I bet all such tapes relating to Dimran making such a statement on Balakote doesn't exist anymore in the narrative of Pakistan which brings me to something interesting a third party says about you.
Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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I bet all such tapes relating to Dimran making such a statement on Balakote doesn't exist anymore in the narrative of Pakistan which brings me to something interesting a third party says about you.
I'm surprised you didn't call him "Reham Khan's Ex" this time. You're losing your touch, my friend.
While you're improving that vocabulary of yours, do refer to me the dictionary which says that an airstrike (irrespective of its magnitude of success) by a nuclear-armed nation on its adversary nuclear-armed nation, is not a thing to be scared of. People on both sides of the border should be thankful that IAF missed.
Ah, the third party. Isn't it the same third party which encourages democracy world-wide by toppling evil governments and invading hostile countries, which coincidentally happen to have certain natural resources? Too bad that it gets a taste of its own medicine from us.
As evident, there is a learning curve to fighting the war of narratives. But I have no doubt in India's capability to make it to the top.
What an incredible new Bomb Damage Assessment technique. Hats off!
Correction : Both side should be be thankful that Pakistanis are gullible and it's deep state for building good narrative.
I stopped. When I realised it's unfair to Ejaz Khan ( her first cousin too. why are we not surprised?) .
Just like Article 370.It never happened.
Keep telling yourself that. While you're at it, I wonder why isn't every Yusuf, Younis & Yavar jumping up and down proclaiming you have the bomb.Especially certified jokers like Sheikhchilli & Fawda Chowdhary. What's the matter I ask you? Finally met someone who understands your language, speaks it better than you and is teaching you a thing or two in your language without uttering a word while the world looks the other way absolutely bored while you keep wailing like a dehati aurat. Wonder where did I hear the term before?
True. Every Nation must have it's strategic depth irrespective of the bowl one happens to carry with oneself and fond hopes in Washington. Upar waala insaan ko sab kuch de par galat faymi na de.
In this respect we've much to learn from the Pakistanis. Especially Pakistani Punjabis. Bina churan ke paadna har ek ki bas ki baat nahin.
Btw - love the squealing of Dimran and the collective meltdown your lot is having. It's cathartic, I tell you. Renews ones faith in phrases like sau sonar ka. Bas ek hi lohaar ka. Was sick and tired of seeing a self important midget punch way above it's weight & league and a giant deferring to the midget in the sad hope that the midget would gain better sense where a single well planted kick would've been enough.
Thanks Sir but what about the awards ceremony on 14 th august which suggest something different...If you have enough time to explain...
It took Pakistan army 40+ days to replant uprooted "trees" and conduct janaza of martyr "crows". I wonder why
Its called "strategic patience" jenab. Its a ghazi masterplan, you won't understand.
ro Endiya ro.
huehuehuehue.
I have heard that land has become so fertile ,that u can grow anything. That's why Im the Dim uttered the words "khaufnak"
Yes, that land now has roohani taquat. It can now grow everything, from jins and jinnahs.
The Endyians can keep singing : "Mere desh ki dharti sona ugle" but Balakot is not in Endyia.
Ab kya karoge Mudi ?
huehuehuehue.
First of all. How do we even know what ISPR showed was indeed the target? The Govt/IAF official statement is they hit what they intended to hit and I would believe them anytime over ISPR. The villager claimed he heard jets flying over the location but IAF never "flew" till their target as ou know. Also, some Indian Journos have confirmed seeing the SAR Imagery/the foreign military satellite imagery which shows the entry holes of the SPICE and has confirmed the targets were hit. ISPR lied the same regarding the 2016 surgical strikes and took journos to a spot were the said strike happened and said nothing of that sort took place but, later the same videos were released which showed the strikes indeed happen but diff locations. Likewise, this SAR image will also be released. Also, as per some of your posts, I don't think SPICE use TV guidance [Might be wrong] In a SPICE promo video
Jeez, didn't expect to strike so many nerves. Gentlemen, relax, I assure you that India is winning on every single front.
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
If you have a technical counter-argument to any of the points listed there, I'd be glad to discuss it further. Do let me know whenever that SAR imagery is released.
Sir, as per tradition and to the best of my knowledge, awards are announced on 14th August and conferred at a ceremony on the 23rd March of the following year, so I'm not sure of what ceremony you're referring to. If you're referring to the difference in awards awarded to the 3 pilots, W/C Noman Ali Khan has been awarded for a confirmed kill, whereas S/L Hasan Mahmood Siddiqui + G/C Faheem Ahmad Khan have been awarded for a claimed kill.
Sir, I encourage you to go through the following posts:
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
If you have a technical counter-argument to any of the points listed there, I'd be glad to discuss it further. Do let me know whenever that SAR imagery is released.
