Sir I haven't seen you giving us any credit.you always say we are cowards no matter what.
Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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God knows the reality.i hope we all find out real story one day.if anyone died on our or your side,it is very sad.
I had stated capture of Akhnoor. And even today you have not reoccupied it. That area is under complete Indian domination. On 27th the AWACS as per my knowledge was not on station where the battle took. It was over Punjab and moved to J&K when the battle started. I had stated that over 600 PA soldiers have been killed or wounded by the time the elections were completed in India. Please read my posts again. some 50 soldiers were killed on the night when Abhi returned to India.
Of course, they will do, they would have done the same when You post 3000 Pak Army dead immediately after kargil war. But then you know the claims of your PM about the death toll.
I gave you credit for a really swift reply and also for doing a good job of fooling our IAF who till very late did not realise your intentions while they watched your aircraft assemble in the sky. IAF response was a bit late. Had it not been for the GCIOs and the Mig-21s suddenly rising above the Kashmir valley to surprise PAF formations, the things could have been very very bad for India. Please read my posts with one of the members here. I had stated it in as many words.
Nawaz has acted many times against army.his indian relations is well known by all.it is very humiliating to see your prime minister giving false statement.nawaz didn't even allowed Musharraf too and told him to go to India.i mean you can read all the stuff.you win kargil and story ended there.
Sir akhnoor not under indian control.you still repeat the same thing.falcon said only forward posts abandoned.falcon said awacs was present and you said 600 dead in akhnoor including 28 night.falcon said not 600. Who to believe here! Everyone makes fun of me for akhnoor capture story.
provided we knew their intentions, what would have our actions? Would more MKis reach the theatre at higher altitude or the same Mig 21 interceptor response faster than actually happened?
Let anyone say anything. I stand by with what I had posted.
IAF radars watched PAF aircraft get airborne in sequence from various bases and at that time instead of calling up for more SU-30MKIs, we just watched them. Someone really goofed up that day. We had done Balakot just a day prior and such large formation getting airborne still did not ring any bells in anybody's mind?
Sir members on PDF took my screenshot and they humiliated me several times including on the thread where I demanded no ban on India members.they humiliate me each day.they even called me indian.lol
I can't do anything abt it. And Yes, we did shoot down an F-16 that day and we had lost just one aircraft and that was Mig-21 flown by Abhi.
Where is an 32 which lost in bay of Bengal? No recovery no wreckage yet.i think you should find that plane.
Bay of Bengal is huge area ,quite difficult to find , even worlds navy couldn't find MH370 , unfortunately we lost our braves. We are still trying.
We dont hide our loses , we pay full honours for our martyrs be it 450 or 3000
Armed forces give answers only to government.unfortunately there is no way that the information is passed to common citizen.yes it hurts when you lost a jet but sometimes there are technical problems.inquiries are necessary and people are held accountable but common citizen have no knowledge.
Well i know that , anyways its my opinion on my armed forces. By questioning i am not saying that they should personally tell me instead such mistakes should be punished.
PS : we are a democracy , here in India we have a right to question our armed forces they are under the civilian government.
The military has its own ways to ensure accountability.
I alraedy told you to look up the military court system.
This is getting old.
From what I understand, Akhnoor dagger was evacuated by Pakistan and India is not letting Pak forces back into the area.
The idea is to create a no man's land across the border such that PA forces cannot operate at the border.
We should not compare IA and IAF to a shit propaganda army and Air force. Go for modernization , jv , make in India program. Propaganda will find it's own place. Visible difference will be there to see.