Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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You are free to question as much as you want to, but there are no answers to give you.
Just wait about 30 years, and you will get some information if the armed forces wish to share it.
Well they should , if we people demand they will. Some ruckus after the skirmish forced them to release the radar pics isnt it??
Dont underestimate the power of common man. We are emotional fools hence lack critical thinking be it against our own armed forces.
Yes but the point is if past so many years IAF can't decide which aircraft they want then there must be questions asked.
Technically, more or less. I have not received official training in military affairs or foreign affairs. So my opinions are worthless in these matters.
No different from you all.
What you call classified is exploited in India for the vested interest of government servants and politicians. Every thing in Home Ministry is classified if there was no accountability would you ever come to know about the affidavit filed by Chidambram.
In India there is a high requirement to implement accountability.
Aircraft crashes are a classified info lol?
Telling an aircraft crashed due to technical failure , human error , manufacture defect is a classified info or an exercise to save someone's as*
What a load BS..
Its not like anyones demanding release of Bose files or nuke secrets , citizens are sane enough to understand that. Hiding under "national security" is BS
Yes, especially if the crash relates to something that can cripple the whole fleet. Any information released is of direct benefit to the enemy.
Whose asking for specifics anyways , they can simply say technical failure or Pilot error if any but here in India 11 crashes occurred , no sign of court of inquiries getting finished , no one held responsible , no ones penalized , no ones suspensed.
They would have even tried to push Mi17 incident under the rug if not for so much public attention.
They can say this this were responsible , this was the reason but we cannot reveal further simple.
As per a report a whole squadron of aircrafts has been lost in last 4-5 years , 11 this year. And then IAF whines about Rafales and low nos
This is simply saving one's asses , be it IAF , HAL , MoD or corruption in spare procurement
So Military functions by getting away with their accountability i dont think so, anyways like you said what we say on forums(our opinion) is worthless. No one can absolve anyone by saying u know nothing about it. LoL i still hold onto my opinion. Everyone should be held accountable be it the government , armed forces or ordinary common man. Training has nothing to do with this just like "national security".
Whenever in future this country stops being emotional fool and starts believing in critical thinking without getting called anti national , we may progress faster.
You are the only member here who sometimes gives little support to Pakistan and give us a reality check.most of your concerns about your country is also genuine but at the end of the day,your country is very big and big means numerical superiority.
I am not saying that it was indian pilot.it could be anyone.i have no idea about 2nd pilot.i am not here to support false narrative.we all should believe what we have seen.we clearly saw two jets and that matters for us all.
We detected them very late.we tried to stop them but they already dropped bombs so it was useless to chase your fighter jets.your mission was strategically a milestone.credit should be given where it is due but technically,it failed.our understanding of situation is not entirely based on army statement.it is based on individual organizations and their high resolution images.yoh can't blame us if nobody believes that you hit the target.we said no hit on the spot and later it was supported by well known organizations.we don't want to mock you.you intruded deep and I think it's a milestone.
Sir why you think that we are afraid of you or your missiles? We released abhinandan after we did 27. We did our part and we didn't want it to escalate.that is simple answer.we never want war,even not today.we only wanted to reply you for 26 which we did.now we are all safe and sound.no more indian escalation anymore.only loc flare up.
Sir watch the second part of show.there is actual video recording of paf plane.sir I trust paf.we made one mistake and you made history.i give all credit to iaf which manages to intrude deep in Pakistan but our reply was also good so I have no worries.any war will begin with air Superiority and we trust paf.they love f-16 and they are flying it from 80s.they are mad for f-16.
Sir I have no idea about the second jet but I am also sure that there was second jet.i will not lie here.truth will come out sir.we are completely satisfied with paf performance.sir they are flying f-16 since 80s and they know each and every weakness of their jets.hasan also said sleep tight,paf is awake which means sir as a pakistani,I shouldn't worry.you can also hear them.they are professionals who know everything about their jets which is very important.sir I give iaf credit for balakot but another balakot looks very hard now because Pakistan is buying stuff to stop iaf.for us,air Superiority matters.you also want air superiority.i think both air forces are top air forces.
But members here said that we are unprofessional and dropped bombs in haste and ran away.this is what I heard here.
PAF knows their F-16s and IAF are a bunch of bafoons who don't know their jets. Is this what you are trying to imply? Your PAF has a history of cowardice and making false claims. Starting from that Alam guy.
Yes, this is what you did. The transcript of radio concersation is available with IAF in which your force commander is asking your jets to vacate the area asap.
I give you credit for balakot.what else can you expect from your enemy? Our air Force is not coward.i mean come on vstol,I was humiliated on PDF because I trusted you.you said akhnoor under indian control.you said no awacs on 27.you said 600 Pak army dead on 28 night.sir my own countrymen make fun of me just because of you.