Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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It was always expected. There was no surprise. Scramble of ORPs took place as soon as they started coalescing into a package. It was correctly analysed and hence the fact that not a single PAF fighter crossed the LC. Had your contention as above been true, they would have actually crossed the LC.
How much time does it take for a strike formation to come together after taking off from depth and then move into a particular direction in its own air space, analyse it, categorize the direction and magnitude of threat, evaluate the quantum and direction of own force needed to apply and at what time to defeat it, and in the meantime, clear your own airspace of your own civil air traffic in order to minimize your own casualties inadvertently?
Theoretically being the operative word ....
R-27s are deployed on Mig29s as of today.
Please appreciate that nobody in this world will cheer you if you go to war against Pakistan. Diplomatic pressure will be immediate and will defeat our purpose also. Hence, war like and not war.
UASF fires from Dmax. They have a game in which they allow the initial boost phase of the missile to burnout before it can be picked up by passice MAWS and after that the dual pulse and radar homing come in together. UASF F-22s fire off by 130kms using AMRAAM-5D. The initial boost phase phase generates a temprature of over 1200*F which can be picked up by modern sensors from as far away as 50NM.
That will be actually good, you can tell us(again) how another 27th Feb is the best thing ever happened to India and IAF like you are doing about last one.
Okay sir please read the article first before making any conclusions.. his first points was literally about PAF superior bvr missiles first shoot capability with better kinematic range.. they fired there first missile at close to 60km and last missile close to 40km. They had recording of our pilot's. Moreover my brother who is also a fighter pilot literally told me that they have better missiles than us . We could have bought the missiles that we bought in 2019 after balakot . There were a lot of time since 2008.I know quite well how Israeli weapons are integrated on mirgae (jugaad) without OEM because it was cheap. And after balakot IAF decided - it's best to consider OEM certification.. That's why one spice failed. Crystal maze are another story so just leave them out.
Really how can mica be on par with aim120. There weight difference is huge. You might mean there NEZ is similar but not overall range. R77 doesn't work reliably if the target is more than 35-40km away . Lastly Pakistani even have su30 pilots recording .. salute to the courage of that sikh guy who wasn't ready to give up . A lone su30 facing many f16 and it's missiles are not giving him firing solution.. I am really amazed how well Pakistan spend there defence budget compared to India. Lastly I haven't bring nuclear weapons or anything like that. My point is that they were getting better weapons than you and you were sleeping for years.
Sir there is No need to be so despondent
What about the New Russian Missiles that we bought Recently
But One thing you might have noticed is that after Feb 27 , they did not come close
To LOC again
And there were intense CAPs and Large scale exercises all along the border for several months
Even Pakistanis talked about it on Twitter
You should ask your brother about Post 27 Feb Revenge
There is no need to be ostrich I guess.
There is embarrassing similarity between IAF and PA. Both fail almost humiliatingly whenever trusted to deliver, botch up most missions and if not for individual acts of small small victories they would be complete embarrassment (PA already achieved that feat btw, IAF is toiling hard to catch-up).
Both have almost similar kind of leadership, more interested in blame games, domestic politics than defence and now both have their own full fledged production houses that feed propaganda instead of actual footage (a norm worldwide). Maybe that's the reason both have almost similar set of fanboys that gulp down everything thrown at them.
Every nation release HD Footage of enemy assets blowing up, here 1.25 billion people are told if we show you, enemy will know our 'capabilities' and that line is than used by most reputed, educated, informed ones to fool masses. They seriously think people are so stupid that they will believe anything they say because it's about 'patriotism'?.
It will not make a difference we bought r27 and r77sd. . The outcome will most likely be the same if we are outnumbered again. R27 have good range but it's sensor aren't good.. on the other hand r77sd will match them but don't think PAF hasn't upgraded anything .. they got newer Chinese missiles on there jf17 , if they had operational data link like they have with link16 , even jf17 block 3 will give IAF hard time. This time they were dud because they were older variant but that's will not be the cases with jf17 block 3 with aesa radar.. they are also upgrading f16 with the help of Turkey and other nations.
Hello. We could evict.them.from Kargil
ONLY because of IAF
Otherwise it was impossible
How do you propose to record the Bombs striking the Target
IAF has said they.will.use Crystal Maze next time
And your "Favourite " PAF wasted 6 Amraams , 11 H 4 and also lost an F 16 to an MIG 21
IAF has accepted its mistakes and shortcomings but the ONLY WAY these shortcomings are known is through Real.War , not Red Flag exercises
Who was sleeping from 2004 till 2014
Who refused to.respond after 26 / 11
If IAF was so useless then PAF and PLAAF would have Jointly attacked us after Feb 27
All this PAF upgrades are known to me
Having read.it in PDF
The thing is that War Is NOT A cricket match
First You BAT , then I will BAT
As I said.earlier they.can.send a
30 plane Package Everyday.
What matters is.how.you Respond
Response means Retaliation
Scrambling your fighters is Not a response ,it.is a.reaction
War is about.seizing the Initiative
Hit First ,.Hit Hard
Sir you are the only person who speaks with some common sense.. even turkey released better proof than IAF
That's pretty much a done deal. So I don't know how it will play a part after Trump's reelection.
IAF is interested in 100 Predator Cs. This may come up during the next term.
Great, then I hope this is eventually implemented.
I will be honest with you, IAF has lost the edge that they had during Kargil and if Pakistan had aim120 than that war would have been whole another story. IAF advantage only comes when there is full fledge war , which is not going to happen because Pakistan have nuclear weapons. Bottom line .. so until someone come up with a good laser to shoot down missiles in seconds at more than 100km, there is nothing going to happen.All this PAF upgrades are known to me
Having read.it in PDF
The thing is that War Is NOT A cricket match
First You BAT , then I will BAT
As I said.earlier they.can.send a
30 plane Package Everyday.
What matters is.how.you Respond
Response means Retaliation
Scrambling your fighters is Not a response ,it.is a.reaction
War is about.seizing the Initiative
Hit First ,.Hit Hard
Do you really think Every time a bomb is released , it hits the Target
Even US which bombs countries without
Air defences or Fighter planes must be missing their targets
Russia is still struggling in Syria after so many years
All Stand off weapons do have CEP
Only Dumb bombs can be accurately dropped just over the target
Then that's more wrong info peddled by veterans.
On both actually.
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