risk airstrikes were ordered because all terror launch pads along the border were quickly disbanded by Pak and moved inward. I agree with the decision. It was the correct one.
well now it's on. The IAF is hardening it's stand. I hope we have some way of backing this up or force the USAF to announce an official stand.
Pak F-16 Was Shot Down, Says Air Force; Refutes US Journal Report
Pak F-16 Was Shot Down, Says Air Force; Refutes US Journal Report
If the IAF doesn't back up it's statement with evidence, it's going to be a case of their word against the IAF, wherein the burden of proof clearly rests with the IAF.
As far as the USAF goes, neither the GoI nor the IAF is in a position to demand anything of the USAF. The Pentagon will declare the status of the F-16's including the nos if the US Congress asks it to, as & when they do so.