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Irony.....1 unconfirmed kill...3 awards 2 different countries..... Add to the confusion there are claims of Israeli involvement
I had a classic solution for this puzzle.....Enjoy this...
An Israeli F16 piloted by an Israeli pilot took part in the dog fight as an observer....Abhinandan fired his WVR missile thinking it to be a PAF F16, simultaneously PAF fired Amraam on abhinandan and hit the same F16...Israeli pilot ejected and the jew was killed by locals and send it to CMH....
How about this????? I hope to have covered all the tall claims of the stand off...I am sure Ram Gopal Varma would be interested in this script.....
@deterrent let us wait for another few years for the truth, there will be a retred gen who will spill the beans.....With Bjwa's extension our waiting period might have come down....
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Not everything in this article is discussed neither does he repeated everything, there is significant new information in this article.
One of the excuse of not finding Su30 crash site was that it crashed deep inside India, I don't know how pilots fall in Pakistan but nobody asked this. Here in this article it convulsively proves even the second crash site is in Pakistan, along with approx location confirmed not by one but 3 different video analysis and what more it matched the Radar images released by IAF.
After establishing it the 1st option of not showing it becomes magnanimity of Pakistan but we already have seen cheap shots of Mig21 so that can't be it.
2nd argument and most popular one by fanboys was that they didn't want it to escalate further by humiliating IAF and pushing it into corner. Looks logical but now when everything is over you are still awarding your pilots on 'claimed kill' and India is awarding it on 'confirmed kill of f16'. Tells you a lot about it, isn't it?
I have not even gone into argument of who killed Su30, what platform was used and what weapon was used because thats whole another thread of useless lies didn't even need to be busted.
I have already gone through your posts. That is why I replied. Especially the part where the SPICE munitions use image mapping and the location of the target.. For the SAR imagery to be released will take a while IMO unless the current SAR tech becomes obsolete I dont think they would release it.
Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman actually might have saved his Wingman by an aggressive moves – Indian Defence Research Wing
Cant say how true its.AAMRAM missed mig 21 from NEZ also.7 fired 1 hit only.kill rate 14%.If true USAF will be super angry.
Cant say how true its.AAMRAM missed mig 21 from NEZ also.7 fired 1 hit only.kill rate 14%.If true USAF will be super angry.
Sir, you know very well that bringing Israel into every discussion is a sort of national hobby of ours. Please derive only amusement from such claims.Irony.....1 unconfirmed kill...3 awards 2 different countries..... Add to the confusion there are claims of Israeli involvement
I had a classic solution for this puzzle.....Enjoy this...
An Israeli F16 piloted by an Israeli pilot took part in the dog fight as an observer....Abhinandan fired his WVR missile thinking it to be a PAF F16, simultaneously PAF fired Amraam on abhinandan and hit the same F16...Israeli pilot ejected and the jew was killed by locals and send it to CMH....
How about this????? I hope to have covered all the tall claims of the stand off...I am sure Ram Gopal Varma would be interested in this script.....
@deterrent let us wait for another few years for the truth, there will be a retred gen who will spill the beans.....With Bjwa's extension our waiting period might have come down....
Sir, do let me know when you get your hands on either a piece of F-16 wreckage or its tail number or the name of the downed pilot. IIRC, DM Nirmala Sitharaman knows the name of the said pilot. Why bother going round and round in circles of claims and counter-claims? Just ask her. Perhaps the IAF intelligence can also help you in this regard.
Regarding the awards on claimed kill, as I said before, PAF also has electronic confirmation (unreleased to public) of target blip intercepted by the AMRAAM. However it is not a confirmed kill, because no confirmation in terms of wreckage/footage exists. Perhaps @panzerdad can verify: A kill is confirmed only when there is HUD cam footage or wreckage is found afterwards. Yet W/C Abhinandan is being awarded, and so are the Mirage-2000 air-strike pilots. Tells you a lot about it, doesn't it?
Put simply, its a war of narratives.
Sir, as you correctly noted, SPICE has multiple guidance sensors. EO seeker (both autonomous and MIL), GPS and INS. In all the accounts presented by the journalists on behalf of IAF sources, it has been maintained that SPICE-2000s were launched in GPS mode instead of INS+EO on the account of poor visibility. It is not ISPR's narrative at all, in fact the GPS-systematic-targeting-error argument came forward from a third party:
India’s strike on Balakot: a very precise miss? | The Strategist
Regarding SAR imagery, I'm not sure what any SAR imagery will reveal that 50cm resolution optical imagery doesn't. Have a look:
Images - India, Pakistan Airstrike | European Space Imaging
Names and photos already posted here, though not confirmed by either govt. sources.