Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16

Sulla84 said:
@VSTOL, FALCON.. A question here..
Considering that a similar scenario unfolds in the near future, and the fact that PAF standoff weapons could target our installations near the loc, from pok or Pakistani Punjab itself. How could the IAF respond ? Will the IAF AD systems and fighters fire at PAF fighters across the loc? What about firing across IB ? SOP applicable ? Or will it be just trying to get a lock on PAF aircrafts hoping that they don't drop their ordnance...
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IAF wili do counter strikes and force PAF to go on defensive, PLUS we have ground based jamming equipment with IA which can control a very large area and do much powerful jamming compared to what an aircraft can do with its limited electrical power. In a full and all out war, we will do and employ everything that we have AND neither Pakistanis nor Chinese have a clue of them. Whatever Chinese have is of russian origin and their thinking is also slave to Russian thinking while we have moved much farther forward.
 
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randomradio said:
We got hit by a billion cyber attacks only last year, and that's only the reported ones. And even more this year.

More than half are linked to the Chinese. The Chinese even managed to hack into our satellites, which they can do in their sleep.
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Oh really? Chinese like Pakistanis are fools who show off their capabilities. If I have to believe one of my classmates now working for NIC, we maintain a log of these attacks and that gives us the capability they have. We have counters available and not used or employed but we upgrade them on daily basis. When the time comes, we can shut down not just Pakistan but also China.
100 sunaar kee, aur ek loohaar kee.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
Oh really? Chinese like Pakistanis are fools who show of their capabilities. If I have to believe one of my classmates now working for NIC, we maintain a log of these attacks and that gives us the capability they have. We have counters available and not used or employed but we upgrade them on daily basis. When the time comes, we can shut down not just Pakistan but also China.
100 sunaar kee, aur ek loohaar kee.
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Sensitive stuff is not connected to the internet anyway.

But hijacking comm hardware and control systems is always a problem.
 
randomradio said:
Sensitive stuff is not connected to the internet anyway.

But hijacking comm hardware and control systems is always a problem.
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Bro, we let them do it as it allows us to know how far they have gone. Please do not ask me why and how. We can cripple china and pakistan better than what Israelis and US did together to Iranian nuke efforts. We have trained people in hacking.
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
While the PAF did a Song and Dance the Other day , ostensibly to raise the morale of their "Jaahil Awam "; The Saner Elements are Talking of a Massive Preparation by IAF
For an Air Land Campaign to Liberate POK

They know what is Coming their way
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From where are you getting this?
 
Arsalan123 said:
We detected them very late.we tried to stop them but they already dropped bombs so it was useless to chase your fighter jets.your mission was strategically a milestone.credit should be given where it is due but technically,it failed.our understanding of situation is not entirely based on army statement.it is based on individual organizations and their high resolution images.yoh can't blame us if nobody believes that you hit the target.we said no hit on the spot and later it was supported by well known organizations.we don't want to mock you.you intruded deep and I think it's a milestone.
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Point to be understood is not that India missed the target or India intentionally missed it. The point is, Indian fighter planes crossed the IB and dropped the payload. Whether it hit the target or missed it is a secondary debate. You failed to chase India aircrafts.

Next day radars did miss the aircrafts building up in your airspace but IAF did chase you back and shot your best down.

And Indian response and biggest surprize to your drama on 27th was abrogation of article 370. This is something which you cant do to India :ROFLMAO:

in a nutshell , India lured you into this trap.
 
screambowl said:
Point to be understood is not that India missed the target or India intentionally missed it. The point is, Indian fighter planes crossed the IB and dropped the payload. Whether it hit the target or missed it is a secondary debate. You failed to chase India aircrafts.

Next day radars did miss the aircrafts building up in your airspace but IAF did chase you back and shot your best down.

And Indian response and biggest surprize to your drama on 27th was abrogation of article 370. This is something which you cant do to India :ROFLMAO:

in a nutshell , India lured you into this trap.
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Conclusion of Feb 26th and 27th Air Raids....
1. Iaf dominent on 26th
2. Paf dominant on 27th
In the Award show, Paf gives us only two evidence..
1. They did not missed the target but intentionally they did it.
2. They prove that no f16 is down.

Now, regarding f16 down...

If Government of India immediately announce that they will send to examine the evidence,it will provide us enough proof of downing a F16 but they r silent till now.If the prove which Paf presented is manufactured then why GOI did not take the opportunity to send independent annylist...But again what we do as Pakistani do..

So,what happened that day...

2 No's Aircraft shotdown...A mig21 and a two seater from Paf...May be a f16 or a mirage(may be a fatricied by amrram like mi17 via spider).A memory of Sargodha Air base proved that...
 
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Members still saying that we missed targets because it supports indian narrative.i mean entire video us available.warch it yourself.

Stephen we have Intel about iaf plans.india is our focus right now.a large scale attack might be possible but not without reaction.
 
Arsalan123 said:
I am not saying that it was indian pilot.it could be anyone.i have no idea about 2nd pilot.i am not here to support false narrative.we all should believe what we have seen.we clearly saw two jets and that matters for us all.
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Don't you think, your first narrative is to ask for the evidence, video, explannation etc etc but fail to provide yourself. Only truth for you is Gafoora, who is found to be lieing several times. You believe in B.S claims of your leaders but fails to explain the absence of accountability and reports after any instance.
 
Arsalan123 said:
Members still saying that we missed targets because it supports indian narrative.i mean entire video us available.warch it yourself.

Stephen we have Intel about iaf plans.india is our focus right now.a large scale attack might be possible but not without reaction.
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You explain, if missing the target was the aim, then why the weapon was with warhead.
 
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screambowl said:
Point to be understood is not that India missed the target or India intentionally missed it. The point is, Indian fighter planes crossed the IB and dropped the payload. Whether it hit the target or missed it is a secondary debate. You failed to chase India aircrafts.

Next day radars did miss the aircrafts building up in your airspace but IAF did chase you back and shot your best down.

And Indian response and biggest surprize to your drama on 27th was abrogation of article 370. This is something which you cant do to India :ROFLMAO:

in a nutshell , India lured you into this trap.
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Point is it was the same IK Niazi, who was trying to teach Nawaz HOW TO DEAL WITH MODI. Now he is scratching his Head.
 
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DivineHeretic said:
Why the constant, relentless whining? If you have a problem do something about it. Atleast help find a solution about it. If you can't, stand aside and let people who have hope and courage do something about it. Your whining helps no one, is useless and rather annoying.
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BlackOpsIndia said:
Any comments @panzerdad @vstol Jockey @Falcon ?

100mtr that's how close they bombed us, will we see any retaliation or just bear it like a good boy? Doubt IAF is capable of doing much IA should take matters in its hands. IAF will be begging for Rafales or any other plane even in 2050 with inventory of 1000 Su30 against 10-12, century old F16.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1173105996249481217

This is humiliation of nation of 1.25 billion, while we were fooled to find holes in Balakot Pakistan did came close to do damage. 56 inch chickened out even after this?
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Seriously desperate souls here ... looking for war. :D

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