Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16

Bro, You know me. And youn have seen the interview of that Lady controller and the way she laughed when she was asked about the dowing of Su-30MKI. Bhai, please use your brahm buddhi.

I had a mini agarwal in my class. That Hindu Baniya's lowest score was 96% in any test and I was sub 80s guy. She joined my tuition and I had to change tutor so that I don't look like a walkover.
 
I had a mini agarwal in my class. That Hindu Baniya's lowest score was 96% in any test and I was sub 80s guy. She joined my tuition and I had to change tutor so that I don't look like a walkover.

This IAF lady was a Minty Agarwal

You had a weak heart if you did what you say 🤣
 
Bro, You know me. And youn have seen the interview of that Lady controller and the way she laughed when she was asked about the dowing of Su-30MKI. Bhai, please use your brahm buddhi.

I don't think any MKI was shot down of course. We lost a Mig-21 in exchange for an F-16. And an Mi-17 in a separate incident.

What I'm referring to is the exact sequence of events. For example, initially there were people saying 3 F-16s crossed the LoC, then dropped their bombs in haste once they were jumped by Mig-21s. Later ACM shows up and says no F-16s crossed LoC. So after that, I stopped bothering about the internet, too much conflicting information.
 
How can you trust an Airforce which lies thru its teeth? I am shocked at the standard of professionalism of PAF today. When I had become a fighter pilot in IN, I was told never to take PAF lightly but seeing what they have been paddling, I am really sorry for them. They were a shining example of Pak forces professionalism and now reduced to being third rate Jihaadis.

They were professional when they received American training and aid. Now they have settled for Chinese, so they are getting what they paid for.
 
This IAF lady was a Minty Agarwal

You had a weak heart if you did what you say 🤣

I know. That's my way of retaining my pride (my bakistaniyat) while I imagine myself as ghazi on white horse in robe and sporting a sword. Pakistan's minty is my mini. We both got bulldozed by same creature.
 
I don't think any MKI was shot down of course. We lost a Mig-21 in exchange for an F-16. And an Mi-17 in a separate incident.

What I'm referring to is the exact sequence of events. For example, initially there were people saying 3 F-16s crossed the LoC, then dropped their bombs in haste once they were jumped by Mig-21s. Later ACM shows up and says no F-16s crossed LoC. So after that, I stopped bothering about the internet, too much conflicting information.
Bro, of the 12 F-16s, nine were mainatining BARCAP. What forced and caused these three to come close to LOC? Was it a trap to lure MKIs or something very different? Why did MKis go over the ammo dump and hold instead of engaging these guys?
Was it not to provide max jamming power in the area of max threat and save the VA/VP? Abhi flew very close to this MKI and lost contact with GCIO. Do I need to say more? PAF has released only the pic and video feed of this very target. WHY???
Why not other bombs? Socho bhai. Use your brains.
If my info is correct, they fired ober four of them on this facility and they all flew off in different places. The video feed is of the closest which came. Other bombs missed by a very very large distance. FYI, a dumb Arty shell has better accuracy. Infact even Mortars have better accuracy than this.
 
I don't think any MKI was shot down of course. We lost a Mig-21 in exchange for an F-16. And an Mi-17 in a separate incident.

What I'm referring to is the exact sequence of events. For example, initially there were people saying 3 F-16s crossed the LoC, then dropped their bombs in haste once they were jumped by Mig-21s. Later ACM shows up and says no F-16s crossed LoC. So after that, I stopped bothering about the internet, too much conflicting information.
no one here is going to believe that su 30 was shot down,it's an outright lie.the question some of the members has raised that "why IAF was surprised" .
last night you had hit balakot (whose precisionn /efficacy raises question) and still allowed enemy the very next day to fire 7 bombs and 4 amram .while you were put on defensive ,this raises questions about the decision makers in IAF .
 
I don't think any MKI was shot down of course. We lost a Mig-21 in exchange for an F-16. And an Mi-17 in a separate incident.

What I'm referring to is the exact sequence of events. For example, initially there were people saying 3 F-16s crossed the LoC, then dropped their bombs in haste once they were jumped by Mig-21s. Later ACM shows up and says no F-16s crossed LoC. So after that, I stopped bothering about the internet, too much conflicting information.

