Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16

Respect and faith isn't earned by remaining silent. Buzdil people use this statement to hide their inefficiency, ineptness which you're displaying so brazenly.

So what you're saying is you want access to military secrets. Wah! You most definitely deserve a cookie.
 
People respect armed forces to fight and protect people and its assets with dedication, courage and discipline, not for what you are trying to portray them as.
 
Here's something interesting.
Exclusive: How Indian Air Force foiled Pakistani attempt to attack Army brigade HQ on Wednesday
Immediately, four Su-30MKi fighter jets and two MiG-21 jets took off from Srinagar and Awantipora to tackle the intruders.
Please stop quoting such idiots who can't makeout their elbow from their *censored*. That lady controller had stated very clearly whom all she scrambled on that day and from whereall. I will believe her anyday than these idiots. Plus I have my own sources also.
 
So what you're saying is you want access to military secrets. Wah! You most definitely deserve a cookie.
Have you driven a military tactical weapon multi-wheeled carrier? Have you seen civilian getting blown to bits from a mile distance while you remain under protective cover? Did you ever get to penetrate ultras hide under dense forest, especially where rain happens the most in India? Have you ever smelled the blood & looked away like nothing happened and still deep down you loose your soul bits & pieces? Did you ever get the warrant to travel on trains while coming or going from home? If you haven't, you don't deserve the *censored* to make any such baseless, cowardly statements on behalf of armed force.
 
While the PAF did a Song and Dance the Other day , ostensibly to raise the morale of their "Jaahil Awam "; The Saner Elements are Talking of a Massive Preparation by IAF
For an Air Land Campaign to Liberate POK

They know what is Coming their way
 
@vstol Jockey

Sir did you read or hear the Statement of Pak
DCAS ; that SOB says that they could have Shot 9 planes but shot only 2

KUCH Bhi bakwaas karte hain
MC ; Ha*** Z**de
How can you trust an Airforce which lies thru its teeth? I am shocked at the standard of professionalism of PAF today. When I had become a fighter pilot in IN, I was told never to take PAF lightly but seeing what they have been paddling, I am really sorry for them. They were a shining example of Pak forces professionalism and now reduced to being third rate Jihaadis.
 
How can you trust an Airforce which lies thru its teeth? I am shocked at the standard of professionalism of PAF today. When I had become a fighter pilot in IN, I was told never to take PAF lightly but seeing what they have been paddling, I am really sorry for them. They were a shining example of Pak forces professionalism and now reduced to being third rate Jihaadis.

Jihadis is the Right Word

Even their speeches were punctuated by
Allah this , Allah that ...
 
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Sir How fo you look at the Worry and Fear
Expressed by Pakistanis who KNOW what are we upto

They are talking of Massive Re Armament and Training Programmes along with Foreign Consultants helping IAF for One Final Air Land Battle in POK

New and Better Stand off Weapons
Better EW packages ( The Guy says
PAF will face 10 times More Hostile EW environment )
 
@vstol Jockey

Sir How fo you look at the Worry and Fear
Expressed by Pakistanis who KNOW what are we upto

They are talking of Massive Re Armament and Training Programmes along with Foreign Consultants helping IAF for One Final Air Land Battle in POK
They are right. We are going in for massive arms purchases for a Pakistan specific war including China. It was long overdue. If we had done it in normal course, it would not have sounded so alarming. But now people know, what we need to do. I can assure you that ATAGS is already inducted and Kalyani with Tata's are capable of making two of them everyday. But right now we are making just one of them every second day. Our war reserves have hit an alltime high of last three decades. We are prepared and preparing.
 
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They are right. We are going in for massive arms purchases for a Pakistan specific war including China. It was long overdue. If we had done it in normal course, it would not have sounded so alarming. But now people know, what we need to do. I can assure you that ATAGS is already inducted and Kalyani with Tata's are capable of making two of them everyday. But right now we are making just one of them every second day. Our war reserves have hit an alltime high of last three decades. We are prepared and preparing.

Their Fear is a Massive Revamp of the IAF

Which is Coming to Bite their Head off
 
In Pakistan no one can question their forces. If anyone does so, he will never be heard of again. It is only in India where we have a vibrant democracy that people have right to use their as$$$ole for speaking.
Great, as long as we are on topic of holes Claim of jamming the bombs, then suboptimal release and then claiming faulty GPS for single event comes from which hole sir?
 
Great, as long as we are on topic of holes Claim of jamming the bombs, then suboptimal release and then claiming faulty GPS for single event comes from which hole sir?
From the one which you have between your two ears. You don't even know the kind of Jamming capability we have. We did full spectrum jamming and that included GPS jamming.
 
Not necessarily. Not to mention, stuff happened for as much as 10 minutes. At 900Kmph, 10 minutes gives you 150 Km, which is plenty of distance for other jets to cover. And during such times, jets actually go supersonic, at at least mach 1.6, so they cover distance all the more faster. There's a whole squadron of MKIs at Srinagar as well.
We must consider 10 - 15 minutes for the pilot to get into the aircraft and take off after the alert..
 
We must consider 10 - 15 minutes for the pilot to get into the aircraft and take off after the alert..
There are two kinds of alert that we maintain. ORP-2 and ORP-5 in case of hostilities or likely hostilities. In ORP-2 the aircraft are armed and pilots seated in the cockpit. The aircraft are on the runway edge ready to punch the start button and roll for take off. In case of ORP-5, The aircraft are armed and ready in the bunkers with pilots briefed and sitting ready with full flying gear in the dug outs. Our peacetime alert is four hours on Target. Abhi was on ORP-2 when he was scrambled.
 
Have you driven a military tactical weapon multi-wheeled carrier? Have you seen civilian getting blown to bits from a mile distance while you remain under protective cover? Did you ever get to penetrate ultras hide under dense forest, especially where rain happens the most in India? Have you ever smelled the blood & looked away like nothing happened and still deep down you loose your soul bits & pieces? Did you ever get the warrant to travel on trains while coming or going from home? If you haven't, you don't deserve the *censored* to make any such baseless, cowardly statements on behalf of armed force.

It's annoying to see posts where people think they know more about the military than the military itself.

Do you sit on some magic chair that levitates over all other mortals?

Give it 30 or 40 or 50 years and read all the military secrets you want after they are all declassified.
 
Please stop quoting such idiots who can't makeout their elbow from their *censored*. That lady controller had stated very clearly whom all she scrambled on that day and from whereall. I will believe her anyday than these idiots. Plus I have my own sources also.

I'm just going by the belief that everything on the internet about the strikes and the skirmish are all a mix of lies and truth. And I'm willing to wait for actual information, whenever it comes out.
 
I'm just going by the belief that everything on the internet about the strikes and the skirmish are all a mix of lies and truth. And I'm willing to wait for actual information, whenever it comes out.
Bro, You know me. And you have seen the interview of that Lady controller and the way she laughed when she was asked about the downing of Su-30MKI. Bhai, please use your brahm buddhi.
 
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I'm just going by the belief that everything on the internet about the strikes and the skirmish are all a mix of lies and truth. And I'm willing to wait for actual information, whenever it comes out.

Seeing the Trepidation and the Palpable Fear in the Enemy Camp ; we wont have to Wait long for a Decisive Outcome