The easy thing to hide for IAF was the Friendly fire.....What did you see? A complete COI and people are punished.....So if there was a Su30 down, btw it was well within Indian border then we would be having a different conversation.....
Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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It's same set of arguments again and again. Pakistan is fortunate that all action happened on their side of LoC and they were able to cover it up. That's the reason why PA is hesitant to cross LoC because all their fairy tales will come crashing down.
The mere fact that India abrogated article 370 without any hesitation is testimony to the fact that how much India fears Pakistan, PAF in particular.
Now go stand for another half an hour inspite of having superior army, airforce and cheeni brothers from navy.
The mere fact that India abrogated article 370 without any hesitation is testimony to the fact that how much India fears Pakistan, PAF in particular.
Now go stand for another half an hour inspite of having superior army, airforce and cheeni brothers from navy.
Any comments @panzerdad @vstol Jockey @Falcon ?
100mtr that's how close they bombed us, will we see any retaliation or just bear it like a good boy? Doubt IAF is capable of doing much IA should take matters in its hands. IAF will be begging for Rafales or any other plane even in 2050 with inventory of 1000 Su30 against 10-12, century old F16.
This is humiliation of nation of 1.25 billion, while we were fooled to find holes in Balakot Pakistan did came close to do damage. 56 inch chickened out even after this?
100mtr that's how close they bombed us, will we see any retaliation or just bear it like a good boy? Doubt IAF is capable of doing much IA should take matters in its hands. IAF will be begging for Rafales or any other plane even in 2050 with inventory of 1000 Su30 against 10-12, century old F16.
This is humiliation of nation of 1.25 billion, while we were fooled to find holes in Balakot Pakistan did came close to do damage. 56 inch chickened out even after this?
This is the problem of a Limited Air War
IAF should be allowed to destroy PAF in a Full Scale War
But will the people accept it
A limited war does not suit the Air force
Because they can again do the same thing
That is sending a package of 30 odd planes in a limited sector ; basically is no big deal
1. Holes of diameter of around 1 m can be covered in no time and there was cloud cover that day!
2. Nothing happened but still, they cordoned off the entire area for 43days and refused to take journalists to the building reported to be hit by the Indian media.
SoWs hitting 100 m away is hardly any accuracy. They were jammed. Nothing else!
Isn’t it your responsibility to ask paf why they are lying? ImrAn khan clearly stated on his nyt article that only one jet was shot down and one pilot arrested. Then why is paf perpetuating a lie?
The Army has been fighting a limited War
For 30 years Now
So they know the Dynamics and what it entails
For the IAF , it was the First time BUT Not the last
Let them work out the Systems and Procedures , ie How will they Go about the Same Situation , in the Next Conflict
Why So much Despondency
Whether you guys believe it or Not
But I am sure IAF must have Bombed Pakistani assets and Targets after Feb 27
As a Revenge
They are NOT the types to Sit on their Hands
The Only thing that is left to be Done is a Public Humiliation of PAF by Shooting down
Several PAF planes
That day will also come
Before Feb 14 , India did not even use
155 Mm Artillery
Today we pound them mercilessly
This Conflict will only Intensify from here
Everything will be Avenged
IAF should strike them across LOC when there is some other event in the world like north korea launching weapons or Iran Saudi conflict. The other events will suppress the Indian action across LC and even if they discuss this will be just one of the event among many 
Public has no say in it, ZERO so don't put it on public. Decision makers decide and public is then compelled to support by propaganda and narrative building.
Because we were told we won, no big deal winning from an inferior enemy and as more details emerges IAF has been a complete failure on almost all fronts and even on a front where Abhinandan went on personal risk his wingman abandoned him! Brothers in arms?
Should prepare for next Air show maneuvers instead of wasting tax payers money. Let more deserving IA and Navy in need of money get it.
Oh really? Is that why 5 pilots who released weapons are awarded Vayu Sena medal?
In 2016 Surgical strikes an officer killed 4 terrorist he got Shaurya Chakra. Here IAF killed 300 terrorists or so and got Vayu Sena medal? This medal is awarded if you land your aircraft in a hostile zone safely and complete the mission.
Is not similar to PAF lie of Su30 kill where kill of Mig21 got higher award than kill of Su30? More like face savings medals on both sides since you made a claim and you have to stick to it.
Next what stalemate with Bangladesh Air Force and country is told what a great victory it was? How great learning opportunity it was?
Freedom of Speech for most Indians is the freedom to use either end of the body to blow out sound.
Counter on facts and logic, if I am wrong I will learn and apologize. Emotional card is played when you are out of logic and facts.
No one, including iaf said they dropped their bombs and ran away in haste. The grapevine was always that paf deliberately remove the fuse and dropped it a bit off deliberately to show what they can do. And then they loitered with the intention of downing a sukhoi on Pakistan soil. ImrAn khan, being a moron, thought he was sending a military message. What he ended up doing was to convince modi he will protect terrorists using paf if need be. I expected modi to send a raid to punish the base that sent the jets. He decided to punish Pakistan much worse. He just annexed all of Kashmir and now has his eyes set on POK. Your af can keep the bison. We’ll keep the territory.
Pakistan never accepts defeat.. you consider it a tactical reversal... And after some time come back again and bite us.. India is really unfortunate to have Pakistan as it's neighbour..
So no bomb fall in Indian Army installation compound or in its closest (read 100mtr or so) vicinity of it?
The bombs were live and had fuses in place. The aim was to hit Indian army formation centers. But they did not have that kind of pin point cordinates to do the strike. The miss distance of nearly 100mtrs shows the lack of accurate targeting data.
I heard bro that it was a deliberate miss. Even a moron like ik knows that if people had actually died in that action a retaliatory raid would have been launched immediately.