The F 16s entered the 10 Km No fly Zone

For Fighters it is like An Attacking Manuvere
 
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Bro, of the 12 F-16s, nine were mainatining BARCAP. What forced and caused these three to come close to LOC? Was it a trap to lure MKIs or something very different? Why did MKis go over the ammo dump and hold instead of engaging these guys?
Was it not to provide max jamming power in the area of max threat and save the VA/VP? Abhi flew very close to this MKI and lost contact with GCIO. Do I need to say more? PAF has released only the pic and video feed of this very target. WHY???
Why not other bombs? Socho bhai. Use your brains.
good point sir
 
no one here is going to believe that su 30 was shot down,it's an outright lie.the question some of the members has raised that "why IAF was surprised" .
last night you had hit balakot (whose precisionn /efficacy raises question) and still allowed enemy the very next day to fire 7 bombs and 4 amram .while you were put on defensive ,this raises questions about the decision makers in IAF .

The Tactical Errors happened because
We were fighting a war aftet 48 years

But Now not only the Hardware is getting a Big Boost , all Systems and Procedures have been Revamped
 
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We must consider 10 - 15 minutes for the pilot to get into the aircraft and take off after the alert..

Mig-21 - 1:30 until take off.

And during times like Balakot, you can expect some pilots to already be sitting in the cockpit or are at least right next to their planes.

For example, how long do you think it will take for these 2 MKIs at Bhatinda to take to the sky?
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It's annoying to see posts where people think they know more about the military than the military itself.

Do you sit on some magic chair that levitates over all other mortals?

Give it 30 or 40 or 50 years and read all the military secrets you want after they are all declassified.
I have no need, to wait, to analyze the national secrets and the reasons for which they have been issued to the eyes deemed necessary, I absolutely don't need to divulge anything significant, especially about the previous meeting with our "esteemed" neighbor in AP high altitude area under Dimapur corps AOA. Neither you have the means to know & capacity to understand the mass scale attack done on our cyber infrastructure, I wouldn't tell you when, where & how. Seems post is getting longer and painful to bring back memories. You have a blessed day. Thank you.
 
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Bro, of the 12 F-16s, nine were mainatining BARCAP. What forced and caused these three to come close to LOC? Was it a trap to lure MKIs or something very different? Why did MKis go over the ammo dump and hold instead of engaging these guys?
Was it not to provide max jamming power in the area of max threat and save the VA/VP? Abhi flew very close to this MKI and lost contact with GCIO. Do I need to say more? PAF has released only the pic and video feed of this very target. WHY???
Why not other bombs? Socho bhai. Use your brains.

Please elaborate , what went Wrong for The PAF which means that we Did Effectively foil their attack
 
In Pakistan no one can question their forces. If anyone does so, he will never be heard of again. It is only in India where we have a vibrant democracy that people have right to use their as$$$ole for speaking.
Well.. as you said yourself, PAF surprised us that day. If it helps the IAF top brass and the Government to get better equipment in good numbers, and to refine their doctrine and tactics, all will be well.
Between, considering that a similar scenario unfolds in the near future, and the fact that PAF standoff weapons could target our installations near the loc, from pok or Pakistani Punjab itself. How could the IAF respond ? Will the IAF AD systems and fighters fire at PAF assets across the loc? SOP applicable ? Or will it be just trying to get a lock on PAF aircrafts hoping that they don't drop their ordnance...
 
I have no need, to wait, to analyze the national secrets and the reasons for which they have been issued to the eyes deemed necessary, I absolutely don't need to divulge anything significant, especially about the previous meeting with our "esteemed" neighbor in AP high altitude area under Dimapur corps AOA. Neither you have the means to know & capacity to understand the mass scale attack done on our cyber infrastructure, I wouldn't tell you when, where & how. Seems post is getting longer and painful to bring back memories. You have a blessed day. Thank you.

Was this Event ever Reported in the Media
 
Counter on facts and logic, if I am wrong I will learn and apologize. Emotional card is played when you are out of logic and facts.
ok sir then why imran kumar khan niazi was crying of khofnak attack on balakot ? further more he said more khofnak attack is being planned . you are senior member of this forum , so it is safe to assume you dont belong to the paid award wapsi media person . pakistanis are liers and we all know this is a fact . even if i have to lie for the sake of country i will lie ( our armed forces are 100% professional , so there is no question of lying or for that matter over stating facts ) , but stand out alone pointing fingers on my own countrymen specially armed forces just for the sake of having freedom of speech of a mind which is unaware of reality . i bet you know nothing about the balakot strike . zero first hand information you have . you draw conclusions based on your your illusions and chit chat with people not involved in operation . they wont puke it , i also have many friends in the forces , but they dont reveal anything regarding the strikes airforce made in balakot . it is not necessary to give opinion on everything specially when facts are unknown . i again say , you have zero facts viz a viz operation bandar .